should hand held cell phones banned while driving

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Posted: 5/27/2001 8:25:11 PM EDT

I do not know about the rest of you but just since fri. mourning I have been almost hit three times and once had to go off the road to keep from being hit and witnessed another almost accident where another car just changed lanes and almost caused a accident and guess what all four incidents they had a cell phone stuck to their ear. they also were all women. so should the use of hand held phones be banned while driving or just the use by women while driving? man its getting nuts out there lately.

Posted: 5/27/2001 8:35:26 PM EDT

[#1]

Yes! they are some brain dead MFers! Same goes for those hair combing lipstick putting on (add talking on cell phone)women! ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Posted: 5/27/2001 8:36:48 PM EDT

[#2]

Might as well make it against the law to discuss religion or politics with anyone else in the car. Or make it illegal to drive without having at least eight hours sleep beforehand.

Probably shouldn't even let goodlooking chicks drive or ride in cars. They are certainly a distraction to male drivers.

Are they gonna outlaw CBs in tractor-trailers?

Just remember what you're doing and you'll be jes' fine.

Eric The Hun[>]:)]

Posted: 5/27/2001 8:36:52 PM EDT

[#3]

Yes.
I drive for a living, and most of the time I witness erratic driving or inattention to the traffic, it is by other "drivers" being on the cell-phone.
The other times, the drivers are Asian...(I know, it's a bad joke).

Posted: 5/27/2001 8:44:24 PM EDT

[#4]

People almost nail me 3-4 times a week here in CA. These people are morons.

radioman

Posted: 5/27/2001 9:03:19 PM EDT

[#5]

That has more to do with living in CA, doesn't it?

Posted: 5/27/2001 9:04:09 PM EDT

[#6]

Some people can't drive with or without a distraction. Some can drive fine with several distractions. Why don't we punish everone for the actions of a few? Sound familiar?

Posted: 5/27/2001 9:06:23 PM EDT

[#7]

Definitely BAN them!

Posted: 5/27/2001 9:10:05 PM EDT

[#8]

You know, I use a cell phone and drive at the same time every day. I have no problem with it (I can pay attention while I drive. I can also walk and chew gum at the same time) I even drive one of those nasty, gas-guzzling Suburbans! I shouldn't be punished just because some jackass can't drive and talk on his (probably her) phone at the same time. I see my share of idiots that can't drive and talk (mostly women) but I just avoid them. I'll continue to yak and drive, thank you.

-Gloftoe

Posted: 5/27/2001 9:17:31 PM EDT

[#9]

A recent American Automobile Association (AAA) study found that cell phones are the cause of only 1.5 percent of the 284,000 distraction-related accidents each year. The other causes?

Eating and drinking: 1.7 percent
Other occupants in the vehicle: 10.8 percent
Adjusting radio, cassette or CD: 11.4 percent (adjusting the air conditioner or heater was an additional 2.8 percent)

For the math deficient out there, that means hamburgers are slightly more hazardous than wireless phones, radios are 7.6 times the distraction and conversing people are 7.2 times the hazard.

Most frightening of all is that 15 percent of the distraction-related accidents were caused because the driver just wasn't paying attention. That's 10 times as many accidents as were caused by cell phones, and there's not a thing we can ban to fix it. Unless you want to ban thinking and driving.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Posted: 5/27/2001 9:22:00 PM EDT

[#10]

Good post, madkiwi.

I talk on the cell-phone in my car, usually just on 2 hour drives between home and school. It doesn't inhibit my ability to operate the vehicle any less - usually just drive with 1 hand anyway, and I am always able to put up a 2nd if need be. I check my mirrors, use my signals, watch my speed, check blind spots, and all of the other "good driver checklists" on and off the phone.

And yes, if you ban car phones of any kind, you must ban ANY activity external of operating a motor vehicle; this includes eating, drinking, operating the comfort/radio controls of the interior, applying makeup, fixing one's hair, and any other thing anybody may dream up that doesn't involve 2 hands on the wheel and eyes on the road at one time. Final outcome: cell phone ban becomes frivolous when new stimuli like above come into play.

Jewbroni~

Posted: 5/27/2001 9:24:37 PM EDT

[#11]

I have almost been nailed by a couple people on cell phones, both men and women. I use a hands free unit and it works great. why cant more people discover this little accessories , I mean dam, they dont cost that much and are great. I have been using hands free for over a year and think they should be sold with the phone.

Now i have also been almost taken out by people with burgers in there mouth also, and also by some that just couldnt drive...

L2S

Posted: 5/27/2001 9:45:41 PM EDT

[#12]

The stats are funny. Every single day I am almost hit by someone gabbing on the phone but never have a problem with someone eating or radio adjusting. Sure enough 9 out of 10 times it is by a cell phone user.

Just because you can drink and drive and someone else can't doesn't mean they should let everyone do it. If you need to talk on the fukin phone that bad pull over or get off the road. I am sick of almost getting hit by some women drive a 6000 pound death sled while trading gosip to her soccer mom friends. Get rid of them. I don't remember anything in the constitution about phones.

Posted: 5/27/2001 9:57:08 PM EDT

[#13]

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Just because you can drink and drive and someone else can't doesn't mean they should let everyone do it. If you need to talk on the fukin phone that bad pull over or get off the road. I am sick of almost getting hit by some women drive a 6000 pound death sled while trading gosip to her soccer mom friends. Get rid of them. I don't remember anything in the constitution about phones.

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I don't remember anything in the Constitution (capitalize it, it deserves the respect) about a lot of things. I run computer repair calls for a living. There are times that I _have_ to take a phone call. There are lots of times that happens. So I'm in the fast lane, and I should dart over to take a phone call?! Man, that's safe. F#ck all this pre-emptive strike crap, infringing on my life.

-Gloftoe

Posted: 5/27/2001 10:05:37 PM EDT

[#14]

No, bans solve nothing. Anyone here should know that. Simply make anyone who causes a fatal accident due to the negligent use of a cell phone guilty of manslaughter, same as DUI manslaughter.

Posted: 5/27/2001 10:27:35 PM EDT

[#15]

Good idea, RikWriter. I'll second that!

Posted: 5/27/2001 10:46:57 PM EDT

[#16]

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No, bans solve nothing. Anyone here should know that. Simply make anyone who causes a fatal accident due to the negligent use of a cell phone guilty of manslaughter, same as DUI manslaughter.

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See how easy it is for people to run to and cry for mommy government to solve all of their "problems"?

Posted: 5/27/2001 10:52:24 PM EDT

[#17]

Back in '94, my car was totalled after getting rear ended by a limo driver using a car phone. I was not injured, but my wife lost the child she was carrying from the force of the blow (around 40+mph) at impact. The driver got off with just a higher insurance rate.

Posted: 5/27/2001 11:01:07 PM EDT

[#18]

Next thing you know, they will be banning Lewinski's. Jesus man, what the hell is the difference between talking to someone on the phone or someone in your vehicle? Isn't that why it was invented in the first place? So you don't miss calls when your out and about?

Posted: 5/27/2001 11:10:53 PM EDT

[#19]

like guns, it's just another scapegoat. I use mine every now and then with no trouble. Yet I see others, most often in luxury cars talking on cell phones and totally ignoring the task of driving. If you are intending to have a long meeting with the special client, why not try face to face... if your running late and want to call the wife and keep her from worrying make it a quick call. Most of all, if your a moron who is so unable to do 2 things at once, stick to the task at hand of driving.

Posted: 5/28/2001 1:37:55 AM EDT

[#20]

Never noticed that problem in the 60s when CBs were all the rage...then again, the speaker was on the radio and you didnt have to dial. Fact is, some peeps shouldnt be on the road in the first place...cell phone or not!

Posted: 5/28/2001 2:21:53 AM EDT

[#21]

So what's the eXcuse for the times I've been hit by people not being on the cell phone?

Another inatimate object being blamed for societies ill's.

BTW, I still see people without their seatbelts. "F" them legislators!

Some cities even talking about banning them on the train & bus.

WTF is a train?

A damm Christian Science Reading Room?

There's no damm difference talking loud on the phone or to the person in front of you.

Posted: 5/28/2001 2:41:03 AM EDT

[#22]

Every morning I see countless women leaving our subdivison talking on the cell phone. WTF they
just left their house seconds ago and they are
on the phone. Cell phones in hand, coffee, smokes, makeup, YADA BLAH BLAH. The outher day
this woman was at a stop light screaming in her cell when the light turned green she didn't move. I was halfway to the next light before she started moving. It is a very serious problem
and something has to be done.

Posted: 5/28/2001 2:50:38 AM EDT

[#23]

:( I can’t believe the stuff I’m reading on this topic of banning cell phone use in cars. This is AR-15.com not http://mommy-mommy-make-the-government-ban-anything-that-could-hurt-me.com !!!!!

If there is ANY person who posts to this site who thinks cell phones use should be regulated in any way…..then they might as well turn their rifles in at the next “gun safety” guns-for-hugs turn-in and pick up their $50 check . I’m serious. One of the foundations of individual firearms ownership in this country is that “if you are not directly hurting anyone else, then your rights and privacy must be protected.” If you ban the use of phones because of a few careless drivers, the case can easily be made to ban the very rifles of which you discuss on this site.

If you are not consistent in your thinking about preserving freedom, then what is the point of even having a 2 nd amendment ?

I used to wear a seatbelt all the time. Now that they have these stupid mandatory seatbelt laws….I don’t want to wear it. In fact I don’t wear it. The idea that they are passing a law “for my good” turns my stomach. What business is it of theirs if I am hurt in an accident? The only thing that I am hurting is their aggregate insurance premiums, and if we are going to live our lives by that principle then we should just declare ourselves a communist country and be done with it.

Nowadays you cant even ride a dam bicycle without a helmet and not get hassled by cops.

I am all for safety and am a safe driver…..but before long, you wont be able to walk down the street without violating one law or another.

Judge: “Sir, didn’t you know that this state has a mandatory no-cell phone in car law” ?

Defendant: “No”

Judge: “Ignorance of the law is no excuse, 500 dollar fine”

I usually don’t like to post on this kind of stuff cause it pisses me off. :(

Posted: 5/28/2001 2:56:40 AM EDT

[#24]

It's like gun laws. Enforce the existing laws on driving erratically and you won't need new ones.

Ross

Posted: 5/28/2001 4:01:03 AM EDT

[#25]

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 5/28/2001 4:37:46 AM EDT

[#26]

I've had a few close calls with drivers with cell phones stuck on there ears also.I don't believe that there should be a ban on there use though.Don't we already have enough laws? Don't most if not all states have laws that covers accidents caused by a driver being distracted and causing an accident? I agree with Ross. My 2 cents.

Posted: 5/28/2001 4:45:55 AM EDT

[#27]

man I agree after reading some of these post that theres a problem out there with some folks use of the phones. when I posted this thread I was still thinking about all of the close calls I have had over the last three days. I also understand we should not just pass laws just to pass laws just like our gun laws and I myself think helmet laws are not right also. I know there are all kinds of reasons for accidents and most all of us have caused one once in their life. but I don't know sometimes I just get tired of those folks trying to run me over and it pisses me off. if they didn't have all of those road rage laws getting out and popping one in the mouth might make them think twice before useing one and not being responsible. my wife saw this post and agreed its a tough problem as she told me about a lady talking on a cell phone that was right next to her and the speed limit is 55 and my wife stopped for the light and that lady just blew though it. scarry. all of that in just 3 days. I can not wait tell I get out of here and move somewhere like wyoming where I should not have to worry about gun laws and cell phones.

Posted: 5/28/2001 5:22:04 AM EDT

[#28]

jc,cell phones and gun laws are creeping in to all areas.Moving to the country will buy you some time,but we're losing ground every day.Keep driving defensively.[;)]

Posted: 5/28/2001 5:31:44 AM EDT

[#29]

No. I've come close to being run off the road more by women putting on their makeup and other people looking down at their stereo (or whatever) than I have by people on their cell phone.

Although the intention may be well meant, it's just another law that we don't need.

Posted: 5/28/2001 5:46:36 AM EDT

[#30]

just a reality check for all, parts of upstate new york and long island already BANNED the use of cell phones! can you say H-i-l-l-a-r-y ???

(i hate the B word!)

my .02 is that people were driving like "----" before cell phones were invented! these are same people who spill hot coffee on themselves and sue!!!!!

Posted: 5/28/2001 6:10:59 AM EDT

[#31]

A3snake, good points. The worst part is that some Chuckie-Schumer-wannabe will champion this cause--FOR THE CHILDREN, and we will have yet another government intrusion on our lives. Then they'll need more money for more enforcement, and more of our taxes will get taken.

Driving will always be dangerous--drive defensively.

Posted: 5/28/2001 6:14:43 AM EDT

[#32]

More laws, yes indeed, we need more laws. How about no make up in the rear view while driving? More damned laws, are you kidding?

Posted: 5/28/2001 6:23:02 AM EDT

[#33]

Double, triple, or even quadruple the $ amount for any moving violation ticket where driver was observed on a cell phone.

Posted: 5/28/2001 6:26:58 AM EDT

[#34]

Well having owned guns and been driving for a long time (25 years) there is a diffence.

Cell phones really are a danger as we have all seen three or four drivers a week having problems with them. It's not the phone's fault, it's the drivers fault using the phone in at a bad time. I don't own one and wonder what these people did before they could spend their driving hours on the phone. It use to be we'd laugh at the guys shaving, reading the paper or eating lunch behind the wheel. Now every idiot driving is on the phone for God's sake. They are a new menace and are killing as many people as drunk drivers (if I'm to believe the figures from the TV news [;)]). These idiots can barely drive and chew gum.

Guns on the other hand haven't changed and need no new laws governing their use. If we suddenly had people setting up shooting ranges inside their backyards and shooting .300 Win Mags into the neighbor's yards we'd be passing ordinances that forbid the un-needed risk to innocent people.

If these idiots driving with their cell phones were to have three or four accidental discharges with their pistols they'd stop using them yet I can follow one lady on the phone and see her wander three or four times across the double yellow line or into the next lane nearly hitting somebody within the span of half an hour.

What do those people talk about for hours on end on their phones anyway?

Posted: 5/28/2001 6:28:10 AM EDT

[#35]

Simply should be a moving violation to use a Cell Phone while driving. There are far too many inattentive drivers. The same should go for headphones since you really can't hear emergeny vehicles. My 0.02

Posted: 5/28/2001 6:30:40 AM EDT

[#36]

Maybe another law isn't a good thing, but let's face it, many of these people can't walk and chew gum at the same time. I sat behind some nimrod friday that sat through a light change because he was talking on his cell phone, while I was blowing the horn, oblivious to everything going on around him.
I also had a co-worker killed by some dizzy bitch who ran him over while he was changing a tire on the side of the road. She was putting on her make up while driving (kept going too!)

***** Let's forget the law. Let's say you take the written part of the DL exam, orally on a cell phone while taking the driving part of the exam at the same time. Fair enough?????*** [):)]

Posted: 5/28/2001 6:32:33 AM EDT

[#37]

You`re right Waldo, but do I need a law if I can chew gum and drive at the same time?

Posted: 5/28/2001 6:39:53 AM EDT

[#38]

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You`re right Waldo, but do I need a law if I can chew gum and drive at the same time?

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Did you read this part?

Let's forget the law. Let's say you take the written part of the DL exam, orally on a cell phone while taking the driving part of the exam at the same time. Fair enough?????***

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Posted: 5/28/2001 6:42:14 AM EDT

[#39]

Were there accidents before the cell phone? I suspect that there were. accidents will happen, that's why they're called accidents, not "on purpose". The reason varies as much as people which cause them. No two causes are alike, so it's very hard to eliminate them completely. The more people that drive, the more accidents will occur. In fact,the way some people drive,i'm surprised that there aren't more accidents than there really are.

Posted: 5/28/2001 6:53:49 AM EDT

[#40]

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You`re right Waldo, but do I need a law if I can chew gum and drive at the same time?

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How about the trite phrase, "if it just saves one life, it will be worth it?"

Posted: 5/28/2001 6:57:38 AM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:
It's like gun laws. Enforce the existing laws on driving erratically and you won't need new ones.

Ross

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Right on!!!

I must say, however, that living in the PRK and dealing with the gnarly rush hour traffic on the freeways I consider cell phones to be a special nemesis. I see FAR more near collisions caused by people driving while holding a cell phone in one hand than by people eating. Specifically when merging onto the freeway or changing lanes.

Other pet nemeses of mine are people reading, putting on makeup, fixing their hair, shaving, etc.

If talking on a cell phone causes a person to be unable to pay attention to the traffic conditions and causes an accident, that is WRECKLESS DRIVING and should be treated as such.

We do NOT need more laws.

Posted: 5/28/2001 7:37:09 AM EDT

[#42]

yes I agree we don't need another law. and alot of states already have laws including mine. I do believe maybe I should just more carefull and aware of them when I drive.
I do eat when driving quite often but I find myself more aware of my surroundings because I'am eating or drinking a soda. I think it does not take to many brain cells to put a burger in my mouth. not to much to think about, put it in my mouth and eat. but that soccer mom who knows it could be like. what are you going to wear today and who's going to the soccer game. its bad in some areas.
you go to prison here for speeding and causing a accident in which someone dies. they call it road rage or aggressive driving. but kill someone while doing the speed limit talking on the phone and its a hard thing to prove just a accident.
Hey I got a great ideal lets reverse the big city's controling everything like gun laws and the such and pass a law that makes it only illegal to use a cell phone while driving within the city limits of big cities like denver or l.a. cell phones kill more folks in those city's than guns lets outlaw them for those anti gun folks that just have to have a cell phone and the only number they can call is 911 to rat each other out!!!!!!

Posted: 5/29/2001 9:53:02 AM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You`re right Waldo, but do I need a law if I can chew gum and drive at the same time?

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How about the trite phrase, "if it just saves one life, it will be worth it?"

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No, it's not trite: it's ridiculous. Everything can kill anybody if used correctly. Bricks cause radiation (as does anything else), so much all homes be built from clay/mud or stucko, because it's "for the children"?

(Bill O'Reilly mode ON)
How about instead of banning cell phones, we have tougher prosecution against "reckless driving" for people who obviously weren't watching the road or driving responsibly (which ccan include cell phones) when they got into ttheir accident.
(Bill O'Reilly mode OFF)

Or hey, how about this: tougher sentences for f'kers who drunk drive and hit somebody? I see drunk driving rampant, but nobody wants to do much about it besides "suspend the driver's license". How about throwing in attempted murder while you're at it? A friend of mine was killed 7 years ago by some n'ger (and I have the right to use that word in this case) who was driving drunk, and 30 mph over the 55 posted speed limit, and T-boned her from the side, causing her to fly off the bridge into a ditch. He went to jail; I think he should have fried.

But no, that's not our policy to fry people who murder innocents. No, no, we send them to prison for 60 years, so they can live off of our tax dollars for the rest of their life, and "learn from their mistakes" like a g'damn 5-year old sitting in the corner. This cell-phone/seat belt bullshit has to stop, and it can only be done so by responsible drivers speaking out about the uselessness of the law, and the other evils out there which are far worse than "cell-phones".

If I get pulled over with a cell-phone in use, and get charged for it, I'll simply say "it's a digital phone, not cellular". Tedious, trivial methods like this sometimes have to be taken for tedious, trivial legislature like this one.

A Pissed off Jewbroni~

Posted: 5/29/2001 1:46:57 PM EDT

[#44]

No. Idiots should be banned.

Nuff said

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