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Posted: 9/20/2022 9:59:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AR-1904]
The three episode premier or Andor airs tomorrow 9/21 (or tonight at midnight Pacific time for the hardcore nerds
 ). This thread is for discussing the show and, unavoidably, general bitching about the direction Disney is taking the franchise. Based on the trailers and how awesome Rogue One is, I have high hopes for this series. It can't be worse than Book of Boba Fett, right? ....Right? Like an abused spouse, I’m ready to be hurt again.  Please keep the discussion to aired episodes. If spoilers get leaked about upcoming episodes, keep that shit out of here. Likewise, if you want to talk about how people shouldn't be giving money to Disney, feel free to start your own topic about that. I don't pay for Disney plus and frankly I'm tired of hearing about it. episode 1- 39 minutes episode 2- 35 minutes episode 3- 40 minutes episode 4- 47 minutes  Andor | Official Trailer | Disney+ |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:16:26 AM EDT
[#1]
I'll watch it. Hopefully they don't have him struggle with his conscience and just wreck people without thought. How Mando was initially. But like the OP, abused spouse syndrome is in full effect.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:21:14 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Ill be watching I paid 1.99 for a month for disney might as well check it out |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:31:24 AM EDT
[#3]
Not watching. I will wait for you guys to review it. If it sounds good I might watch it. I am sure KK will fuck it up like everything else she touches.
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USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:38:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Furloaf: it'll have to be better than that POS Kenobi was Why was obi wan kenobi bad? |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:33:07 AM EDT
[#5]
Looking forward to it. Buddy of mine who’s a tougher critic than I am watched the first ep and said it was great.
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:34:38 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tct1000: pass. waiting for the big headed flute playing alien @ Jaba's bar, back story 
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:38:18 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rhinodog: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rhinodog: Originally Posted By tct1000: pass. waiting for the big headed flute playing alien @ Jaba's bar, back story HE HAS A NAME YOU FILTHY CASUALS: Figrin D’an. I’m waiting for the Nien Nunb 8 part backstory.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 9:10:24 AM EDT
[#8]
Firey Figrin Dan!
Here, I’ll provide Disney a free idea: a comedy series based on the mishaps and shenanigans of Figrin Dan as he struggles between gigs across the galaxy. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 9:13:36 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TooBigToFail: Oh god I must have watched that 100 times as a kid. If I were to watch it again today my brain may explode. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TooBigToFail: Originally Posted By 44rdv4rk: Id rather watch Endor https://militarygogglebox.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/star-wars-ewoks-the-battle-for-endor-1985-film-action-adventure-science-fiction-3.jpg Oh god I must have watched that 100 times as a kid. If I were to watch it again today my brain may explode. I tried watching that with my daughter a few months ago because I loved it as a kid and she looked at me and hoped right out. It did not she well I couldn’t watch it. I am however stoked for Andor and can’t wait to get home to watch it. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 9:17:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2022 9:29:31 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C-ham: I'll watch it. Hopefully they don't have him struggle with his conscience and just wreck people without thought. How Mando was initially. But like the OP, abused spouse syndrome is in full effect. You won’t have to worry about that, based on the first five minutes haha |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 9:48:58 AM EDT
[#12]
The rumor is its extremely woke. All the men are bumbling idiots who walk around with the same dumb look they had Kenobi wear while the women plot and battle it out. Kathleen Kennedy had her labia all over this.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:01:35 AM EDT
[#13]
Really liked Rouge One and really want to see this but I also don't want to support Disney until they fix their woke agenda. I'll wait for the final reviews and if it isn't a woke I might watch it on someone else's account.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:04:32 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: The rumor is its extremely woke. All the men are bumbling idiots who walk around with the same dumb look they had Kenobi wear while the women plot and battle it out. Kathleen Kennedy had her labia all over this. Not as of the first couple episodes. I’d say it’s more ‘adult oriented’ in that it’s slower and more deliberate. My kids love watching Star Wars stuff but I’m guessing they’ll be bored with this one, at least early on |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:13:33 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Not as of the first couple episodes. I’d say it’s more ‘adult oriented’ in that it’s slower and more deliberate. My kids love watching Star Wars stuff but I’m guessing they’ll be bored with this one, at least early on That's good to know. perhaps they will do it right this time. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:14:36 AM EDT
[#16]
And we just got our first implied Star Wars sex scene
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:19:44 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: And we just got our first implied Star Wars sex scene It’s PG rated right? My daughter wants to watch this but she won’t be able to if it’s too adult. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:19:52 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GutWrench: The rumor is its extremely woke. All the men are bumbling idiots who walk around with the same dumb look they had Kenobi wear while the women plot and battle it out. Kathleen Kennedy had her labia all over this. Well, they were talking about how its a "Trumpian world" that they were building in the show, so probably. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:21:26 AM EDT
[#19]
Can you purchase them without signing up for Disney?
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:21:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RattleCanAR]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTallest: It’s PG rated right? My daughter wants to watch this but she won’t be able to if it’s too adult. Disney implemented ratings filters into the service so they can have adult content. If it is PG then maybe it won’t be a full on child’s program. There is hope. Rebellions are built on hope. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:25:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pair_of_ACES]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTallest: It’s PG rated right? My daughter wants to watch this but she won’t be able to if it’s too adult. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTallest: Originally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: And we just got our first implied Star Wars sex scene It’s PG rated right? My daughter wants to watch this but she won’t be able to if it’s too adult. I think all Star Wars content at this point is essentially pg13. I know Mando and Fett were, as is Rogue One on which this is based/connected. Other than one ‘crap’ and one ‘bastard’ plus some mild kissing and what adults would catch on as an implied sex scene, there’s nothing. But I know my kids will find it boring so far. The dialogue is well written and it’s a good story. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:31:24 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: I think all Star Wars content at this point is essentially pg13. I know Mando and Fett were, as is Rogue One on which this is based/connected. Other than one ‘crap’ and one ‘bastard’ plus some mild kissing and what adults would catch on as an implied sex scene, there’s nothing. But I know my kids will find it boring so far. The dialogue is well written and it’s a good story. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Originally Posted By TheTallest: Originally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: And we just got our first implied Star Wars sex scene It’s PG rated right? My daughter wants to watch this but she won’t be able to if it’s too adult. I think all Star Wars content at this point is essentially pg13. I know Mando and Fett were, as is Rogue One on which this is based/connected. Other than one ‘crap’ and one ‘bastard’ plus some mild kissing and what adults would catch on as an implied sex scene, there’s nothing. But I know my kids will find it boring so far. The dialogue is well written and it’s a good story. Then my daughter will probably lose interest in it like she did with BOBF. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 10:36:25 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By skid2041: Can you purchase them without signing up for Disney? Yeah. OP said something how he’s not paying for Disney + but is still watching it Other that going to someone else’s house, how is it possible to watch without paying the Disney subscription? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:03:43 AM EDT
[#24]
And we’ve got ‘shit’ used for the first time in Star Wars
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:04:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Pair_of_ACES]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTallest: Then my daughter will probably lose interest in it like she did with BOBF. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTallest: Originally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: Originally Posted By TheTallest: Originally Posted By Pair_of_ACES: And we just got our first implied Star Wars sex scene It’s PG rated right? My daughter wants to watch this but she won’t be able to if it’s too adult. I think all Star Wars content at this point is essentially pg13. I know Mando and Fett were, as is Rogue One on which this is based/connected. Other than one ‘crap’ and one ‘bastard’ plus some mild kissing and what adults would catch on as an implied sex scene, there’s nothing. But I know my kids will find it boring so far. The dialogue is well written and it’s a good story. Then my daughter will probably lose interest in it like she did with BOBF. Yes I would call this much slower than Boba Fett, though by Ep 3 it picks up pretty good |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:07:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:08:51 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Yeah. OP said something how he’s not paying for Disney + but is still watching it Other that going to someone else’s house, how is it possible to watch without paying the Disney subscription? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: Originally Posted By skid2041: Can you purchase them without signing up for Disney? Yeah. OP said something how he’s not paying for Disney + but is still watching it Other that going to someone else’s house, how is it possible to watch without paying the Disney subscription?  Attached File |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:08:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: sbhaven]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: ... how is it possible to watch without paying the Disney subscription? There are various websites and methods out there that one can find/download/stream the show without paying for it. However discussing those sites here may be verboten per the CoC since they're possible illegal streaming/torrent/upload sites. For those who have watched the first episode was their subtitles for the few flashback parts where the tribe was speaking a "foreign language"? The closed captioning I saw in the few minutes of the show I was able to catch didn't have any English language on screen during that flash back tribe scene. I couldn't understand what they were saying during that particular scene. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:38:17 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sbhaven: There are various websites and methods out there that one can find/download/stream the show without paying for it. However discussing those sites here may be verboten per the CoC since they're possible illegal streaming/torrent/upload sites. For those who have watched the first episode was their subtitles for the few flashback parts where the tribe was speaking a "foreign language"? The closed captioning I saw in the few minutes of the show I was able to catch didn't have any English language on screen during that flash back tribe scene. I couldn't understand what they were saying during that particular scene. Even in the subtitles it just says ‘speaking ____’ - you didn’t miss anything, it’s just context clues. All in all the first three episodes were relatively slow, but if there are 12 in total then I prefer it that way. Younger viewers (like my 5 and 7 year olds) will likely find it slow and boring if they’re expecting a Mando or even Fett-esque show. Some interesting characters so far - I like the overzealous cop and the scrapyard worker guy. Interesting in that Star Wars has now given us 1) it’s first implied sex scene 2) it’s first use of ‘shit’ on screen, and 3) what looked like it might have been the first instance of reloading/chambering a blaster. As an adult who prefers more story and less action, I’m intrigued. I like the grungy dark alley part of Star Wars, not the swords and samurai crap, so I’m hoping this one will be pretty good.. Oh and no ‘woke’ anything. There are male and female characters, some strong some weak, white and minority characters, again some strong some weak. Ignore anyone who argues otherwise, they’re just looking for something to bitch about |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:42:59 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Furloaf: it'll have to be better than that POS Kenobi was no... no it doesn't. it could be worse. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:48:35 AM EDT
[#31]
Im thinking this will be the show that Solo should have been.
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:49:02 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lucifer_Sam: Well, they were talking about how its a "Trumpian world" that they were building in the show, so probably. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lucifer_Sam: Originally Posted By GutWrench: The rumor is its extremely woke. All the men are bumbling idiots who walk around with the same dumb look they had Kenobi wear while the women plot and battle it out. Kathleen Kennedy had her labia all over this. Well, they were talking about how its a "Trumpian world" that they were building in the show, so probably. One actress said that, that was her view. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 11:52:02 AM EDT
[#33]
Just finished episode 3, it’s a bit slow but I have no real complaints. Looking forward to seeing the rest.
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Posted: 9/21/2022 12:19:06 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-1904: Is that Kubiak from Parker Lewis Can’t Lose? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-1904: Originally Posted By Sturmgewehr-58: Originally Posted By cwm1150: Not thrilled with that actor. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/81535/203760e512316963e70b78e2ac90d4cf-2533756.jpg Is that Kubiak from Parker Lewis Can’t Lose? Button from Open Range. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 12:21:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: One actress said that, that was her view. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: Originally Posted By Lucifer_Sam: Originally Posted By GutWrench: The rumor is its extremely woke. All the men are bumbling idiots who walk around with the same dumb look they had Kenobi wear while the women plot and battle it out. Kathleen Kennedy had her labia all over this. Well, they were talking about how its a "Trumpian world" that they were building in the show, so probably. One actress said that, that was her view. I’m not seeing it so far. In fact the idea of the small, armed resistance standing up to massive government abuse and overreach is something most of us here, I’d think, would enjoy watching on-screen |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 12:27:36 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: Just finished episode 3, it’s a bit slow but I have no real complaints. Looking forward to seeing the rest. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 12:32:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cwm1150: Not thrilled with that actor. Looks like the same guy in the Narcos series on Netflix. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 2:39:16 PM EDT
[#38]
Only saw the first three episodes, but damn...this is what I've missed for the last few decades.
Star Wars that isn't full of callbacks. References. Shitty humor. Childish plots. Black and white characters. We have actual plot. Endless shades of grey. No stupid ominous foreshadowing, and no deus ex machina. It actually feels like there's a hint of authenticity, of the minor petty bullshit that starts history rolling. Random chance, built up grievances, stupid decisions..and then the boulder is off and running downhill. This is by far the best Star Wars since Rogue One, period. Mandalorian at its absolute best comes close, but this feels like an actual story. Written by adults, for adults. I can't help but suspect that Kennedy had nothing to do with the production, except an agreement to stick her name on it in exchange for fucking right off into the distance. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 3:05:52 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WesJanson: Only saw the first three episodes, but damn...this is what I've missed for the last few decades. Star Wars that isn't full of callbacks. References. Shitty humor. Childish plots. Black and white characters. We have actual plot. Endless shades of grey. No stupid ominous foreshadowing, and no deus ex machina. It actually feels like there's a hint of authenticity, of the minor petty bullshit that starts history rolling. Random chance, built up grievances, stupid decisions..and then the boulder is off and running downhill. This is by far the best Star Wars since Rogue One, period. Mandalorian at its absolute best comes close, but this feels like an actual story. Written by adults, for adults. I can't help but suspect that Kennedy had nothing to do with the production, except an agreement to stick her name on it in exchange for fucking right off into the distance. That’s a great synopsis. I just finished watching the episodes. Really enjoying it so far. Not super kid friendly- the first episode starts with a straight up murder outside a whore house. My boys are 10 and 12 and I’d say it’s just baaarely appropriate for them. The “sex scene” is just some kissing beforehand and a woman waking up in bed the next morning. I think Anakin and Padme rolling around an Naboo in Ep. 2 was more explicit.  So, yeah, great start to what is hopefully a great series. “Slow burn” is a good way to describe it. Nothing remotely ‘woke’. Looking forward to more. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 3:09:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AR-1904]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The-White-Dog: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/129831/degf2mx-696feabf-74df-4aa2-952f-962bdc6f-2534041.JPG The only streaming service I actually pay for is Netflix. And that goes back to when I was getting DVDs in the mail. I have disney, Hulu, hbo, prime, etc. thanks to friends and family willing to share their passwords. If you don’t have friends like that, there’s always life on the high seas. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 3:31:51 PM EDT
[#41]
First episode:
-CGI was meh. Everything else production wise is 10x the other shows. -Starts off in a brothel. So long "Star Wars is for kids." -No kid is going to connect with this. It's a 13+ show even if just for the pacing. It's slooow. -It feels too removed from all of the other shows/movies. The tech and settings feel very different. Even more Blade Runner than Rogue One was. -It does capture that 70's look of the original in many of the city shots. The set design is so much better than TBOBF it's night and day. -The acting is obviously a big step up from the other SW D+ shows so far. Really highlights how poor casting has been. -So far it's a police procedural? -Very little story so far, just introing characters. Looks like another story than should be told in two hours instead of 6. We'll see. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:08:11 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texas_mustang_01: First episode: -CGI was meh. Everything else production wise is 10x the other shows. -Starts off in a brothel. So long "Star Wars is for kids." -No kid is going to connect with this. It's a 13+ show even if just for the pacing. It's slooow. -It feels too removed from all of the other shows/movies. The tech and settings feel very different. Even more Blade Runner than Rogue One was. -It does capture that 70's look of the original in many of the city shots. The set design is so much better than TBOBF it's night and day. -The acting is obviously a big step up from the other SW D+ shows so far. Really highlights how poor casting has been. -So far it's a police procedural? -Very little story so far, just introing characters. Looks like another story than should be told in two hours instead of 6. We'll see. OWK had some cities that were very much Blade Runner like. It could be a tie in and repurposing of sets. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:08:27 PM EDT
[#43]
Since they dropped the first 3 at nce, they shoulda just made it 1.5 hours, since it's basically the origin story for andor.
Ep 4 will probably be where the empire intrigue starts. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:18:42 PM EDT
[#44]
Big thumbs up from me.
Much less "hokey" than the other series so far. Has that raw Star Wars universe feel like we got in Rogue One. Character development is FAR better than we've seen in other series. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:23:50 PM EDT
[#45]
I like it so far
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:31:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/21/2022 4:35:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DH243]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR0023: Rewatched Rogue One last week to prep. Cast looks like this could be good. Hoping it's darker and more serious than the other recent SW spin offs. Umm, he died in rogue one. You should watch series, then rogue one, lol. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:45:44 PM EDT
[#48]
So it looks like Andor and The Mandalorian are going to carry Star Wars.
Just finished watching Andor and holy hell it's good. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 6:59:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RattleCanAR]
[#49]
Top shelf adult Star Wars. Gritty describes it best.
Solid character development. Disney don’t fuck this up. |
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Posted: 9/21/2022 7:12:06 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: Top shelf adult Star Wars. Gritty describes it best. Solid character development. Disney don't fuck this up.  |
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