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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:10:49 AM EDT
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That is obviously Constitutional.....
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:11:28 AM EDT
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Didn't think it could be possible but NY is about 87 times harder than NJ.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:13:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:13:27 AM EDT
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last I checked it was 5 references in your county.
tough for a hermit. 
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:14:08 AM EDT
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And people bitch about IL?
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:15:26 AM EDT
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socialists destroy everything they touch.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:15:38 AM EDT
[#7]
 Fuck no. It's not even that bad where I am on Long Island |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:16:00 AM EDT
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Or just steal one from a law abiding citizen like the criminals do.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:16:13 AM EDT
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Or just talk to the right people in the right neighborhoods and you can get a handgun in a day. It might be a little warm and lacking numbers, but its a way faster process.
Laws don't affect criminals. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:17:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't think it could be possible but NY is about 87 times harder than NJ. After reading that I almost feel free. Almost. 
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:18:20 AM EDT
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Started the process in upstate NY when I lived there for a 2 year work contract in the 90s.
I did not start right away. Completed the class, lined up references (IIRC, it was 4 references in Buffalo), was ready to file for the court date to appear before a judge. Did not complete the process before I moved away. They make it difficult as a deterrent. As a deterrent, the process works well.  Would have been easier for me, since my Glock was staying out of state with my parents the whole entire time. I was really just asking permission to bring my handgun into the state. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:18:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: last I checked it was 5 references in your county. tough for a hermit. My info/experience is about 10 years old, before the Safe Act. I’m sure its worse now. Only lived there a couple years and left as soon as I could. Funny part was when I was there, that was the process for a handgun. I went to a gun store and bought an AR-15 in 20 minutes with 30rd “pre-ban” mags. Had to wait months and jump through 30 hoops for a handgun though. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:18:56 AM EDT
[#13]
If only Voting registration took that long.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:19:07 AM EDT
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Want to buy firearms in a free state.
Go to gun store. Choose firearms you want to purchase. Fill out 4473. Clerk verifies info from DL. Clerk then calls in the federal NICS check (takes less than 3 minutes). Pay clerk and walk out with everything you bought. Buying one or many, handguns or long guns… won’t change the process. Can be in and out of the store in as little as 10 minutes. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:19:20 AM EDT
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Born and raised in NY. Left in 1991. Zero regrets.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:20:27 AM EDT
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I just go to the store, complete a 4473, wait a few mins for the approval, and walk it with it same day.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:20:39 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is obviously Constitutional..... +1 Agreed! There should also be a 5-month waiting period for abortions. 
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:20:47 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck no. It's not even that bad where I am on Long Island Yeah buddy gonna have to call bullshit on your call of bullshit. Thats the process I went through. Feel free to attempt to challenge any point in my OP though. @Mech2007 |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:21:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My info/experience is about 10 years old, before the Safe Act. I’m sure its worse now. Only lived there a couple years and left as soon as I could. Funny part was when I was there, that was the process for a handgun. I went to a gun store and bought an AR-15 in 20 minutes with 30rd “pre-ban” mags. Had to wait months and jump through 30 hoops for a handgun though. OP was this Westchester county |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:22:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If only Voting registration took that long. 
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:22:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And people bitch about IL? I was just ready to post this exact sentiment. Grew up in upstate NY and had a couple hand me down BP Pistols but wasn't legally able to take them out of the house. Clown show NY is although I'm sure IL legislature would outdo them if they get the chance. Now in IL and much of the contents of my safe would be illegal in NY. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:23:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP was this Westchester county Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My info/experience is about 10 years old, before the Safe Act. I’m sure its worse now. Only lived there a couple years and left as soon as I could. Funny part was when I was there, that was the process for a handgun. I went to a gun store and bought an AR-15 in 20 minutes with 30rd “pre-ban” mags. Had to wait months and jump through 30 hoops for a handgun though. OP was this Westchester county Albany county. @MrHold |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:25:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was just ready to post this exact sentiment. Grew up in upstate NY and had a couple hand me down BP Pistols but wasn't legally able to take them out of the house. Clown show NY is although I'm sure IL legislature would outdo them if they get the chance. Now in IL and much of the contents of my safe would be illegal in NY. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And people bitch about IL? I was just ready to post this exact sentiment. Grew up in upstate NY and had a couple hand me down BP Pistols but wasn't legally able to take them out of the house. Clown show NY is although I'm sure IL legislature would outdo them if they get the chance. Now in IL and much of the contents of my safe would be illegal in NY. Yeah, but just because NY sucks worse doesn't mean IL doesn't suck, too. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:26:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah buddy gonna have to call bullshit on your call of bullshit. Thats the process I went through. Feel free to attempt to challenge any point in my OP though. @Mech2007 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fuck no. It's not even that bad where I am on Long Island Yeah buddy gonna have to call bullshit on your call of bullshit. Thats the process I went through. Feel free to attempt to challenge any point in my OP though. @Mech2007 Although I left before trying to navigate that mess, I know a dozen guys with NY permits and I've heard exact same horror stories as Empire describes. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:26:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was just ready to post this exact sentiment. Grew up in upstate NY and had a couple hand me down BP Pistols but wasn't legally able to take them out of the house. Clown show NY is although I'm sure IL legislature would outdo them if they get the chance. Now in IL and much of the contents of my safe would be illegal in NY. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And people bitch about IL? I was just ready to post this exact sentiment. Grew up in upstate NY and had a couple hand me down BP Pistols but wasn't legally able to take them out of the house. Clown show NY is although I'm sure IL legislature would outdo them if they get the chance. Now in IL and much of the contents of my safe would be illegal in NY. The FOID is bullshit and the 3-day wait for handguns. However the $10 for a FOID that is good for 10 years is better than a lot of states. We talk shit about IL and Chicago, rightfully so, but IL is “shall-issue” and you can ccw in Chicago. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:27:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Albany county. @MrHold Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: My info/experience is about 10 years old, before the Safe Act. I’m sure its worse now. Only lived there a couple years and left as soon as I could. Funny part was when I was there, that was the process for a handgun. I went to a gun store and bought an AR-15 in 20 minutes with 30rd “pre-ban” mags. Had to wait months and jump through 30 hoops for a handgun though. OP was this Westchester county Albany county. @MrHold And when you get over the limit they want to inspect your home for a safe ( I forget the number of firearm's) |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:28:34 AM EDT
[#27]
Sounds like a whole lot of infringing to me.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:29:02 AM EDT
[#28]
Almost a year and a half from my application to when they called me to schedule a meeting with the judge.
By then I had moved. I literally told the deputy that called me to trash the application, I wasn’t moving back, ever. This was back in 2004-2005 timeframe, Monroe Co NY. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:29:04 AM EDT
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I thought this thread was going to be about how most people buy their handguns in NY. The use of these handguns are in the news most days…mid-day shootouts in the streets.
If they forgot their handguns they just push you onto the subway tracks. What a place to live.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:30:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, but just because NY sucks worse doesn't mean IL doesn't suck, too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And people bitch about IL? I was just ready to post this exact sentiment. Grew up in upstate NY and had a couple hand me down BP Pistols but wasn't legally able to take them out of the house. Clown show NY is although I'm sure IL legislature would outdo them if they get the chance. Now in IL and much of the contents of my safe would be illegal in NY. Yeah, but just because NY sucks worse doesn't mean IL doesn't suck, too. Absolutely, which is why I included the part in bold. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:31:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Want to buy firearms in a free state. Go to gun store. Choose firearms you want to purchase. Fill out 4473. Clerk verifies info from DL. Clerk then calls in the federal NICS check (takes less than 3 minutes). Pay clerk and walk out with everything you bought. Buying one or many, handguns or long guns… won’t change the process. Can be in and out of the store in as little as 10 minutes. We go one step further. Have a CHL they don't even call. I've bought a gun in about 3mins. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:32:35 AM EDT
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Quoted: In case you all were wondering, this is what it takes to purchase a handgun in NY state. Its from memory and I’m missing a few steps but you get the idea. 1. Find/schedule appointment to take pistol safety course. 2. Pay/attend pistol training/safety course at state approved club. 3. Find local place to get fingerprinted (usually at a police station that only does it on certain days/times). 4. Get pictures done to submit on application. 5. Drop off application, filled out, with 3 references that live in NY. 6. County sends references letters to be filled out and returned. 7. County sends out notice that everything was turned in, schedules court date. 8. Wait for court date, show up and speak to a judge who will ask questions and determine if you get a permit and what/if any restrictions are on it. Most are restricted for hunting/target practice only. (Judge I saw said he didn’t give unrestricted permits, even to police officers/retired police officers. 9. Wait for judges ruling. 10. Notified of ruling by county clerk by mail. 11. Pick up permit from county clerk. 12. Bring permit to gun store…..you can now touch a gun in NY! 13. “Buy” your gun. Paperwork gets filled out at the store and sent to county clerk. 14. County clerk receives your purchase paperwork and schedules court date. 15. Go to court, get called up to speak to judge for purchase. 16. Judge approves and sends paperwork back to county clerk. 17. County clerk notifies you by mail, purchase form approved. 18. Go to county clerk to pick up your purchase form. 19. Take purchase form to the gun store to pick up your gun. Rinse and repeat from step 13 on for every purchase. I want to say from the time I started until had the purchase in my possession was 5 months.  ...
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:33:59 AM EDT
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What county is that? I’m on LI too and it’s nowhere as bad as that.
Getting the CCW is complicated and has a prolonged wait, but purchasing involves 2 visits to the pistol bureau and 2 visits to the store. The worst part is forgetting the $5 money order so they put gun on your permit. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:35:09 AM EDT
[#34]
I forgot the crazy thing
When I moved to CT I get a letter on how I transferred the guns to CT andI have so many days to surrender the physical paper permit I carry in my wallet to the county police |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:35:40 AM EDT
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last gun I bought was an HK45c
I went in the store and asked to look at one. Clerk tried to hand it to me. I threw my arms up and yelled 'stop the high pressure sales! I will take it.' Handed the guy my CC and DL and CCW permit was out the door 3 minutes later. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:36:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If only Voting registration took that long. Voting is not a constitutional right, but guns are. Every restriction on guns should apply to voting. Want voting to be easy? Make it easy ho exercise 2nd amendment rights. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:36:12 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Want to buy firearms in a free state. Go to gun store. Choose firearms you want to purchase. Fill out 4473. Clerk verifies info from DL. Clerk then calls in the federal NICS check (takes less than 3 minutes). Pay clerk and walk out with everything you bought. Buying one or many, handguns or long guns… won’t change the process. Can be in and out of the store in as little as 10 minutes. Free state? LOL. What is this NICS check you speak of and wait 3 minute for? I just hand the FFL my CCW, fill out 4473 and walk out with my gun. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:36:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely, which is why I included the part in bold. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And people bitch about IL? I was just ready to post this exact sentiment. Grew up in upstate NY and had a couple hand me down BP Pistols but wasn't legally able to take them out of the house. Clown show NY is although I'm sure IL legislature would outdo them if they get the chance. Now in IL and much of the contents of my safe would be illegal in NY. Yeah, but just because NY sucks worse doesn't mean IL doesn't suck, too. Absolutely, which is why I included the part in bold. I meant to quote miss Marie's post. You're definitely right. Thankfully the rest of the state outside of Chicago has had a few small wins over the years and have kept the northern shitholers somewhat at bay. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:37:37 AM EDT
[#39]
I have no idea wtf you are talking about.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:38:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What county is that? I’m on LI too and it’s nowhere as bad as that. Getting the CCW is complicated and has a prolonged wait, but purchasing involves 2 visits to the pistol bureau and 2 visits to the store. The worst part is forgetting the $5 money order so they put gun on your permit. OP is Albany county. I'm Westchester County |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:38:41 AM EDT
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Quoted: In case you all were wondering, this is what it takes to purchase a handgun in NY state. Its from memory and I'm missing a few steps but you get the idea. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:39:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't think it could be possible but NY is about 87 times harder than NJ. gee, not that hard here in IL. Of course, we have the FOID, and the State Police are about a year and a half behind processing applications, but we don't have to go before a magistrate, judge, as long as we have our card we're good to go. Not Constitutional at all but not nearly as difficult. Note, a bit different in Chitcago. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:39:38 AM EDT
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Just to say FUCK NY I may go by a Beretta and a book mybe American Marxist before lunch.
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:39:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck no. It's not even that bad where I am on Long Island Yeah Suffolk here, not sure wtf this guy is talking about or where the hell he is located. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:39:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:40:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Laws don't affect criminals. 
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:40:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What county is that? I’m on LI too and it’s nowhere as bad as that. Getting the CCW is complicated and has a prolonged wait, but purchasing involves 2 visits to the pistol bureau and 2 visits to the store. The worst part is forgetting the $5 money order so they put gun on your permit. Albany. What is a pistol bureau? In Albany county, you had to wait for a court date for every purchase to get a judge to sign the form and send it back to the county clerk. Once you have the permit, to buy it was… “Buy” at gun store. Gun store sends paperwork to county clerk. County clerk schedules court hearing with judge. Show up to court hearing, speak to judge, get new purchase signed off on. Judge sends paperwork back to county clerk County clerk notifies you the paperwork is ready. Show up at county clerk for paperwork. Bring paperwork to gun store to pick up handgun. For every single handgun purchase. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:41:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah Suffolk here, not sure wtf this guy is talking about or where the hell he is located. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fuck no. It's not even that bad where I am on Long Island Yeah Suffolk here, not sure wtf this guy is talking about or where the hell he is located. It seems like a mashup of NY State and NYC. Except, I don’t think it’s legal anyplace in NY to take a handgun training course without a handgun permit… since touching a pistol while unlicensed is considered a crime. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:44:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Albany. What is a pistol bureau? In Albany county, you had to wait for a court date for every purchase to get a judge to sign the form and send it back to the county clerk. Once you have the permit, to buy it was… “Buy” at gun store. Gun store sends paperwork to county clerk. County clerk schedules court hearing with judge. Show up to court hearing, speak to judge, get new purchase signed off on. Judge sends paperwork back to county clerk County clerk notifies you the paperwork is ready. Show up at county clerk for paperwork. Bring paperwork to gun store to pick up handgun. For every single handgun purchase. This is about the same process I had to go threw in 1980, never had to be interviewed by the Judge he just signed off on the paper work |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 11:44:44 AM EDT
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Pass
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