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06-27-2022 - jovan pulitzer paper analysis p 68
04-04-2022 raffensperger issued 4 subpoenas for information after ignoring truethevote for a year.... problem is, there was a person that was lead counsel for abram's group that would get the name of the whistleblower, if ttv complies... p65 04-04-2022 charles kirk talks to dinesh d'sousza about the truethevote info - says he saw the evidence and saw harvesters visiting abram's offices between ballot drops... nightly - page 62 03-01-2022 Dispite speaker vos attempts to derail the investigation into wisconsin election fraud by gableman, gableman presented an interim report in a hearing today, reccommending the election be decertified not a good summary of what happened in the hearing has been found yet, but a link to the report is on page 60 02-11-2022 Feds want to supress both full and redacted reports that dominion machines have vulnerabilities and are hackable, because they don't want others to know what the vulnerabilities are p59 or https://apnews.com/article/technology-georgia-atlanta-voting-elections-d4543623099fea5bf3633d0913532c11 01/28/2022 PA state court ruled that the no excuse mail in voter law was unconstitutional. article P58, likely to be put on hold while appealed to PA supreme court by the governor 01/12/22 raffensperger to be interviews on john fredericks show, links p57 01/04/22 - raffensperger openning investigation into reports of ballot harvesting and collussion, reports made by truethevote from back in august - page 57 dec - various reports of investigations going on page 57 12/08 - wisconsin state hearing on voter rolls, too many discrepencies such as over 120,000 ACTIVE voters who have been registered to vote for more than 100 years, etc. too many to to list, thanks to DaGoose for finding video see p55 11/19 update 12/2 kemp has his own office do investigation into claims available (as not all information that is suppose to be available has been provided) fulton county data doesn't match their reported numbers from prior audits.... kemp's office finds the fulton county information and numbers can't be vaildated, as they don't match and fulton county and calls for state investigation page 55 11/09 - voter ga has determined all in person ballot images are missing in fulton county, and 74 counties are also missing ballot images and more p54 10/13 - georgia judge amero throws out garland favorito request to examine absentee ballots for lack of injury and had no standing, after hearing from georgia investigators no evidence of fraud exist p53 10/07 - house oversight hearing sham - maricopa admits they deleted data from machines before turning them over to senate audit team. they claim they 'archived' the data, and did not turn over the 'archived' data because it was not directly requested - p52 9/23 - texas sos announces request for forensic audit of 4 counties - dallas, harris, tarrant, and collin for the 2929 election - page 46 9/22 - Maricopa county supervisor chucri resigns after recordings of him doubting authenticity of election leaked and posted at the gateway pundit. other recordings to follow - page 46 9/17 maricopa county had a late, special hearing on the charges they violated arizona law and were under threat of losing millions in funding as a result, as well as possible misdemeanor charges and prison time. it appears they caved to the arizona senate subpeona, and will be providing access to routers, logs, and other material they had been refusing to provide. see page 44 title was AZ audit - maricopa county tells senate f* you- AZ Audit Hearing Fri Sept 24 1pm 9/16 senator rogers announces hearing for az audit results Fri Sept 24 1pm 9/08 - liz harris put out a report today on findings of a volunteer arizona canvas, more on page 40 9/03 - truethevote to release video soon of ballot harvesting - stories page 40 8/30 - colorado sos blocks any audit, dekalb county chain of custody problems page 40 8/21 mastriano had tried to start a pennsylvania audit, it has been blocked by corman, with corman saying it's problems with mastriano and mastriano is no longer doing one see page 38 for posts aeroworksxp clips from lindell event https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/AZ-audit-maricopa-county-tells-senate-f-you-az-audit-draft-being-prepared/5-2475195/?page=32#i94234212 data analysis by seek2 regarding arizona voting patterns https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/AZ-audit-maricopa-county-tells-senate-f-you-az-audit-draft-being-prepared/5-2475195/?page=28#i94198695 https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/AZ-audit-maricopa-county-tells-senate-f-you-fulton-co-ga-election-chief-resigns/5-2475195/?page=36#i94274101 https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/AZ-audit-maricopa-county-tells-senate-f-you-fulton-co-ga-election-chief-resigns/5-2475195/?r=-1&page=37&anc=94323664#i94307712 8-17 az audit draft being prepared, to be presented to az senate for review before release https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/AZ-audit-maricopa-county-tells-senate-f-you-fulton-co-ga-election-chief-resigns/5-2475195/?r=-1&page=37&anc=94323664#i94338799 8-15 Georgia Fulton County Elections Chief Ralph Jones Resigns He Ran the Late Night Ballot Dump Operation in Atlanta https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/AZ-audit-maricopa-county-tells-senate-f-you-8-2-borrelli-files-AG-complaint-Wisc-issues-subpoenas/5-2475195/?page=37#i94298990 ------------------------ maricopa refuses to provide material despite az senate subpoena PHOENIX Maricopa County officials said Monday they refuse to turn over routers sought by the Arizona Senate and questioned the validity of Republican lawmakers' latest subpoena related to the contentious 2020 election audit. Senate President Karen Fann and Judiciary Committee Chairman Warren Petersen issued the subpoena July 26 and gave the state's largest county one week to produce the network routers and traffic logs, envelopes from all mail-in ballots or images of them, certain voter registration records with change histories, and records related security breaches. "The board has real work to do and little time to entertain this adventure in never-never land. Please finish whatever it is that you are doing and release whatever it is you are going to release," Chairman Jack Sellers, one of four Republicans on the five-member Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, wrote in a letter accompanying Monday's response to the subpoena. .... View Quote "Furthermore, the Maricopa County EMS (election management system) is not, and never has been, connected to the Internet; therefore, nothing related to the EMS is on the routers. So there's nothing to gain and far too much potential harm to risk removing all of the county's routers and producing them to the Senate's designees hired for the purpose of examining the Maricopa County EMS," the document says. The item-by-item response is followed by a list of 11 objections that challenged the validity of the subpoena. View Quote https://ktar.com/story/4605193/maricopa-county-defiantly-responds-to-arizona-senates-audit-subpoena/ the arizona senate is currently out of session, and doesn't have the votes to hold maricopa in contempt because there have been 2 gop, including ugenti-rita who is running to be the next secretary of state in charge of elections, that refuse to investigate the election or support legislation to improve election integrity so what is next? there is suppose to be a canvas of suspicious voters on the voting rolls that have voted in the last election beginning soon. the canvas is suppose to look at voters with problems such as 10's to 100's of voters registered to addresses that are businesses, single family homes, vacant lots, etc. and try to invalidate the maricopa votes edit title was arizona audit - maricopa county tells az senate f* you, not going to give you anything 8/2/21 Update - borrelli files complaint with AG to have maricopa investigated for violating subpoena, which could result in maricopa losing 10% of it's share of tax revenue for a year State Sen. Sonny Borrelli is asking the attorney general to punish the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors for refusing to comply with a recent subpoena related to the Senate's ongoing "audit" of the 2020 general election. Borrelli, a Republican from Lake Havasu City, filed a complaint with the Attorney General's Office under a 2016 law known as SB1487, which allows any lawmaker to ask the attorney general to investigate a city or county for adopting policies that violate state law. If the attorney general finds that the city or county did violate the law, they must either change the disputed policy or forfeit 10% of the shared tax revenue they receive from the state for that year. ... View Quote https://www.azmirror.com/blog/borrelli-wants-ag-to-take-action-against-supervisors-over-subpoena-defiance/ more details in article edit - title was AZ audit - maricopa county tells senate f* you on anything 8/2/21-UPD borrelli files AG complaint 8-6-21 it's tgp, but from oann, so.... Wisconsin's Election Committee Chairman Janelle Brandtjen issued subpoenas this morning to Brown and Milwaukee Counties. Today, OANN's Political Correspondent Christina Bobb reported big news out of Madison, Wisconsin. I just received confirmation just a few minutes ago that as you mentioned, chairman of the election committee here in the assembly in Wisconsin Janel Brandtjen has issued subpoenas this morning to both Brown County and Milwaukee County. Milwaukee County is obviously where Milwaukee is in Brown County is Green Bay, and she's heard from many of her constituents and many people around Wisconsin saying that they want an audit and they want to see what's happening in their elections here in Wisconsin and they just want to take a look and see what happened and so she issued those subpoenas, so it looks like we will see an audit. This is the same approach that Arizona took to subpoena the counties and ask them to turn over the information, and that happened this morning. .... 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Originally Posted By AKSnowRider: Why do you guys come into every political thread and blow shit all over the place like you own it? How about go make your own DU thread for the fucktards to shit all over and leave these threads for real conservative Americans who actually care about this country....... View Quote How about YOU head on over to DU where you might find a real leftist to argue with? All I did was explain how enforcement in this case needs to come from the AZ Senate. They certainly have the power to jail people who ignore their subpoenas--if only Fann had the votes. |
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Originally Posted By Veccio: Why the fuck are the vote machines (owned by a private company no less) connected into the network in the first place? Why is there only one network for all county agencies? Why are all the passwords the same fucking password? Why was the history of the devices on the network purposefully flooded with requests? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Veccio: Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: Yes, I'm so smart that I can actually read what was posted in the thread! They say the equipment was never connected to the network. That's only been there official policy ever since they got the equipment. Some idiot came up with a stupid theory about some great conspiracy, so these people come in and say "we don't believe you, prove that you didn't do what you say you didn't do. We want to dig around in all your equipment to see if we can find evidence you're lying." That's not how any of this works. You don't get to dig around in the equipment that operates the entire network for all the country agencies just because you don't believe them. There are major security implications and you need to at least have some basis for suspicion to make that kind of demand even worth considering It's like law enforcement being able to randomly walk into your house, open your safe, and dig around looking for something illegal just because they want to. And these people aren't even law enforcement... I'm coming to your house tomorrow, you have to let me in and spend as much time as I want looking for anything I want to look for. If you object, you are obviously hiding something! Sounds reasonable, right? You obviously have no clue how big IT operations work. The county is already spending millions of dollars to replace all the equipment that was given to the auditors because that equipment is now compromised and will probably just be trashed. Yet you people think there's nothing unreasonable about giving them more equipment and access so they can compromise the IT operations of every county agency including law enforcement? |
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Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: You obviously have no clue how big IT operations work. The county is already spending millions of dollars to replace all the equipment that was given to the auditors because that equipment is now compromised and will probably just be trashed. Yet you people think there's nothing unreasonable about giving them more equipment and access so they can compromise the IT operations of every county agency including law enforcement? View Quote You know? How exactly would all these millions of dollars of equipment be "compromised" and need to be trashed? Specifically, why would the physical equipment be worthless? |
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Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: Yes, I'm so smart that I can actually read what was posted in the thread! They say the equipment was never connected to the network. That's only been there official policy ever since they got the equipment. Some idiot came up with a stupid theory about some great conspiracy, so these people come in and say "we don't believe you, prove that you didn't do what you say you didn't do. We want to dig around in all your equipment to see if we can find evidence you're lying." That's not how any of this works. You don't get to dig around in the equipment that operates the entire network for all the country agencies just because you don't believe them. There are major security implications and you need to at least have some basis for suspicion to make that kind of demand even worth considering It's like law enforcement being able to randomly walk into your house, open your safe, and dig around looking for something illegal just because they want to. And these people aren't even law enforcement... I'm coming to your house tomorrow, you have to let me in and spend as much time as I want looking for anything I want to look for. If you object, you are obviously hiding something! Sounds reasonable, right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: Yes, I'm so smart that I can actually read what was posted in the thread! They say the equipment was never connected to the network. That's only been there official policy ever since they got the equipment. Some idiot came up with a stupid theory about some great conspiracy, so these people come in and say "we don't believe you, prove that you didn't do what you say you didn't do. We want to dig around in all your equipment to see if we can find evidence you're lying." That's not how any of this works. You don't get to dig around in the equipment that operates the entire network for all the country agencies just because you don't believe them. There are major security implications and you need to at least have some basis for suspicion to make that kind of demand even worth considering It's like law enforcement being able to randomly walk into your house, open your safe, and dig around looking for something illegal just because they want to. And these people aren't even law enforcement... I'm coming to your house tomorrow, you have to let me in and spend as much time as I want looking for anything I want to look for. If you object, you are obviously hiding something! Sounds reasonable, right? Arizona law requires all officers and public bodies to maintain records reasonably necessary to provide an accurate accounting of their official activities and of any government funded activities. Every citizen in Arizona has the right to access public records upon request. Sounds like the senate has determined that router logs etc are relevant documents. Let's also consider the "reasonable expectation" of legal action the County should have and the litigation hold they should have issued to protect that information too... |
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Originally Posted By KC0433: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/400935/Screenshot_20210802-204602_WhatsApp_jpg-2037723.JPG View Quote They act like 10 months means fuck all. Didn't their side spend the better part of four years investigating supposed election fraud? |
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Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: So any citizen who thinks something fishy is happening should be able to go on a fishing expedition through government IT equipment whenever they want? They help pay for it and the salaries of the people who maintain it, so why not? View Quote The same way they can request information such as emails, from any other official... it's called accountability and meant to keep public officials honest. |
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Originally Posted By madmacs69: Sounds like the senate has determined that router logs etc are relevant documents. Let's also consider the "reasonable expectation" of legal action the County should have and the litigation hold they should have issued to protect that information too... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By madmacs69: Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: Yes, I'm so smart that I can actually read what was posted in the thread! They say the equipment was never connected to the network. That's only been there official policy ever since they got the equipment. Some idiot came up with a stupid theory about some great conspiracy, so these people come in and say "we don't believe you, prove that you didn't do what you say you didn't do. We want to dig around in all your equipment to see if we can find evidence you're lying." That's not how any of this works. You don't get to dig around in the equipment that operates the entire network for all the country agencies just because you don't believe them. There are major security implications and you need to at least have some basis for suspicion to make that kind of demand even worth considering It's like law enforcement being able to randomly walk into your house, open your safe, and dig around looking for something illegal just because they want to. And these people aren't even law enforcement... I'm coming to your house tomorrow, you have to let me in and spend as much time as I want looking for anything I want to look for. If you object, you are obviously hiding something! Sounds reasonable, right? Arizona law requires all officers and public bodies to maintain records reasonably necessary to provide an accurate accounting of their official activities and of any government funded activities. Every citizen in Arizona has the right to access public records upon request. Sounds like the senate has determined that router logs etc are relevant documents. Let's also consider the "reasonable expectation" of legal action the County should have and the litigation hold they should have issued to protect that information too... The real problem is that it’s so hard to keep all these details straight. I thought one of the areas were proven to have machines connected to the internet. But if I say it was maricopa and it was actually Fulton county then the left uses that misstatement to pick apart and delegitimize your argument. I wish I could tell an investigator not to bother because they wouldn’t find anything anyway… or delete/destroy subpoenaed documents/emails/etc. Two tiered justice system… |
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Originally Posted By AesopsWildBoar: The real problem is that it’s so hard to keep all these details straight. I thought one of the areas were proven to have machines connected to the internet. But if I say it was maricopa and it was actually Fulton county then the left uses that misstatement to pick apart and delegitimize your argument. I wish I could tell an investigator not to bother because they wouldn’t find anything anyway… or delete/destroy subpoenaed documents/emails/etc. Two tiered justice system… View Quote If you receive a subpoena... I'm going to say you have a reasonable expectation. If you subpeona the work orders, and timesheets there's probably an OCD, CYA, IT guy (or girl) who put down "configure network for election machines". How were many of hilarys emails caught? From the receiving party... |
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Originally Posted By ACEB36TC: I'm beginning to think the people involved in cheating this election season have no idea what it's going to be like living in a world full of pissed off zombies. By cancelling a mans vote you make him less than a citizen. If I can't be a citizen because someone stole my vote then I'm good with being a pissed off zombie. View Quote you'd better be more like world war Z than the walking dead, just saying. |
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Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: That. Definitely that. Or... Maybe he just takes his responsibilities as a government official seriously and isn't operating based on political partisanship but is just doing his job right. But probably most likely your version... Let's go with that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: Originally Posted By Gunner226: The troll is an idiot. The "appeal" to a subpoena is the argument your attorney makes on your behalf at the show-cause hearing after you're arrested for contempt for ignoring the subpoena. This crap will continue until people like ol' Jack start being confronted by angry constituents every time he goes out in public, and gets refused service at every business owned or operated by someone who would like to see this audit completed. It's very clear he's confident that he doesn't answer to the people. That. Definitely that. Or... Maybe he just takes his responsibilities as a government official seriously and isn't operating based on political partisanship but is just doing his job right. But probably most likely your version... Let's go with that. the dude is a mccain republican, he hates T$ more than the AZ dems do |
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Hey, if the Left can hold up a supreme court nominee for months on the basis of an incident from over twenty years ago based on the hazy, half drunken memories of a single woman whose testimony not only cannot be collaborated, but conflicts itself, I'm pretty sure the Right as more than enough grounds to ask to see any records for a an election that should be transparent to begin with in a free society.
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Originally Posted By CherokeeRose: In before a mysterious fire destroys all the evidence. Oh wait, they have two CuckPublicans covering for them. Anyways, those routers are hanging out with Jimmy Hoffa, even commies aren't dumb enough to hold onto evidence for almost a year... As if the IC doesn't have all the good anyways, right? Whose side are they on? Our local_experts will be here shortly to explain why the lack of IC/NSA interference, lack of DA prosecution, and lack of interest from the courts proves that: its all tinfoil, Trump lost to Mr. Potatoe head, and no politician ever did rails of coke off a little boys ass. Does anybody doubt there are Republicans receiving fraudulent votes too? I'm looking at you, Mittens. Or receiving major bribes? Or getting blackmailed over sex tapes*? *Epstein totally, absolutely killed himself, right guys? Right? https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/us-judge-tells-lawyers-ghislaine-maxwell-case-watch-what-they-say-2021-07-30/ View Quote |
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They're just stalling until the feds come in and arrest the AZ senate for civil rights violation or something along those lines.
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Originally Posted By PolarBear416: This is correct. A subpoena is enforced by the entity that issued it, so the AZ Senate would have to vote to hold Maricopa in contempt. But Fann seems not to have the votes to do that, and Maricopa knows it. This isn't unique to AZ. Trump staffers ignored US House subpoenas and were never held in contempt for a similar I reason--the US House didn't have the appetite to vote them in contempt. View Quote Backup has arrived . lol |
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Originally Posted By ACEB36TC: I'm beginning to think the people involved in cheating this election season have no idea what it's going to be like living in a world full of pissed off zombies. By cancelling a mans vote you make him less than a citizen. If I can't be a citizen because someone stole my vote then I'm good with being a pissed off zombie. View Quote We're going to get no paper trail voting, and that'll be it. If something happens at all |
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Originally Posted By Snozberry: Hey, if the Left can hold up a supreme court nominee for months on the basis of an incident from over twenty years ago based on the hazy, half drunken memories of a single woman whose testimony not only cannot be collaborated, but conflicts itself, I'm pretty sure the Right as more than enough grounds to ask to see any records for a an election that should be transparent to begin with in a free society. View Quote The AZ Senate absolutely can compel the release of those materials. That could vote to hold Maricopa in contempt, and even jail people, until it's turned over. But Fann alone cannot, and a majority of AZ senators have doubts about the credibility of the audit and won't vote for it. |
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Originally Posted By amd_dude: They're just stalling until the feds come in and arrest the AZ senate for civil rights violation or something along those lines. View Quote My thoughts as well...maybe not arrests, but I'm sure a few state senator's relatives will be in single vehicle car accidents, overdose deaths, suicides, etc...maybe a few senators get audited and face some nasty tax penalties or information about them cheating on their spouses is leaked. Then, the subpoenas and audit will just kinda fade away Speed |
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Most secure election ever!!
Maybe there were a few places with irregularities, but no where near enough to change the result of the election. Ok there were a lot of irregularities, but it doesn’t matter. The AZ audit won’t find anything abnormal. The AZ audit might find some irregularities but not enough to change things. Maricopa County will not give up their information. ...we are here now Attached File |
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Originally Posted By PolarBear416: The AZ Senate absolutely can compel the release of those materials. That could vote to hold Maricopa in contempt, and even jail people, until it's turned over. But Fann alone cannot, and a majority of AZ senators have doubts about the credibility of the audit and won't vote for it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PolarBear416: Originally Posted By Snozberry: Hey, if the Left can hold up a supreme court nominee for months on the basis of an incident from over twenty years ago based on the hazy, half drunken memories of a single woman whose testimony not only cannot be collaborated, but conflicts itself, I'm pretty sure the Right as more than enough grounds to ask to see any records for a an election that should be transparent to begin with in a free society. The AZ Senate absolutely can compel the release of those materials. That could vote to hold Maricopa in contempt, and even jail people, until it's turned over. But Fann alone cannot, and a majority of AZ senators have doubts about the credibility of the audit and won't vote for it. Who is paying these AZ senators to have doubts? |
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: Who is paying these AZ senators to have doubts? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: Who is paying these AZ senators to have doubts? Who is paying the Cyber Ninjas? Oh wait, we know that one: Trump bought them. |
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Originally Posted By PolarBear416: Who is paying the Cyber Ninjas? Oh wait, we know that one: Trump bought them. View Quote There it is, TDS Attached File |
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Threads like this one make me wish GD had a better signal to noise ratio, so I could actually learn what is going on.
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In a society of lunatics, is the sane man really king?
Spellcheck prevents misspelling, not using the wrong frigging word. We live in a three-layered society, and only the middle layer is subject to the law. |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RancidAR: Originally Posted By PolarBear416: Who is paying the Cyber Ninjas? Oh wait, we know that one: Trump bought them. There it is, TDS /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/laugh-29.gif They're just performing an audit to the best of their abilities. Back to the AZ senators, why are they suddenly doubting an audit their party voted for that has been ongoing for the past few months? Did someone get to them? Its not like they didnt know who the cyber ninjas were a few months ago. |
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: Who is paying these AZ senators to have doubts? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: Originally Posted By PolarBear416: Originally Posted By Snozberry: Hey, if the Left can hold up a supreme court nominee for months on the basis of an incident from over twenty years ago based on the hazy, half drunken memories of a single woman whose testimony not only cannot be collaborated, but conflicts itself, I'm pretty sure the Right as more than enough grounds to ask to see any records for a an election that should be transparent to begin with in a free society. The AZ Senate absolutely can compel the release of those materials. That could vote to hold Maricopa in contempt, and even jail people, until it's turned over. But Fann alone cannot, and a majority of AZ senators have doubts about the credibility of the audit and won't vote for it. Who is paying these AZ senators to have doubts? $oro$ or some other shady NGO sponsored by one of the other commie tech robber barrons |
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Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: WTF are you talking about? They WEREN'T EVER connected to the network, which is why Maricopa is saying there's no need to give them what they're asking for. They are just making unreasonable and unfounded requests so they can go on a fishing expedition. You obviously have no clue how big IT operations work. The county is already spending millions of dollars to replace all the equipment that was given to the auditors because that equipment is now compromised and will probably just be trashed. Yet you people think there's nothing unreasonable about giving them more equipment and access so they can compromise the IT operations of every county agency including law enforcement? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: Originally Posted By Veccio: Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: Yes, I'm so smart that I can actually read what was posted in the thread! They say the equipment was never connected to the network. That's only been there official policy ever since they got the equipment. Some idiot came up with a stupid theory about some great conspiracy, so these people come in and say "we don't believe you, prove that you didn't do what you say you didn't do. We want to dig around in all your equipment to see if we can find evidence you're lying." That's not how any of this works. You don't get to dig around in the equipment that operates the entire network for all the country agencies just because you don't believe them. There are major security implications and you need to at least have some basis for suspicion to make that kind of demand even worth considering It's like law enforcement being able to randomly walk into your house, open your safe, and dig around looking for something illegal just because they want to. And these people aren't even law enforcement... I'm coming to your house tomorrow, you have to let me in and spend as much time as I want looking for anything I want to look for. If you object, you are obviously hiding something! Sounds reasonable, right? You obviously have no clue how big IT operations work. The county is already spending millions of dollars to replace all the equipment that was given to the auditors because that equipment is now compromised and will probably just be trashed. Yet you people think there's nothing unreasonable about giving them more equipment and access so they can compromise the IT operations of every county agency including law enforcement? You can't kiss commies all day if you don't start in the morning. Eta: not that there is anything wrong with that. |
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Originally Posted By Him: Threads like this one make me wish GD had a better signal to noise ratio, so I could actually learn what is going on. View Quote It's a fight to the bitter end. AZ senators and the cyber ninjas are on a war path with Maricopa County, the fake news media, nevertrumpers and democrats. |
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Originally Posted By PolarBear416: Who is paying the Cyber Ninjas? Oh wait, we know that one: Trump bought them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PolarBear416: Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: Who is paying these AZ senators to have doubts? Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: Who is paying these AZ senators to have doubts? Who is paying the Cyber Ninjas? Oh wait, we know that one: Trump bought them. Thanks for confirming that your input it totally unbiased. |
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Originally Posted By AesopsWildBoar: There’s that first post thing. “There’s nothing to see so don’t bother looking!” When has that defense ever held up? Even more so, how often is that defense even factually used? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AesopsWildBoar: Originally Posted By BBTC_MH: Me thinks thou doth protest too much There’s that first post thing. “There’s nothing to see so don’t bother looking!” When has that defense ever held up? Even more so, how often is that defense even factually used? The only person who would say "nothing to see / move on / don't bother looking" is guilty as fuck. That letter was written by a person who is scared shitless they will be found out. Chest puffing at this stage is a very typical defiant posture. They were in on this 100%. Writing the letter was a huge mistake. |
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Originally Posted By XxbatraiderxX: It's a fight to the bitter end. AZ senators and the cyber ninjas are on a war path with Maricopa County, the fake news media, nevertrumpers and democrats. View Quote The N_Ters are well represented in this thread. They argue the counterpoints like a committed Marxist dem would, sometimes better yet claim to be ultra conservative statist republicans who are accepting of the current Marxist dem administration. |
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The GOP establishment is just the "conservative" wing of the democrat/socialist party.
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That letter is hilarious. Jack Sellers is shitting bricks.
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The struggle is real when you're an idiot.
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Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: Yes, I'm so smart that I can actually read what was posted in the thread! They say the equipment was never connected to the network. That's only been there official policy ever since they got the equipment. Some idiot came up with a stupid theory about some great conspiracy, so these people come in and say "we don't believe you, prove that you didn't do what you say you didn't do. We want to dig around in all your equipment to see if we can find evidence you're lying." That's not how any of this works. You don't get to dig around in the equipment that operates the entire network for all the country agencies just because you don't believe them. There are major security implications and you need to at least have some basis for suspicion to make that kind of demand even worth considering. It's like law enforcement being able to randomly walk into your house, open your safe, and dig around looking for something illegal just because they want to. And these people aren't even law enforcement... I'm coming to your house tomorrow, you have to let me in and spend as much time as I want looking for anything I want to look for. If you object, you are obviously hiding something! Sounds reasonable, right? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: Originally Posted By 1paintball: Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: Do you even know what they are asking for? Because it doesn't sound like you have a clue... Why don`t you fill us in then? Knower of all things that you are. lol Yes, I'm so smart that I can actually read what was posted in the thread! They say the equipment was never connected to the network. That's only been there official policy ever since they got the equipment. Some idiot came up with a stupid theory about some great conspiracy, so these people come in and say "we don't believe you, prove that you didn't do what you say you didn't do. We want to dig around in all your equipment to see if we can find evidence you're lying." That's not how any of this works. You don't get to dig around in the equipment that operates the entire network for all the country agencies just because you don't believe them. There are major security implications and you need to at least have some basis for suspicion to make that kind of demand even worth considering. It's like law enforcement being able to randomly walk into your house, open your safe, and dig around looking for something illegal just because they want to. And these people aren't even law enforcement... I'm coming to your house tomorrow, you have to let me in and spend as much time as I want looking for anything I want to look for. If you object, you are obviously hiding something! Sounds reasonable, right? Kind of like President Donald Trumps taxes? |
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Originally Posted By Layer60: The same fucking gray bars in the same kind of thread, every fucking time. It seems the left is now down to it's third string. Maybe tenth. Their presence here devalues this site. I hate them deeply. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Layer60: The same fucking gray bars in the same kind of thread, every fucking time. It seems the left is now down to it's third string. Maybe tenth. Their presence here devalues this site. I hate them deeply. Originally Posted By KennyW1983: Who is paying you? You would think this far after the election, the money spigot would have been shut off except for essential services, like obstructing official investigations. By this point, these N_T'ers HAVE to be doing it purely for their own enjoyment. It's inconceivable that they're STILL getting paid to shill this shit. I'm just sayin'. |
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Don't piss off old people. The older we get, the less "Life in Prison" is a deterrent.
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View Quote So, you expect the opposition to fund an audit that might end up hurting them? If the D's wanted a third party audit I would fully expect it to be funded by the candidate that lost and would welcome the chance for them to do so. |
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Well, that's just fantastic.
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Originally Posted By ceetee: You would think this far after the election, the money spigot would have been shut off except for essential services, like obstructing official investigations. By this point, these N_T'ers HAVE to be doing it purely for their own enjoyment. It's inconceivable that they're STILL getting paid to shill this shit. I'm just sayin'. View Quote Arizona, vaccines and the faux insurrection seem to draw them out. Always status quo statists |
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Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: WTF are you talking about? They WEREN'T EVER connected to the network, which is why Maricopa is saying there's no need to give them what they're asking for. They are just making unreasonable and unfounded requests so they can go on a fishing expedition. You obviously have no clue how big IT operations work. The county is already spending millions of dollars to replace all the equipment that was given to the auditors because that equipment is now compromised and will probably just be trashed. Yet you people think there's nothing unreasonable about giving them more equipment and access so they can compromise the IT operations of every county agency including law enforcement? View Quote This should apply everywhere. There should be no need to even acknowledge a subpoena if you really, really, truly mean it when you say you didn't do that bad stuff. |
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LOL CNN couldn't avoid this one.
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Get some contempt of court filed, put these fuckers in jail.
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"Freedom isn't free. It costs a hefty fuckin' fee. And if we don't toss in our buck 'o five, who will?"
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Needs state police arresting loads of people and seizing things as evidence.
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Equality will destroy humanity.
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Browning Hi-Power, the side arm of the free world
AZ, USA
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Originally Posted By RDak: Do you know much about him? I ask because he is listed as a republican on wiki, etc. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RDak: Originally Posted By HogJaws: That letter is hilarious. Jack Sellers is shitting bricks. Do you know much about him? I ask because he is listed as a republican on wiki, etc. mccain wing of the party, I bet there's a pretty decent conspiracy between them all to fuck T$ in this state |
1984 was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual
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Originally Posted By mikesmith13807: So any citizen who thinks something fishy is happening should be able to go on a fishing expedition through government IT equipment whenever they want? They help pay for it and the salaries of the people who maintain it, so why not? View Quote This is the first time this has ever been done. Ever. So maybe we try it once? |
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Originally Posted By Fourays2: mccain wing of the party, I bet there's a pretty decent conspiracy between them all to fuck T$ in this state View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Fourays2: Originally Posted By RDak: Originally Posted By HogJaws: That letter is hilarious. Jack Sellers is shitting bricks. Do you know much about him? I ask because he is listed as a republican on wiki, etc. mccain wing of the party, I bet there's a pretty decent conspiracy between them all to fuck T$ in this state Ah........gotcha, makes COMPLETE sense now. Thanks. |
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Originally Posted By Snozberry: Can somebody explain how you can legally ignore a subpeona? I mean, i understand not being afraid of consequences when the establishment is willing to completely ignore the law, but... whats going on? Is it just that? Im pretty sure none of us could ignore a subpoena like maricopa is doing. I mean, im not expecting much. There's been more than enough time to obfuscate any trail of evidence by any competent blackhat. View Quote When nobody has enough backbone to resort to actual enforcement, then the subpoena isn't really "legal", it's more of a strong suggestion. |
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Never esteem anything as of advantage to you that will make you break your word or lose your self-respect. ~Marcus Aurelius |
Originally Posted By PolarBear416: Who is paying the Cyber Ninjas? Oh wait, we know that one: Trump bought them. View Quote Machines do what they are programmed / instructed to do. Some people do not want to share or disclose those instructions. Pretty straight forward and simple to prove one way or the other. Bet you think OJ was framed too or it was just a double suicide. |
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