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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:39:44 PM EDT
[#1]
all of them at once
 Velocimag, Stinger, stuff like that otherwise. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:40:01 PM EDT
[#2]
Stingers?
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:41:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Velocitor
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:43:25 PM EDT
[#4]
Probably any of them. Aguila 60 grain SSS subsonic really does tumble in flight too. Living room distance, and it tumbles. That would be as good of a choice as any.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:44:08 PM EDT
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Those solid copper CCI loads might work. They’re something like 19 grains at 1800fps. Good luck finding some though.
Otherwise… Velocitors, Stingers or MiniMags. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:44:21 PM EDT
[#6]
Another vote for velocitor.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:44:26 PM EDT
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I would go look at ballistic gelatin penetration and expansion for a short barrel, but here is a free bump in case one of the GD autists can regurgitate or link that info up.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:45:10 PM EDT
[#8]
Stinger or Velocitor
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:45:42 PM EDT
[#9]
9mm
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:47:30 PM EDT
[#10]
CB Shorts
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:48:41 PM EDT
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Federal just came out with a new .22lr cartridge designed for self defense. I think it's called Punch but not sure. I haven't tried it yet but on my next long break from work I'm going to see how it does in my M and P .22 pistol. Might be worth a look, OP
ETA link https://www.federalpremium.com/rimfire/personal-defense-punch-rimfire/11-PD22L1.html |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:49:14 PM EDT
[#12]
Wasn't there someone loading 22 LR bullets in a 12 gauge shotgun shell? I vote that.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:50:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stingers? That would get my vote. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:50:42 PM EDT
[#14]
CCI Stinger or any of the other hyper-velocity offerings. MAKE CERTAIN whatever she chooses will load, shoot and eject from her gun. Try to get her to run at least a hundred (preferably two hundred) rounds through it to vet the ammo/gun combination, learn to confidently hit a bad-guy size target at practical distances and learn to load and empty her gun efficiently.
Please start with the FOUR ABSOLUTES of safe gun handling. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:51:19 PM EDT
[#15]
Don’t know if you can find the remington yellow jacket anymore, but I would look for them stinger’s of something along that line.
Think speed and a bullet that deforms |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:52:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 9mm |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:52:28 PM EDT
[#17]
I just bought some Winchester "Silvertip" segmented HPs (at WallyWorld of all places.) Don't know much about it, but it was in stock and I thought I would give it a try.
"1 Segmenting Hollow Point Achieves devestating energy transfer by splitting into four pieces upon impact, while the bullet base still achieves deep penetration. 2 Optimized for Short Barrels Powder is tailored for common personal defense firearms to deliver the velocity required to initiate segmentation upon impact."  Attached Filehttps://winchester.com/Products/Ammunition/Rimfire/Silvertip-Rimfire |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:53:12 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: all of them at once Velocimag, Stinger, stuff like that otherwise. DANG - FPNI and beat came here to say THIS LOL |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:53:19 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 9mm Lol insraelis did some work with .22’s. Also that gangbanger killed that cop with a glock in .22. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:55:37 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 9mm This! |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:55:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: CCI Stinger or any of the other hyper-velocity offerings. MAKE CERTAIN whatever she chooses will load, shoot and eject from her gun. Try to get her to run at least a hundred (preferably two hundred) rounds through it to vet the ammo/gun combination, learn to confidently hit a bad-guy size target at practical distances and learn to load and empty her gun efficiently. Please start with the FOUR ABSOLUTES of safe gun handling. Hmm - it's a revolver so it will definitely load and eject. Most likely no problem igniting the rounds either. Fast Defensive reloading a 22LR though is something I would like to see Maybe a good Miculek challenge! Do they make speed clips for 22LR Airweight? |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:01:50 PM EDT
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Something made by CCI, which IME is the most likely to go bang when the hammer drops.
This is the reason that I think WMR should be the only .22 rimfire to consider for defense. In general, it seems to be made with much more care and is more likely to have priming compound around the entire rim. The enhances terminal ballistics while still having minimal recoil also doesn't hurt. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:07:52 PM EDT
[#23]
These two should be near the top:
Aguila Interceptor 40gr @1470 fps and 195ft/lb Aguila Supermaximum 30gr @1700fps and 193ft/lb Both have slightly more energy than Stingers (4ft/lb and 2ft/lb respectively). Good luck finding either because I haven't been able to find them for 5+ years. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:12:19 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: These two should be near the top: Aguila Interceptor 40gr @1470 fps and 195ft/lb Aguila Supermaximum 30gr @1700fps and 193ft/lb Both have slightly more energy than Stingers (4ft/lb and 2ft/lb respectively). Good luck finding either because I haven't been able to find them for 5+ years. Velocitors are 40 @ 1435 |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:12:48 PM EDT
[#25]
.22 for self defense..LOL
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:15:33 PM EDT
[#26]
Put 'em in an A180, I imagine most any would do if you hit 'em 40 or 50 times.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:15:43 PM EDT
[#27]
Out of a pistol I don’t think any will expand but I’m voting for Velocitor.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:16:30 PM EDT
[#28]
Early this year I bought an LCP II in .22LR mainly because I wanted a pistol that would fit in a swimsuit or workout shorts pocket. I was going to get a .380, but there was no ammo anywhere to be found and I had a pile of .22.
CCI Mini Mags have been perfect so far and it’s what I carry. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:18:03 PM EDT
[#29]
Looks like the best I have of super sonic .22 may be these yellow jackets.
 I have good supply of cheap stuff for her to practice with. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:19:17 PM EDT
[#30]
22LR Beehive
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:20:27 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: .22 for self defense..LOL You wouldn't LOL if someone shot you with a .22 would you? |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:22:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 9mm 
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:22:28 PM EDT
[#33]
.22 HP is the best short range sniper round of all time, any of them work well if you can hit the head. If you can't you better have a big dog or something a little more stout.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:24:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .22 for self defense..LOL 1. The presence of a gun stops the majority of bad encounters. 2. Bad guys rarely opt to stick around for a gun fight. 3. People carrying a gun for self defense are not required to chase down the bad guy and put them behind bars. They simply need to break contact. 3. A gun that someone is comfortable with beats a deadlier caliber they are afraid of or incapable of shooting accurately. 4. .22 has a sizable body count attached to it. lol |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:24:43 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Velocitor |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:25:45 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: CCI Stinger or any of the other hyper-velocity offerings. MAKE CERTAIN whatever she chooses will load, shoot and eject from her gun. Try to get her to run at least a hundred (preferably two hundred) rounds through it to vet the ammo/gun combination, learn to confidently hit a bad-guy size target at practical distances and learn to load and empty her gun efficiently. Please start with the FOUR ABSOLUTES of safe gun handling. Can’t run a slide or semi and we’re worried about reloading a wheel gun? Doesn’t seem practical to me |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:27:37 PM EDT
[#37]
I’d use Stingers.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:28:02 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryShe's shot my MAC10/9 MG before without issues but it's a bit heavier. This is a stepping stone. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:29:29 PM EDT
[#39]
Winchester 42gr Subsonic
 The Ultimate 22 Ballistic High Speed Slomo Video |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:30:21 PM EDT
[#40]
10mm jhp identifing as a .22lr
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:32:19 PM EDT
[#41]
Stinger.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:37:58 PM EDT
[#42]
A case of Lapua X-Act match grade 22lr
Because it's pricy, and if you had some you could sell it for good money and buy a better gun. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:44:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI have a case+ of the AE 45gr suppressor. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:44:18 PM EDT
[#44]
Forget the Federal Punch. The boxes I shot were standard velocity, 1070 fps. Not sure what the point is.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:46:14 PM EDT
[#45]
Federal GameShok has a decent punch for a 40gr bullet.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:48:01 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol insraelis did some work with .22’s. Also that gangbanger killed that cop with a glock in .22. .22’s absolutely can kill people. It just sucks at it. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:49:22 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A case of Lapua X-Act match grade 22lr Because it's pricy, and if you had some you could sell it for good money and buy a better gun. GTFO '21er You can't even spell and have zero clue how much a prelock 317 goes for these days. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:51:05 PM EDT
[#48]
Stinger, Velocitor or Aguila SuperMax
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:55:21 PM EDT
[#49]
OP, ignore the peanut gallery. My wife carries a .22lr Ruger LCR loaded with Velocitors.
I’ve been carrying an LCP II in .22 on and off. I have seen plenty of dead people who were ended with a .22 and none of them complained. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:56:29 PM EDT
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