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Posted: 5/24/2001 5:51:40 PM EDT
I live kinda by this school, this kid is a fool, and they started training them at a young age.  Wait, when he gets out of his school, and get a job, and sees how much they take in taxes, then maybe he will learn.  
Or maybe if they taught the Consitution for once.
c-rock
[url]www.illinois-shooter.org[/url]

Start with guns

Tamar A. Rubin
May 19, 2001
Skokie -- I am a junior at Niles North High School. Upon walking into school April 20, I was faced with a wall of teachers and security guards with metal detectors, which they waved over entering students and their backpacks, searching for weapons.

This heightened security was in response to a threat of violence made by a student, promising to make April 20, the anniversary of Columbine, a bloody day at Niles North. We had been informed of the threat the day before, and throughout both Thursday and Friday, a feeling of tension and fear buzzed throughout school. It will probably never dissipate entirely.

When Columbine occurred, I was a freshman, and I assured myself that my school was different, that a shooting would never happen there. I never felt unsafe in my school until April 19 of this year. And there is only one reason for this fear: guns.

There is a wealth of issues that have been brought up when blame is passed around for school shootings--lack of school security, bullies, cliques, movies, songs, video games--the list goes on and on. But shock rocker Marilyn Manson didn't kill the students at Columbine or Santee, Calif., or anywhere else. They were killed by bullets.

The National Rifle Association can wax poetic on the right to bear arms, but cannot dispute the fact that none of those kids would be dead today if the shooters hadn't been able to get guns, which are now so frighteningly obtainable. If kids couldn't get guns, then the "bad influence" of TV violence, which politicians love to scapegoat, would be a moot point. Support entertainment industry reform, support Internet regulation, rally for better-prepared police and security--fine. But ignoring the most immediately important measure--gun control--is not only ludicrous, it's offensive. It's offensive to the memories of the victims of past shootings, and it's offensive to the students at my high school and every school in America that has had to juggle the desire to keep students safe with the effort not to convert schools into prisons.

If a shooter comes into my U.S. history class, a V-chip isn't going to do much.

I don't disagree that the factors that build up to the desire to commit violence need to be remedied as well. But millions of teachers, parents and students would certainly appreciate it if politicians started with guns. I know I would.



Link Posted: 5/24/2001 5:57:21 PM EDT
[#1]
A V-chip might not protect you from a shooter, but the Israelis sure proved that M16s and Uzis in the hands of the teachers really cuts down on shooters. [uzi]

Kharn
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 5:57:49 PM EDT
[#2]
ACHTUNG! Adolf Hitler once said, "Give me the schools, and in a generation I will have the nation............"   You guys who like to read really need to read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.  Those who do not know their own history shall be condemned to repeat it..........Editing for spelling.
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 6:12:14 PM EDT
[#3]
That's sad.  Perhaps little Tamar Rubin and all of Niles North would benefit from a visit to the JPFO web site.  They seem to have forgotton that GUNS could be a pretty good defense against Genocide and Democide!

From an interview with a holocost survivor on the JPFO site:

Q.) Did the camp inmates ever bring up the topic, "If only we were armed before, we would not be here now"?

A.) Many, many times. Before Adolph Hitler came to power, there was a black market in firearms, but the German people had been so conditioned to be law abiding, that they would never consider buying an unregistered gun. The German people really believed that only hoodlums own such guns. What fools we were. It truly frightens me to see how the government, media, and some police groups in America are pushing for the same mindset. In my opinion, the people of America had better start asking and demanding answers to some hard questions about firearms ownership, especially if the government does not trust me to own firearms, why or how can the people be expected to trust the government?

There is no doubt in my mind that millions of lives could have been saved if the people were not "brainwashed" about gun ownership and had been well armed. Hitler's thugs and goons were not very brave when confronted by a gun. Gun haters always want to forget the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, which is a perfect example of how a ragtag, half starved group of Jews took up 10 handguns and made asses out of the Nazis.


Link Posted: 5/24/2001 6:17:30 PM EDT
[#4]
Suppose Dylan & Eric were unable to obtain guns. Suppose they had spent their time working on their "BOMBS" and getting them right. Then the deaths would have been magnified ten fold.
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 6:18:40 PM EDT
[#5]
Hey Tamar,
I have a question for Tamar. First what kind of a fucking rag head name is Tamar. I bet Tamar's mother's dream date would be a gang bang staring herself Jesse Jackson, Bill Clinton , and Ted Kennedy. Little bastards Like Tamar are what is wrong with the USA. They think the government owes them something. When Tamars brutha's stopp killing each other in the streets then we won't have a problem. But guns are not the problem at all. Tamars Brutha's in Africa do just fine killing each other with knives,rocks, and anything else they can get. Whats next Tamar,you want to outlaw assault Knives,or maybe assault sticks.
This Tamar kid is a product of media brainwashing. He is not old enough to have an opinion. Let him work and contribute his tax money for awhile. Then he might have a right to say something. He is just a stupid kid who hasn't got a clue about life.
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 6:23:15 PM EDT
[#6]
Sportsman, my guess is that he is Jewish which makes his little diatribe even more pathetic in the context of my quote.  He REALLY should know better!

Originally Posted By SPORTSMANS SUPPLY:
Hey Tamar,
I have a question for Tamar. First what kind of a fucking rag head name is Tamar. I bet Tamar's mother's dream date would be a gang bang staring herself Jesse Jackson, Bill Clinton , and Ted Kennedy. Little bastards Like Tamar are what is wrong with the USA. They think the government owes them something. When Tamars brutha's stopp killing each other in the streets then we won't have a problem. But guns are not the problem at all. Tamars Brutha's in Africa do just fine killing each other with knives,rocks, and anything else they can get. Whats next Tamar,you want to outlaw assault Knives,or maybe assault sticks.
This Tamar kid is a product of media brainwashing. He is not old enough to have an opinion. Let him work and contribute his tax money for awhile. Then he might have a right to say something. He is just a stupid kid who hasn't got a clue about life.
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Link Posted: 5/24/2001 6:35:52 PM EDT
[#7]
Hell I figured Tamar was a Rag head name. I'm not a Jewbasher by any means. If he is Jewish he is really a sad case. I think the Jews in the Middle East are some Ass kickin dudes. They know what happens when you let the wolf in the door. I hope they blow Yaser Arafat straight to Hell or wherever it is Ragheads go when they get killed
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 6:41:02 PM EDT
[#8]
Raghead, Jewish, Black, White -- one thing for sure, he is an honorary member of the Brotherhood of Common Stupidity!

Originally Posted By SPORTSMANS SUPPLY:
Hell I figured Tamar was a Rag head name. I'm not a Jewbasher by any means. If he is Jewish he is really a sad case. I think the Jews in the Middle East are some Ass kickin dudes. They know what happens when you let the wolf in the door. I hope they blow Yaser Arafat straight to Hell or wherever it is Ragheads go when they get killed
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Link Posted: 5/24/2001 6:52:28 PM EDT
[#9]
First off public schools do not teach our kids to be smart enough to write a detailed letter such as this. So that means only one thing somebody from one of those antigun groups wrote this letter and is passing it off as the work of a high schooler. And if this was found out to be true, we would get the "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN" line of crap!
Link Posted: 5/24/2001 6:53:18 PM EDT
[#10]
If war ever comes to this country, that dipshit will be on the side where one guy gets a junky, POS old rifle and his partner gets the 5 bullets (like in Enemy at the Gates).  Neither one will know what the fuck to do with it and neither one will be likely to live through the day.  Poor Tamar is not being well-served by his socialist handlers.

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