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Posted: 12/2/2021 12:08:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: This IS GD, where we fly off the handle and jump to the craziest conclusion. Didnt Russia do this last year (or was it earlier this year) when they had their massive mil. buildup at the border "acting" like they were about to invade only to return to barracks after. Some theorized that it was the precursor or rehersal for an actual invasion, preparing routes and forward positions and maybe even pre-positioning equipment. Or is all of this meant to make Ukraine bankrupt by constantly mobilizing for an invasion that comes politically rather than militarily? |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 12:09:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: For some reason it got moved to the .mil forum That is beyond childish for whatever mod decided to move it there As if that’s going to provide any security measures should sensitive info get posted. Which it shouldn’t be here in the first place. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 3:35:55 PM EDT
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@58Teague will you be updating this thread as well or to the same level as the other one.
your insight is excellent on these issues. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 3:39:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: @58Teague will you be updating this thread as well or to the same level as the other one. your insight is excellent on these issues. Unfortunately, no. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 3:41:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Finslayer83]
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Posted: 12/2/2021 3:46:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WardenAKFiles]
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I am wondering......
Official Ukraine hates Russia. Some amount of people hate Russia. No russian language, no russian symbols, no russian art - all that is prohibited sometimes by criminal law. So why is Ukraine still wants russian pipeline? When is your national pride goes to the point where you say fuck your pipeline. In their clown world, Ukraine is refusing to buy directly from russia but buying gas from european countries perfectly realising that they simple reselling them same russian gas. Is promised coup already underway? |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 3:51:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JQ66: That is beyond childish for whatever mod decided to move it there As if that’s going to provide any security measures should sensitive info get posted. Which it shouldn’t be here in the first place. You clearly didn't keep reading... |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 3:53:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jman1984: Commies ruin it for everyone? That is true. Just look at what Marxist Joe and 'Heels Up' Kommiela have done in the last year to appease the desires of their overlord, George Soros.  |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 7:49:19 PM EDT
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I'm late getting here. Why was the previous thread moved? Did a mod say why. Why is someone who was updating not aloud to post updates here. I'm not giving out my dd214 after buying a gold membership just to read a thread. That forum is not secure so what's up with putting a current event thread there.
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Posted: 12/2/2021 8:05:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jon101st: I'm late getting here. Why was the previous thread moved? Did a mod say why. Why is someone who was updating not aloud to post updates here. I'm not giving out my dd214 after buying a gold membership just to read a thread. That forum is not secure so what's up with putting a current event thread there. OP requested the move due to PERSEC. He’s good people. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 8:29:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WardenAKFiles: I am wondering...... Official Ukraine hates Russia. Some amount of people hate Russia. No russian language, no russian symbols, no russian art - all that is prohibited sometimes by criminal law. So why is Ukraine still wants russian pipeline? When is your national pride goes to the point where you say fuck your pipeline. In their clown world, Ukraine is refusing to buy directly from russia but buying gas from european countries perfectly realising that they simple reselling them same russian gas. Is promised coup already underway? Oh you were just wondering huh? 
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Posted: 12/2/2021 8:57:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WardenAKFiles: I am wondering...... Official Ukraine hates Russia. Some amount of people hate Russia. No russian language, no russian symbols, no russian art - all that is prohibited sometimes by criminal law. So why is Ukraine still wants russian pipeline? When is your national pride goes to the point where you say fuck your pipeline. In their clown world, Ukraine is refusing to buy directly from russia but buying gas from european countries perfectly realising that they simple reselling them same russian gas. Is promised coup already underway? 
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GA, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2021 7:19:29 AM EDT
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Is she BOILING a slice of pizza?
I am going to have to save that for the semi annual "what's the best way to reheat leftover pizza?" thread. And how long before someone asks "there's a stove in that pic?" |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 7:31:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Oh you were just wondering huh? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoBrau: Originally Posted By WardenAKFiles: I am wondering...... Official Ukraine hates Russia. Some amount of people hate Russia. No russian language, no russian symbols, no russian art - all that is prohibited sometimes by criminal law. So why is Ukraine still wants russian pipeline? When is your national pride goes to the point where you say fuck your pipeline. In their clown world, Ukraine is refusing to buy directly from russia but buying gas from european countries perfectly realising that they simple reselling them same russian gas. Is promised coup already underway? Oh you were just wondering huh? |
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AL, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2021 10:27:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GLOCKshooter: Is she BOILING a slice of pizza? I am going to have to save that for the semi annual "what's the best way to reheat leftover pizza?" thread. And how long before someone asks "there's a stove in that pic?" It was the first thing I noticed as well. Did we catch teh gay? |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2021 10:38:27 AM EDT
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With the USA being effectively neutered, nothing to stop Russia,China or even Mexico.
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Posted: 12/3/2021 10:47:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amd_dude: Many of those forces never went 'home'. They're basically staged for this. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By amd_dude: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: This IS GD, where we fly off the handle and jump to the craziest conclusion. Didnt Russia do this last year (or was it earlier this year) when they had their massive mil. buildup at the border "acting" like they were about to invade only to return to barracks after. Some theorized that it was the precursor or rehersal for an actual invasion, preparing routes and forward positions and maybe even pre-positioning equipment. Or is all of this meant to make Ukraine bankrupt by constantly mobilizing for an invasion that comes politically rather than militarily? Correct. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 10:57:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anbbna: It was the first thing I noticed as well. Did we catch teh gay? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By anbbna: Originally Posted By GLOCKshooter: Is she BOILING a slice of pizza? I am going to have to save that for the semi annual "what's the best way to reheat leftover pizza?" thread. And how long before someone asks "there's a stove in that pic?" It was the first thing I noticed as well. Did we catch teh gay? I'm still trying to decide if that's a man or not 
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Posted: 12/3/2021 10:58:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HappyCamel: Got to love transplants Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HappyCamel: Originally Posted By LoBrau: Originally Posted By WardenAKFiles: I am wondering...... Official Ukraine hates Russia. Some amount of people hate Russia. No russian language, no russian symbols, no russian art - all that is prohibited sometimes by criminal law. So why is Ukraine still wants russian pipeline? When is your national pride goes to the point where you say fuck your pipeline. In their clown world, Ukraine is refusing to buy directly from russia but buying gas from european countries perfectly realising that they simple reselling them same russian gas. Is promised coup already underway? Oh you were just wondering huh? That dude was banned from the previous thread and I'm just guessing here but likely a reason it was moved. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 11:18:35 AM EDT
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Some info here....I'm just scouring poublic sources and not sure how valid or slanted the info may be. Feel free to tell me it's bullshit
https://liveuamap.com/  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 11:39:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: thezentree]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run: That dude was banned from the previous thread and I'm just guessing here but likely a reason it was moved. I hope that's unrelated to the PERSEC issues. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 11:51:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WardenAKFiles: I am wondering...... Official Ukraine hates Russia. Some amount of people hate Russia. No russian language, no russian symbols, no russian art - all that is prohibited sometimes by criminal law. So why is Ukraine still wants russian pipeline? When is your national pride goes to the point where you say fuck your pipeline. In their clown world, Ukraine is refusing to buy directly from russia but buying gas from european countries perfectly realising that they simple reselling them same russian gas. Is promised coup already underway? 
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Posted: 12/3/2021 11:53:21 AM EDT
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 Ukrainian Armed Forces “Each of Us” |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 11:53:58 AM EDT
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https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2019/06/exclusive-satellite-photos-detail-russian-military-buildup-crimea/157642/
S-400 installations in Crimea, ignore the Trump hating bullshit but it appears Russia has made these installations permanent.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 11:55:43 AM EDT
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Buildup in Yelnya, roughly 160-170 miles north of the Ukrainian border. I can't find any recent images to see if these vehicles are on the move closer to the border.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/moscows-continuing-ukrainian-buildup  Attached File |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2021 12:14:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83:
Oh my. 
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Posted: 12/3/2021 3:57:22 PM EDT
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CNN stating they're not just parking vehicles, Russia is staging logistics
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IL, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2021 4:08:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run: CNN stating they're not just parking vehicles, Russia is staging logistics
It's funny how people on this forum will trust and believe CNN and democrat politicians and bureaucrats when it comes to Russia. |
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MA, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2021 5:00:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheResurrector]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnT83: It's funny how people on this forum will trust and believe CNN and democrat politicians and bureaucrats when it comes to Russia.  
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Posted: 12/3/2021 5:52:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnT83: It's funny how people on this forum will trust and believe CNN and democrat politicians and bureaucrats when it comes to Russia. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnT83: Originally Posted By 2tired2run: CNN stating they're not just parking vehicles, Russia is staging logistics
It's funny how people on this forum will trust and believe CNN and democrat politicians and bureaucrats when it comes to Russia. You got anything helpful to contribute or would just rather be snarky? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-21/u-s-intel-shows-russian-plans-for-potential-ukraine-invasion
Someone dropped about 50 122mm shells into Ukraine ....again assuming google translate got it right. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 6:02:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2tired2run]
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Russia claiming they scrambled jets to escort US planes too close to their borders near Ukraine.
https://tass.com/defense/1370675 possibly this one....
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Posted: 12/3/2021 6:18:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2tired2run]
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This guys tweeter feed is full of videos showing equipment movements but there is little context of where and when.
Apparently a Ukrainian military transport flew from Turkey, again no context but just a guess Ukraine bought some Turkish drones and took delivery. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-03/ukraine-buys-more-armed-drones-from-turkey-than-disclosed-and-angers-russia
Translated... IL-76 of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the Turkish airport Tekirdag, located in Corlu. Tekirdag is used both as a civilian and as a military airfield. there is a flight and training center Bayraktar Akıncı Flight and Training Center Putenka military correspondents in alarm |
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Posted: 12/4/2021 9:25:09 AM EDT
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Great article on Russian logistics requirements for an invasion of the Baltic states. Ukraine may be serve as an unwilling proving ground.
https://warontherocks.com/2021/11/feeding-the-bear-a-closer-look-at-russian-army-logistics/ |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 10:45:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2tired2run]
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Turn your volume down/off....these guys love rap and electronic hip/hop
 8th mountain Brigade other troop and equipment movements Ukrainian BMP firing on rebels Ukraine moving equipment east |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 10:49:31 AM EDT
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Tigr MRAPS moving to Yelnya
Russian Airborne Troops Artillery Unit in Lipetsk Region Artillery Fire in Dokuchaevsk in Donbas |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 10:50:38 AM EDT
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War of the Drones
Ukrainian Drone Separatist Drone |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:05:51 AM EDT
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BTR's convoy in Crimea
Donestsk
US Army Manned ISR in the black sea ......Interesting relatively new plane
Russian intercept of ISR and RC135 over black sear
Tweet implying US Army personnel are assisting with air defense system testing in Ukraine
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:56:17 AM EDT
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Getting froggy
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Posted: 12/6/2021 1:27:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run: War of the Drones Ukrainian Drone Separatist Drone |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 2:30:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Damn, poor guy ran right into the blast on that second vid. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By 2tired2run: War of the Drones Ukrainian Drone Separatist Drone Yeah ...i was a bit torn on posting that one. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Damn, poor guy ran right into the blast on that second vid. What are these munitions? Did they dig up boxes of potato mashers? Do they just dangle under the drone? |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:59:36 PM EDT
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I imagine it would go over like a shit in a spacesuit. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:02:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Firearmsenthusiast]
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:05:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bayrunner83]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PissedMick:
I imagine it would go over like a shit in a spacesuit. Let’s not, no matter how badly the PRINCIPALED_CONSERVATIVES and the left wants a war. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:14:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run: Tigr MRAPS moving to Yelnya Russian Airborne Troops Artillery Unit in Lipetsk Region Artillery Fire in Dokuchaevsk in Donbas That's more artillery fire than what normally happens in a month on the contact line. Usually they'll fire 1-3 rounds out of a single gun and then beat feet. The rebel side will deny it ever happened and the Ukrainian side will claim it was a devastating bombardment. The video proof of continuous shelling is something we haven't seen in awhile. Also been a long time since a BMP or BTR has pulled up to the contact line and opened fire. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:53:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KennyW1983: Let’s not, no matter how badly the PRINCIPALED_CONSERVATIVES and the left wants a war. Ukraine has said that they want to station US, UK, and/or Canadian troops in Eastern Ukraine. No doubt they want a few to get killed so the US military will fight Russia for them. Russia will react to any development, but they have said that NATO deploying missile systems in Ukraine is a red line just like it was to the US for Soviet missiles in Cuba. Putin means what he says about red lines unlike Obama. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 5:17:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnT83: Ukraine has said that they want to station US, UK, and/or Canadian troops in Eastern Ukraine. No doubt they want a few to get killed so the US military will fight Russia for them. Russia will react to any development, but they have said that NATO deploying missile systems in Ukraine is a red line just like it was to the US for Soviet missiles in Cuba. Putin means what he says about red lines unlike Obama. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnT83: Originally Posted By KennyW1983: Let’s not, no matter how badly the PRINCIPALED_CONSERVATIVES and the left wants a war. Ukraine has said that they want to station US, UK, and/or Canadian troops in Eastern Ukraine. No doubt they want a few to get killed so the US military will fight Russia for them. Russia will react to any development, but they have said that NATO deploying missile systems in Ukraine is a red line just like it was to the US for Soviet missiles in Cuba. Putin means what he says about red lines unlike Obama. The smart play is to commit forces to Poland vs Germany. Poles would love it. Also troop movements towards Yelnya would indicated Belarus bound? Exercise again or a northern front? I have no basis for that theory outside of geography. This thread is good - also highlights the inability for OPSEC with a phone on everyone. How / can the Russians shut that down? Lots to learn here. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 5:35:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: The smart play is to commit forces to Poland vs Germany. Poles would love it. Also troop movements towards Yelnya would indicated Belarus bound? Exercise again or a northern front? I have no basis for that theory outside of geography. This thread is good - also highlights the inability for OPSEC with a phone on everyone. How / can the Russians shut that down? Lots to learn here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Finslayer83: Originally Posted By JohnT83: Originally Posted By KennyW1983: Let’s not, no matter how badly the PRINCIPALED_CONSERVATIVES and the left wants a war. Ukraine has said that they want to station US, UK, and/or Canadian troops in Eastern Ukraine. No doubt they want a few to get killed so the US military will fight Russia for them. Russia will react to any development, but they have said that NATO deploying missile systems in Ukraine is a red line just like it was to the US for Soviet missiles in Cuba. Putin means what he says about red lines unlike Obama. The smart play is to commit forces to Poland vs Germany. Poles would love it. Also troop movements towards Yelnya would indicated Belarus bound? Exercise again or a northern front? I have no basis for that theory outside of geography. This thread is good - also highlights the inability for OPSEC with a phone on everyone. How / can the Russians shut that down? Lots to learn here. Supposedly that's why most of the equipment movement is happening at night. Yet that still cannot be hidden due to satellites. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 5:54:24 PM EDT
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Why send troops to Ukraine? Would be wasting US lives just to get a reason to get more involved once it pops off.
Otoh Poland or other states nearby would be the perfect place to station a defensive force in response. Rebuild what remains of NATO’s paper tiger. Ukraine never should’ve given up it’s nukes. |
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Posted: 12/7/2021 12:36:50 PM EDT
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 Putin's Power Play |
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