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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:07:36 PM EDT
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He may have been correct, but he would still be a free man living in his cabin if he hadn’t mailed all those bombs out.
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:09:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He may have been correct, but he would still be a free man living in his cabin if he hadn’t mailed all those bombs out. True. But none of us would have heard of him. (I’m not saying that would have been a bad thing) |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:10:22 PM EDT
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I've never read his entire manifesto, just the bullet points that seem to agree with my take on society. I've heard it goes off the rails though.
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:13:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He may have been correct, but he would still be a free man living in his cabin if he hadn’t mailed all those bombs out. Yep... the guy was smarter than hell... it's too bad he didn't apply that toward more productive solutions. I worked in an office that had been targeted by one of his bombs. Years later, a friend found out that one of his neighbors at his cabin property was the Unabomber. Small world.... |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:17:02 PM EDT
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Just another victim of the CIA.
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:17:58 PM EDT
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His message may have been right, but killing and wounding innocents isn’t the way to get your point across.
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:18:02 PM EDT
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Can't say I ever read his manifesto. The guy has some interesting ideas. A madman sometimes is just someone who's ahead of his time.
Thus science marches on blindly, without regard to the real welfare of the human race or to any other standard, obedient only to the psychological needs of the scientists and of the government officials and corporation executives who provide the funds for research. Looking at you Fauci |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:29:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:30:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just another victim of the CIA. Look just because In his second year at Harvard, Kaczynski participated in a purposely brutalizing psychological experiment as part of project MK ultra ran by the CIA There is no evidence that this had any effect on him at all. Just pure coincidence. You’ll be telling me next there were more than one person in the van and one of them was a German spy who was just let off to go back to Germany a free man. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:32:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He may have been correct, but he would still be a free man living in his cabin if he hadn’t mailed all those bombs out. Yep. A better route would have been constant public announcements, Op Eds, a constant pounding of his views on every venue available at the time. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:33:55 PM EDT
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It's one thing to be a prophet. Totally different animal to hurt people. Fuck that guy.
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:35:43 PM EDT
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"Industrial Society and its Future" is a thought provoking read.
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:35:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He may have been correct, but he would still be a free man living in his cabin if he hadn’t mailed all those bombs out. Well, you can’t eat your cake and have it too. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:36:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: … No, he even planted a bomb on a commercial 727 flight from Chicago to Washington DC that failed to detonate, had it done so it would have destroyed the plane in flight. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:36:59 PM EDT
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Wasn’t he a communist or socialist?
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:41:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn't he a communist or socialist? |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:44:48 PM EDT
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I hate it when the nutjobs turn out to be right.
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:46:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He may have been correct, but he would still be a free man living in his cabin if his brother didn't turn him in. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:46:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never read his entire manifesto, just the bullet points that seem to agree with my take on society. I've heard it goes off the rails though. It does go off the rails but there is some truly interesting stuff in it. I don’t sit at red lights on abandoned streets in the middle of the night anymore. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:47:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate it when the nutjobs turn out to be right. Alex Jones |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:48:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate it when the nutjobs turn out to be right. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:48:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His message may have been right, but killing and wounding innocents isn’t the way to get your point across. he had that in common with mcveigh and arguably eric rudolph |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 6:50:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, you can't eat your cake and have it too.  |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:03:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, you can’t eat your cake and have it too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He may have been correct, but he would still be a free man living in his cabin if he hadn’t mailed all those bombs out. Well, you can’t eat your cake and have it too. That’s the line his brother recognized and tipped off the FBI |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:04:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: he had that in common with mcveigh and arguably eric rudolph Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: His message may have been right, but killing and wounding innocents isn’t the way to get your point across. he had that in common with mcveigh and arguably eric rudolph Innocents were killed, but one could argue there is a difference between intentionally targeting innocents and innocents being killed as collateral damage. McVeigh was targeting the folks that massacred people at Waco. Rudolph was targeting those that killed innocents. While Kaczynski targeted people who seemed to involved somewhat with industry and technology, I think his primary intention was to grab attention not to actually affect change himself. Kaczynski was is probably the smarter of those three, but I'd argue he was more amoral in his actions. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:04:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just another victim of the CIA. Yup. Pretty sad really. But killing innocent people is never ok. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:05:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He may have been correct, but he would still be a free man living in his cabin if he hadn't mailed all those bombs out. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:08:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. Pretty sad really. But killing innocent people is never ok. Murdering innocents is a sin.  Christianity and Atomic Bombs - AC078 |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:11:28 PM EDT
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You didn’t read it correctly.
Ted is an environmental leftist wacko. While in prison, he has been in communication and visited by Antifa and has advised them on their tactics. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:16:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:17:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate it when the nutjobs turn out to be right. To the leftists, we are the nutjobs, remember? |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:30:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the line his brother recognized and tipped off the FBI  |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:34:56 PM EDT
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Everyone wants to fight the forces of darkness and evil -but also not hurt anyone.
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:38:01 PM EDT
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I watched a documentary where he was interviewed and he admitted to hating children.
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:39:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:39:21 PM EDT
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Its been a while since I read it, but recall thinking that Ted made some good points and some silly points but his jump to concluding that sending bombs was justified was just crazy. Like, 2^4= 8 crazy.
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:42:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate it when the nutjobs turn out to be right. LOL....At least Alex Jones hasn't killed anyone.....Well, that I know of.  
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:44:44 PM EDT
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IBTL. Verboten subject.
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:45:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:47:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never read his entire manifesto, just the bullet points that seem to agree with my take on society. I've heard it goes off the rails though. It's written like it's a technical manual. Lots of odd bullet points. Tough to make it through the entire read Guy was crazy smart, but he's not the first to advocate the luddite life. . . He was the first to send mail bombs out as a form of advocacy for it though lol |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:54:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I watched a documentary where he was interviewed and he admitted to hating children. Screen name? |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 7:56:33 PM EDT
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Bought this recently, haven’t got around to reading it, mostly cause I’ve heard it’s depressingly accurate. Im sure I’m on some list now, since I ordered it on Amazon.
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Posted: 9/27/2021 8:03:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its been a while since I read it, but recall thinking that Ted made some good points and some silly points but his jump to concluding that sending bombs was justified was just crazy. Like, 2^4= 8 crazy. It also made his message easy to discard as toxic, he gave the left some talking points to point to whether he realized it at the time or not. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 8:06:18 PM EDT
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On a similar note but without discussing Ted, I was listening to a theological lecture after a run last month.
The speaker opined we are both better off and worse from modern science. Tl;Dr follows: - Science moved slow early because early thinkers contemplated why. Put simply, we can't just find an antibiotic, because we need to know why it works. - This sucked because we can't always understand everything. So moving to a cause and effect science based approach was key. "This item seems to combat infection." brought us into a great period of huge discovery. - Now we never consider why and are comfortable hearing drug ads that even mention "This drug does X, but we don't even know how." Long story short he didn't even have an opinion, he was just making an observation. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 8:08:28 PM EDT
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He didn't just hate liberals...
“The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently it never occurs to them that you can't make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values.” |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 8:10:19 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: His message may have been right, but killing and wounding innocents isn’t the way to get your point across. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 8:14:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He didn't just hate liberals... “The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently it never occurs to them that you can't make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values.” Yep. |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 8:16:51 PM EDT
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As another aside I saw a funny meme a few years ago about AnPrivs but I don't remember it fully.
It was like a guy getting chased by a tiger but he's not allowed glasses or a firearm so that's the way it goes lol |
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Posted: 9/27/2021 8:20:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As another aside I saw a funny meme a few years ago about AnPrivs but I don't remember it fully. It was like a guy getting chased by a tiger but he's not allowed glasses or a firearm so that's the way it goes lol Lololol  I found it. 
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Posted: 9/27/2021 8:20:53 PM EDT
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The only real fault I could find in Industrial Society and it’s Future was the idea that mankind would ever let go of any of its technological advances and revert to a pre industrial revolution state. The very idea that it was possible seemed naive to me. I always felt that his assessment of our immediate needs being easily met and searching for purpose through surrogate activities hit the nail on the head 100%. Should be required reading. Anyone who dismisses his writings based on his crimes likely hasn’t read any of his stuff.
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