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Posted: 10/27/2021 8:27:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Beer_Slayer]
This is now the active "shit News links, thanks to BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: LINKS TO UKRAINIAN NEWS SOURCES IN ENGLISH Kyiv Post Ukrainian News UKRInform EUROMAIDEN PRESS New Voice of Ukraine Kyiv Independent Ukraine World InterFax Ukraine UATV Ukrainian Journal Official Website of the President of Ukraine Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Save these links. I can't post all the headlines like I've done in the past - too much news and too often. Please @ me with additional stuff to be added here. I don't currently have time to properly curate this thread otherwise. New news link c/o berettaguy: Ukrainian Pravda https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/ Stop fake, anti - disinformation site: https://www.stopfake.org/en/main/ |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:00:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:02:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Balu: A few observations: - Impossible to tell if it's fake. It could very easily be fake. - Impossible to tell if it's actually Belgorod. - Impossible to tell where the shells (if real) are coming from and who fired them Information value: low to non-existent Conclusion: propaganda Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Balu: Originally Posted By M-1975: Belgorod getting shelled:
A few observations: - Impossible to tell if it's fake. It could very easily be fake. - Impossible to tell if it's actually Belgorod. - Impossible to tell where the shells (if real) are coming from and who fired them Information value: low to non-existent Conclusion: propaganda Counter FACTS Video geolocated to Belgorod. Person speaking uses Russian accent from Belgorod region. Also you clearly see the projectiles from most likely cluster munitions from rocket artillery round in the video. Conclusion = real |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:03:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Squatch: If they're originating within UKR, my guess is 122mm D-30s. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Squatch: Originally Posted By Gunslinger808: Originally Posted By M-1975: Belgorod getting shelled:
Looks like small explosions almost too small, what kind of shelling? If they're originating within UKR, my guess is 122mm D-30s. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:04:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery:
Damn, I like her.  |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:09:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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From the Wagner Telegram channel regarding the recent pontoon slaughterfest.
Quote Historyhttps://t.me/grey_zone/14060 Regarding the destruction of the equipment of the battalion of the RF Armed Forces at the crossing through Seversky Donetsk near the settlement of Belogorovka, in addition to all the analysis, as, for example, at Rybar, I would like to note with regret that the enemy’s artillery often works better than ours. And this does not depend on the fighters of one side or another, it depends on the forces and means of reconnaissance, detection, calculation, guidance, adjustment and additional reconnaissance of targets - of course, mostly by unmanned vehicles. The Armed Forces of Ukraine apply the Western system of smart combat control, we apply the ruler on the paper map. So, for example, they tried to build a pontoon crossing at this mouth at least twice. That is, a particularly smart character, guided by the fact that the projectile does not fall twice in the same place, and that if you do not see the enemy, then he does not see you, he nevertheless decided to fulfill the order, since in the army there is only - THERE IS SUCH! As a result, what came out came out. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:10:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: No wonder the Poles hate the Russians. Shame I never got to meet my GGF/GGM Niedzwiedz, bet they had something to say. They were from Galicia which no longer exists. Married in Krakow if memory serves me correctly. There is a tremendous history of Poles in America, do some research! |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:14:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:19:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CS223: No wonder the Poles hate the Russians. Shame I never got to meet my GGF/GGM Niedzwiedz, bet they had something to say. They were from Galicia which no longer exists. Married in Krakow if memory serves me correctly. Galicia still exists. I knew people who speak Gallego. It's the crazy mix of Spanish and Portuguese |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:23:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Angry noises from Russians Evacuated Azerbaijanis give a press conference in Kyiv. Yes Yes. You heard right. Evacuees. I would like to receive a comment from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. How were these characters (completely banned in Russia) evacuated from Azovstal? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5KV7SaD5AA https://t.me/grey_zone/14043 For the sake of objectivity, one of the Azov servicemen was identified, it turned out to be a Georgian who participated in the battles near Kharkov, and not in Mariupol. The rest could have been in a helicopter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that managed to escape from the fire from the territory of Mariupol (March 31), at that time, the second of which was shot down along with the evacuated wounded of the Ukrainian side. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:25:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 715700]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Damn, I like her. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Originally Posted By outofbattery:
Damn, I like her. I was quite neutral on her,liked some things and didn’t care for others. She has stepped up incredibly well as what amounts to a wartime leader and I think she’s doing a phenomenal job.
And then there is Macron,making a theatrical trailer 🤦🏼♂️
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:26:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: Well, this thread just keeps going in circles, doesn't it?  We were discussing cargo drones earlier, and I tend to agree, these quads/octos make snappy videos but I doubt their efficacy. The KMAX (a real heli by Kaman) is a total different load class than even the largest octo-copter, and the endurance of something on batteries has to be shit. The plywood cargo gliders I posted about earlier in the thread could be lifted by helicopter and dropped, and then glide up to 80km. Besides being cheap enough to be disposable, the number of cycles you could get out of one helicopter climbing to altitude to release drones is WAY better. Sling 5-6 drones, climb, release, drones glide to 5-6 individual target points, meanwhile helicopter lands, rinse and repeat, without the helicopter ever needing to go far from the loading point. I'd forgotten about that, I saw that video. And that's a cargo GLIDER. What happens when a quadcopter glides? Why haven't they made a quadcopter glider? I wonder if it is possible to make an aircraft that is a glider with a propeller backup. Use the propeller only to gain height, then turn off the motor and silently coast for as far as it can coast, then climb again. It seems like the range would be amazing. And it would be silently be carrying smart bombs. This is why I have to become an engineer. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:32:12 PM EDT
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The fog of war is getting thicker.
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WY, USA
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:34:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: The fog of war is getting thicker. It's funny because of cell phones and internet you would think that would have cleared the fog of war but it only enabled disinformation and bullshit. It's still very dense. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:38:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Can you condense or something for somebody who doesn't speak that language? |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:39:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Counter FACTS Video geolocated to Belgorod. Person speaking uses Russian accent from Belgorod region. Also you clearly see the projectiles from most likely cluster munitions from rocket artillery round in the video. Conclusion = real Who shot them?
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:46:53 PM EDT
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 UKRAINIAN TROOPS FOUGHT ALL THE WAY TO THE RUSSIAN BORDER || 2022 |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:47:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: The fog of war is getting thicker. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 10:59:31 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2022 11:05:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I'd forgotten about that, I saw that video. And that's a cargo GLIDER. What happens when a quadcopter glides? Why haven't they made a quadcopter glider? I wonder if it is possible to make an aircraft that is a glider with a propeller backup. Use the propeller only to gain height, then turn off the motor and silently coast for as far as it can coast, then climb again. It seems like the range would be amazing. And it would be silently be carrying smart bombs. This is why I have to become an engineer. We could call it...an airplane. I don't think the quads glide at all, nor can they auto-rotate (not enough mass in the plastic props vs an actual rotor). Another few things I noticed about the KMAX even, after looking it up: It only has a 15k ft ceiling, and it has ONE engine. That is great for what it does mostly now, which is heli-logging, as it keeps the costs down. Not so great if you want to try to conduct autonomous medevac in the future (insufficient redundancy). However a glider would be dependent on the drop height to reach maximum range (I think a couple recent ones could achieve 10:1 in testing). IOW, to go 50 miles you need to drop from 5 miles up. That's really high, and I don't know if there are many (any?) helicopters that can reach that height with any appreciable load. Round and round it goes. TANSTAAFL. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 11:09:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I just don't get why powering 4 rotors is preferable to wings which I would think would be a lot more efficient for carrying stuff. Obviously I don't get it. I would think wings would give more range and more cargo weight. which is why toys that fly for a few minutes, or slightly larger tools that perform basically miniature helicopter functions for a few tens of minutes, don't scale up well to "fly 500 miles and carry 20 troops or a big slung or internal load". 20 minute flight time as a weapon system spotter? perfect application. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 11:13:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hesperus]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunGuyMP: It's funny because of cell phones and internet you would think that would have cleared the fog of war but it only enabled disinformation and bullshit. It's still very dense. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunGuyMP: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: The fog of war is getting thicker. It's funny because of cell phones and internet you would think that would have cleared the fog of war but it only enabled disinformation and bullshit. It's still very dense. It can be cut through though, by a combination of critical thinking, an open flow of data and open source satellite surveillance. Regardless of anything else. Dead is dead and enormous piles of dead people and shot up military equipment are proving difficult to hide. The revolution is being televised. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 11:34:22 PM EDT
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Western allies diverge over Ukraine war aims
Pushing for negotiations, Western European leaders are at cross-purposes with Kyiv. https://www.politico.eu/article/western-allies-diverge-over-ukraine-war-aims-eu-us/ But Ukraine’s leaders are in no mood to hear talk of ceasefires or negotiations at this stage — and they are wary of Europeans advocating negotiations. Paris and Berlin’s history of pressuring smaller states into making concessions to Russia makes them especially suspicious, officials told me in Kyiv recently. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 11:45:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTLandser: We could call it...an airplane. I don't think the quads glide at all, nor can they auto-rotate (not enough mass in the plastic props vs an actual rotor). Another few things I noticed about the KMAX even, after looking it up: It only has a 15k ft ceiling, and it has ONE engine. That is great for what it does mostly now, which is heli-logging, as it keeps the costs down. Not so great if you want to try to conduct autonomous medevac in the future (insufficient redundancy). However a glider would be dependent on the drop height to reach maximum range (I think a couple recent ones could achieve 10:1 in testing). IOW, to go 50 miles you need to drop from 5 miles up. That's really high, and I don't know if there are many (any?) helicopters that can reach that height with any appreciable load. Round and round it goes. TANSTAAFL. Funny you say they cant autorotate as I just watched this a few minutes ago. They took a drone up to 15k feet and turned off the motors. I wouldnt call it a helo autorotation by any means, but it wasnt tumbling out of the sky either.  4500m in 4K (DJI FPV) |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 11:46:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Western allies diverge over Ukraine war aims Pushing for negotiations, Western European leaders are at cross-purposes with Kyiv. https://www.politico.eu/article/western-allies-diverge-over-ukraine-war-aims-eu-us/ But Ukraine's leaders are in no mood to hear talk of ceasefires or negotiations at this stage and they are wary of Europeans advocating negotiations. Paris and Berlin's history of pressuring smaller states into making concessions to Russia makes them especially suspicious, officials told me in Kyiv recently.  Attached FileFuck anyone telling them to negotiate. They're either dumb as a box of rocks or are trying to manipulate UA for their own purposes. |
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Posted: 5/13/2022 11:52:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/13/2022 11:54:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: Funny you say they cant autorotate as I just watched this a few minutes ago. They took a drone up to 15k feet and turned off the motors. I wouldnt call it a helo autorotation by any means, but it wasnt tumbling out of the sky either.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkIMj6VOiiEQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By GTLandser: We could call it...an airplane. I don't think the quads glide at all, nor can they auto-rotate (not enough mass in the plastic props vs an actual rotor). Another few things I noticed about the KMAX even, after looking it up: It only has a 15k ft ceiling, and it has ONE engine. That is great for what it does mostly now, which is heli-logging, as it keeps the costs down. Not so great if you want to try to conduct autonomous medevac in the future (insufficient redundancy). However a glider would be dependent on the drop height to reach maximum range (I think a couple recent ones could achieve 10:1 in testing). IOW, to go 50 miles you need to drop from 5 miles up. That's really high, and I don't know if there are many (any?) helicopters that can reach that height with any appreciable load. Round and round it goes. TANSTAAFL. Funny you say they cant autorotate as I just watched this a few minutes ago. They took a drone up to 15k feet and turned off the motors. I wouldnt call it a helo autorotation by any means, but it wasnt tumbling out of the sky either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkIMj6VOiiEI have one and ran the battery out all of the way at about 500 feet once . . . it tumbled out of the sky and luckily had the fall broken by a pine tree. Got away with a few broken props. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 12:00:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Western allies diverge over Ukraine war aims Pushing for negotiations, Western European leaders are at cross-purposes with Kyiv. https://www.politico.eu/article/western-allies-diverge-over-ukraine-war-aims-eu-us/ But Ukraine’s leaders are in no mood to hear talk of ceasefires or negotiations at this stage — and they are wary of Europeans advocating negotiations. Paris and Berlin’s history of pressuring smaller states into making concessions to Russia makes them especially suspicious, officials told me in Kyiv recently. Russian influence runs pretty deep, it seems to me that this is more of a signal that Russia is ready to stop if they can keep what they stole. Temporarily of course, because you know they will be back. France and Germany to know that. But they are willing to kick the can down the road yet again, because it’s not on their doorsteps yet, under their administrations. They will just Leave the Russians to be a problem for the future. Again. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 12:01:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Who shot them? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Counter FACTS Video geolocated to Belgorod. Person speaking uses Russian accent from Belgorod region. Also you clearly see the projectiles from most likely cluster munitions from rocket artillery round in the video. Conclusion = real Who shot them? lol I dont have a magic ball handy
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Posted: 5/14/2022 12:03:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I just don't get why powering 4 rotors is preferable to wings which I would think would be a lot more efficient for carrying stuff. Obviously I don't get it. I would think wings would give more range and more cargo weight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By sq40: Video, Huge next generation cargo drones offered to the US Marine Corps. The 'KARGO UAV' self-deploys beyond 500 nautical miles and carries up to 800 pounds of payload. via PERMANENTLY_REMOVED
I just don't get why powering 4 rotors is preferable to wings which I would think would be a lot more efficient for carrying stuff. Obviously I don't get it. I would think wings would give more range and more cargo weight. It's not as efficient at transporting cargo as a fixed-wing is. But, you might need V/TOL in certain missions. However, a quadrotor isn't going to be as efficient or as quiet as a conventional helicopter with lower disk loading (and thus higher efficiency). |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 12:08:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Wings make it tough to hover, back up, go sideways, don't need a runway. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By stone-age: I just don't get why powering 4 rotors is preferable to wings which I would think would be a lot more efficient for carrying stuff. Obviously I don't get it. I would think wings would give more range and more cargo weight. Wings make it tough to hover, back up, go sideways, don't need a runway. Having designed, built, and flown UAS with wings that also can hover, back up, go sideways, and don't need a runway, I can say that isn't correct. The only issue tends to be gust response and even that can be mitigated somewhat. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 12:14:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd: That's a benefit, clearly, but the real reason is that a quad copter has no control surfaces. It's batteries, motors, ESCs and a flight controller built around commodity embedded CPUs with commodity (cell phone) MEMS based gyro/accelerometers. They're really really simple and have drastically reduced failure modes compared to any fixed wing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd: Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By sq40: Video, Huge next generation cargo drones offered to the US Marine Corps. The 'KARGO UAV' self-deploys beyond 500 nautical miles and carries up to 800 pounds of payload. via PERMANENTLY_REMOVED
I just don't get why powering 4 rotors is preferable to wings which I would think would be a lot more efficient for carrying stuff. Obviously I don't get it. I would think wings would give more range and more cargo weight. I think precision VTOL, with the ability to rapidly touch down and take off are the key. Plus, these are so maneuverable, they can fly an erratic pattern that can’t be easily countered with AA or enemy fire. They can also fly into enclosed spaces like hangar doors, warehouses, etc, so they can go directly into cover if needed. These would make perfect air ambulances too. That's a benefit, clearly, but the real reason is that a quad copter has no control surfaces. It's batteries, motors, ESCs and a flight controller built around commodity embedded CPUs with commodity (cell phone) MEMS based gyro/accelerometers. They're really really simple and have drastically reduced failure modes compared to any fixed wing. The problem with quadrotors is they don't scale well. Once you start scaling up, the maneuverability goes down markedly because of the rotor inertia. They also are not as robust as fixed wings as a single motor, esc, or prop failure ends in a crash. They actually have *more* single points of failure than fixed wings. For a small drone that's easily replaced, it's not a big issue. For a larger, expensive one, they have significant drawbacks. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 12:19:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Galicia still exists. I knew people who speak Gallego. It's the crazy mix of Spanish and Portuguese Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Originally Posted By CS223: No wonder the Poles hate the Russians. Shame I never got to meet my GGF/GGM Niedzwiedz, bet they had something to say. They were from Galicia which no longer exists. Married in Krakow if memory serves me correctly. Galicia still exists. I knew people who speak Gallego. It's the crazy mix of Spanish and Portuguese He's talking about a different Galicia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 12:21:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CleverNickname: He's talking about a different Galicia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia Ohh.. Well I learned something today |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 12:23:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Having designed, built, and flown UAS with wings that also can hover, back up, go sideways, and don't need a runway, I can say that isn't correct. The only issue tends to be gust response and even that can be mitigated somewhat. It seems that it would be much more complex to build and fly than a quad. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 12:54:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: Funny you say they cant autorotate as I just watched this a few minutes ago. They took a drone up to 15k feet and turned off the motors. I wouldnt call it a helo autorotation by any means, but it wasnt tumbling out of the sky either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkIMj6VOiiEQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: Originally Posted By GTLandser: We could call it...an airplane. I don't think the quads glide at all, nor can they auto-rotate (not enough mass in the plastic props vs an actual rotor). Another few things I noticed about the KMAX even, after looking it up: It only has a 15k ft ceiling, and it has ONE engine. That is great for what it does mostly now, which is heli-logging, as it keeps the costs down. Not so great if you want to try to conduct autonomous medevac in the future (insufficient redundancy). However a glider would be dependent on the drop height to reach maximum range (I think a couple recent ones could achieve 10:1 in testing). IOW, to go 50 miles you need to drop from 5 miles up. That's really high, and I don't know if there are many (any?) helicopters that can reach that height with any appreciable load. Round and round it goes. TANSTAAFL. Funny you say they cant autorotate as I just watched this a few minutes ago. They took a drone up to 15k feet and turned off the motors. I wouldnt call it a helo autorotation by any means, but it wasnt tumbling out of the sky either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkIMj6VOiiEI had a small Y-6 drone whose battery began to fail at about 800ft. It started descending but along the way it started running out of juice. It was able to keep the vehicle upright the whole way down but it landed really hard and broke a landing leg. Replaced the leg and flew it again the next day. But, they can't autorotate as such because they're not designed to with fixed propellers. If I were going to, say, drop some supplies into Mariupol, for example, I'd put an autopilot on an autogyro that would climb up really high shut off the pusher motor, glide down then autorotate for landing. With a little help from a couple of friends of mine, I could get it done in a week or so, assuming all the parts were available and I had an autogyro to use. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 1:57:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: It seems that it would be much more complex to build and fly than a quad. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By planemaker: Having designed, built, and flown UAS with wings that also can hover, back up, go sideways, and don't need a runway, I can say that isn't correct. The only issue tends to be gust response and even that can be mitigated somewhat. It seems that it would be much more complex to build and fly than a quad. One of the more common V/TOL fixed-wing small UAS types is called a quadplane. It's a fixed wing with quad rotors. Takes off and lands vertically and transitions to wing-borne flight to get longer range (and the quad rotors shut off). Fixed-wing UAS are really fairly simple. If you want one that can deal with a single point of failure of any component, that's doable as well with a little bit of clever design. I'm a little surprised we haven't seen a bunch of quadplanes in the war yet. It's probably because it's easier to rig up a multicopter to drop a grenade than to do it with a fixed-wing although I did do a smoke grenade off an FQM-117B one time. The Ukrainians should be using those. If you look them up, you'll see why. 
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Posted: 5/14/2022 2:04:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: One of the more common V/TOL fixed-wing small UAS types is called a quadplane. It's a fixed wing with quad rotors. Takes off and lands vertically and transitions to wing-borne flight to get longer range (and the quad rotors shut off). Fixed-wing UAS are really fairly simple. If you want one that can deal with a single point of failure of any component, that's doable as well with a little bit of clever design. I'm a little surprised we haven't seen a bunch of quadplanes in the war yet. It's probably because it's easier to rig up a multicopter to drop a grenade than to do it with a fixed-wing although I did do a smoke grenade off an FQM-117B one time. The Ukrainians should be using those. If you look them up, you'll see why. I've wanted to do a fixed wing drone for awhile. Was all set to buy the Parrot Disco because someone actually came up with a mod to run it remotely on 4G cell towers. There's video of a guy running one between the islands in Hawaii. Yeah... they discontinued it. 
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Posted: 5/14/2022 2:29:21 AM EDT
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2022 2:51:01 AM EDT
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https://t.me/informnapalm/8489 🔥 On the night of May 12, the Russian Federation lost another ship in the Black Sea, journalists of Channel 24 reported, citing their own sources in intelligence. It is noted that this is a ship of logistics of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation project 23120. There are only two such ships in Russia - "Vsevolod Bobrov" and "Elbrus". "Project 23120 was sailing towards Zmiiny Island at night and a fire broke out on the ship. The crew was rescued later. The charred ship tried to reach Sevastopol in the middle of the night. In turn, journalist Serhiy Vysotsky said on his Facebook page that his sources had just confirmed that the Russian ship had been destroyed by a missile from the Ukrainian coastal complex Neptune. "The ship drove to Snake Island reinforcements, including anti-aircraft missile systems! Russia is trying to hide the fact that our "Neptune" destroyed another ship! But it will not work! ", - said Serhiy Vysotsky. 😏 We are waiting for another batch of betrayal from Solovyov and Girkin over how Ukrainian missiles are destroying the Russian fleet in the Black Sea. @informnapalm |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 2:57:35 AM EDT
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More photos of the Bilohorivka crossing.
https://t.me/informnapalm/8483 Fresh exclusive on InformNapalm. The photo was partially cropped so as not to publish the shooting parameters of the UAV. This afternoon, May 12, the Russians tried to evacuate the trapped troops of the RF Armed Forces. The one that two days ago was able to cross the Seversky Donets, but dispersed under the artillery attacks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Rashists brought another pontoon and expectedly received arrivals at the crossing. After they destroyed the evacuation crossing, the rashists abandoned their equipment and swam across the river. For 4 days of unsuccessful attempts to cross, the Russians lost more than 70 pieces of equipment and two infantry battalions with engineers. According to InformNapalm, the 74th Motorized Rifle Brigade of the RF Armed Forces (military unit 21005) suffered the heaviest losses. The servicemen of this unit have been taking part in the aggression against Ukraine since 2014. @informnapalm |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/14/2022 3:01:50 AM EDT
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Former DPR Defense Minister https://t.me/strelkovii/2545 As an answer to the question: “Was I aware of the terrible loss and senselessness of the pogrom on the Seversky Donets?” - I answer: yes, it was. Even 4 days ago. What I very briefly and without any details reported in the report of May 9: "failure with the crossing of the Seversky Donets south of Kremennoy." I then decided to refuse detailed coverage of the event also for the same reasons for which I did not write about many other “yawning heights of the art of military leadership of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation”, which I know about. However, he did not fully represent the scale of the losses suffered at that time and believed them to be about half or even three times less. Do I now know something in addition to what bloggers have stated? - Yes, I know, including irretrievable losses in people (including senior command staff). But I don't plan to say. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 3:10:46 AM EDT
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Source is the governor of Luhansk, who does talk a lot.
A whole battalion of the Russian army refused to advance on Belogorovka The head of the Lugansk OVA , Sergei Gaidai , said that the Russian invaders had almost captured the city of Rubizhne, but at the same time, a whole battalion of the Russian Federation had already refused to go on the offensive against Belogorovka due to heavy losses. On television, he said that the occupiers control almost everything in Rubizhne, but they have not been able to get through the area protected by the Ukrainian National Guard for the third month. According to him, the situation in the city itself is difficult: there is no water, gas, and the only thing Russians are proud of is that they “opened” a hospital that was closed. He also noted that on the border with the Donetsk region, where the invaders are trying to block the highway from Popasna and Belogorivka, there are powerful battles. “Belogorovka is already going to be history, a byword. Chernobaevka sometimes in some directions, probably, is resting. Because such stubbornness, stupidity, I don’t know what it is, to climb into the front like that, put pontoons in the same place, where almost 90 units of heavy equipment have already been smashed, where a bunch of orcs have been burned, where some boat has been sunk , they had some kind of gondola - we call it the Moscow Region, because it does not pull to Moscow, the helicopter was shot down," Gaidai added. According to him, in this place Russia's attempts to attack are "just terrible", despite which she still tries to do it. “From the intercepts, we understand that it’s just that the whole battalion refused to go on the offensive, because they see what is happening. Now our guys are starting to work out with artillery that side [of the Seversky Donets], on which they tried to gain a foothold. And on the outskirts of Severodonetsk, they say that they took Voevodovka - they took it so that they can’t enter it, because for some reason they are dying. And they are trying to make a breakthrough in the direction of Gorny from Nizhny," Gaidai summed up. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 3:14:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Former DPR Defense Minister https://t.me/strelkovii/2545 As an answer to the question: “Was I aware of the terrible loss and senselessness of the pogrom on the Seversky Donets?” - I answer: yes, it was. Even 4 days ago. What I very briefly and without any details reported in the report of May 9: "failure with the crossing of the Seversky Donets south of Kremennoy." I then decided to refuse detailed coverage of the event also for the same reasons for which I did not write about many other “yawning heights of the art of military leadership of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation”, which I know about. However, he did not fully represent the scale of the losses suffered at that time and believed them to be about half or even three times less. Do I now know something in addition to what bloggers have stated? - Yes, I know, including irretrievable losses in people (including senior command staff). But I don't plan to say. is that a poor translation or do they really talk like special ed 3rd graders? 
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Posted: 5/14/2022 4:30:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: More photos of the Bilohorivka crossing. Insane. That’s a massacre. They earned it. Every inch and round. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 4:30:49 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: He’s wrong. That’s not a pogrom. That’s justice. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 6:18:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/nod-3.gif Fuck anyone telling them to negotiate. They're either dumb as a box of rocks or are trying to manipulate UA for their own purposes. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Western allies diverge over Ukraine war aims Pushing for negotiations, Western European leaders are at cross-purposes with Kyiv. https://www.politico.eu/article/western-allies-diverge-over-ukraine-war-aims-eu-us/ But Ukraine's leaders are in no mood to hear talk of ceasefires or negotiations at this stage and they are wary of Europeans advocating negotiations. Paris and Berlin's history of pressuring smaller states into making concessions to Russia makes them especially suspicious, officials told me in Kyiv recently. Fuck anyone telling them to negotiate. They're either dumb as a box of rocks or are trying to manipulate UA for their own purposes. Watch the video a few posts up of my PM explaining Soviet/Russian bargaining tactics. Macron is willing to give away something that isn’t his to become something that should not be Putin’s. I have read many times “Ukraine shouldn’t fight,they’re making this worse for themselves and risking nuclear war” on this site of supposed conservatives that are supposed to understand how important it is to defend liberty and not buckle under to tyranny and coercion. The exact same people who wonder “Why didn’t the Jews fight? Why didn’t they take up guns?” will tell you that Ukrainians should simply accept being shot in the back for their own good. This portion of the right has devolved into sheer contemptible madness. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 7:13:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: is that a poor translation or do they really talk like special ed 3rd graders? Telegram's translation. |
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Posted: 5/14/2022 7:14:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/14/2022 7:24:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/14/2022 7:27:37 AM EDT
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Azov Deputy says 6,000 Russians killed and over 100 armored vehicles.
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