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.... So please explain to me how, if the states were all sovereign, that the Federal Government winds up with most of the land, especially out west. Nevada is some 90% owned by the Feds, and California is too.
I mean, who gave them the land? When California wanted to join the Union, the Feds said "Give us 70% of all the land and we'll talk"? I know the Union was worried about California going with the South, so couldn't the state have written their own ticket?
Where does it say in the Constitution that the Federal Government should own all the land anyway?.....
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Here's what I think happened. The original 13 states were established as colonies by the time the Constitution was signed, so they became states naturally.
Then at some point came the Louisiana purchase and a few others, where the U.S. bought entire territories from the French & others. Texas was a nation in its own right, but the rest of the acquired land was originally owned by the U.S. government. Then in order to encourage settlement, they had land grants and homesteading, whereby you could lay claim to some of this land. (After it was stolen from the Indians, that is) Before they became states, the Mid-west & Western states were U.S. territories. These territories were not all originally independent like Texas was. Puerto Rico is still a U.S. territory, agitating for statehood recently.
In order to become a state, they had to meet conditions to be admitted to the Union, which meant among other things, Utah had to give up the ability of a man to have 5 wives if he wanted (a step backwards, if you ask me.) Texas supposedly was able to retain the right to secede from the union, by virtue of being totally independent before becoming a state (broke off from Mexico, I believe).
I think those conditions were pretty much politically determined, though some were set by the Constitution.
So it wsn't like the states owned all the land and gave it to the feds, it was the other way around, the feds gave a lot to the people & probably to the territorial governments, too, then they became states.
[red]PRK