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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:12:56 PM EDT
[#1]
This is the first I've heard of it. I never knew about it.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:15:31 PM EDT
[#2]
Meanwhile at Wouded Knee.....
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:16:29 PM EDT
[#3]
This is the new juneteenth.
I demand reparations for whites!! A shot was fired, and then according to the reports of the sheriff, "all hell broke loose." At the end of the firefight, 12 people were killed: 10 White and 2 Black. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:16:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meanwhile at Wouded Knee..... Exactly. 
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:17:12 PM EDT
[#5]
Heard of the massacre but not the “celebration”.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:19:33 PM EDT
[#6]
I'm sure corporate America and the media will fall all over themselves to suck up to BLM et al.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:20:14 PM EDT
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There's a race track in Tulsa?
A massacre at the race? A hundred years ago what kind of cars raced? WTF |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:21:24 PM EDT
[#8]
So what “really” happened all those years ago?
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:21:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the first I've heard of it. I never knew about it. serious question, is this sarcasm? |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:23:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: serious question, is this sarcasm? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is the first I've heard of it. I never knew about it. serious question, is this sarcasm? Not sarcasm. I never knew this took place. Never in my life have I heard of it. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:23:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: serious question, is this sarcasm? In my upper 30s I had never heard about it until a few years ago. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:25:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In my upper 30s I had never heard about it until a few years ago. I'm in my 40's and have no idea what we're talking about. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:26:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sarcasm. I never knew this took place. Never in my life have I heard of it. There were some eye witness accounts and some books published on the subject, TLDR it was fucked up horrid and vile. Quick Article |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:27:27 PM EDT
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Back in the early 80s I use to fish in a pond owned by an older black couple. The old man George use to come down and talk while we fished, he told us stories about that day. He always said there is a mass grave but it has just as many whites as blacks. His dad owned a shipping company and he said everyone that worked for his dad were WWI vets. He was out of town making deliveries with his uncle at the time. I've found his stories to be more truthful than most history books. He was wounded twice in WWII, both butt cheeks, once on Italy and the other in germany.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:28:03 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in my 40's and have no idea what we're talking about. some people did stuff |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:35:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:36:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what “really” happened all those years ago? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre https://www.history.com/topics/roaring-twenties/tulsa-race-massacre https://www.britannica.com/event/Tulsa-race-riot-of-1921 https://www.thoughtco.com/tulsa-race-massacre-causes-events-and-aftermath-5112768 https://www.matteroffact.tv/100-years-later-the-tulsa-race-massacre-and-the-subsequent-cover-up/ |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:38:04 PM EDT
[#18]
This is the same thing as Juneteenth
I've 38 and I never heard about either the Tulsa thing of Juneteenth until 2016 Considering the massive media and academic push to make Black People the new super citizens this isn't really a surprise Astroturf movement |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:39:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sarcasm. I never knew this took place. Never in my life have I heard of it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is the first I've heard of it. I never knew about it. serious question, is this sarcasm? Not sarcasm. I never knew this took place. Never in my life have I heard of it. That is one of the big "selling points". It is presented as a suppressed part of history. The numbers presented for how many were killed varies WILDLY. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:41:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:43:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sarcasm. I never knew this took place. Never in my life have I heard of it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is the first I've heard of it. I never knew about it. serious question, is this sarcasm? Not sarcasm. I never knew this took place. Never in my life have I heard of it. i've never heard of it |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:43:39 PM EDT
[#22]
There was actually private aircraft dropping bombs.
How crazy is that? First bombs ever dropped by an airplane over a US city? |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:44:28 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the first I've heard of it. I never knew about it. The Watchmen HBO series was partially based around it. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:45:08 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the same thing as Juneteenth I've 38 and I never heard about either the Tulsa thing of Juneteenth until 2016 Considering the massive media and academic push to make Black People the new super citizens this isn't really a surprise Astroturf movement juneteenth is a Texas thing....it's when the Texas slaves heard the civil war was over and they were going to be free/were free. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:46:20 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So what “really” happened all those years ago? Is this the one where the black guy raped a woman, and then blacks killed 10 white people because the rapist was arrested? |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:46:47 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: juneteenth is a Texas thing....it's when the Texas slaves heard the civil war was over and they were going to be free/were free. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is the same thing as Juneteenth I've 38 and I never heard about either the Tulsa thing of Juneteenth until 2016 Considering the massive media and academic push to make Black People the new super citizens this isn't really a surprise Astroturf movement juneteenth is a Texas thing....it's when the Texas slaves heard the civil war was over and they were going to be free/were free. Not anymore. It is universal thing for all now. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:48:17 PM EDT
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Would like to see the death tally of B on W for the past 100 years while they are crying victim
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:48:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not anymore. It is universal thing for all now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is the same thing as Juneteenth I've 38 and I never heard about either the Tulsa thing of Juneteenth until 2016 Considering the massive media and academic push to make Black People the new super citizens this isn't really a surprise Astroturf movement juneteenth is a Texas thing....it's when the Texas slaves heard the civil war was over and they were going to be free/were free. Not anymore. It is universal thing for all now. Yeah, thanks,Texas. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:49:31 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: juneteenth is a Texas thing....it's when the Texas slaves heard the civil war was over and they were going to be free/were free. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is the same thing as Juneteenth I've 38 and I never heard about either the Tulsa thing of Juneteenth until 2016 Considering the massive media and academic push to make Black People the new super citizens this isn't really a surprise Astroturf movement juneteenth is a Texas thing....it's when the Texas slaves heard the civil war was over and they were going to be free/were free. That's what I learned during the big push to make it a national federal holiday Which is bizarre, IMO As someone who grew up in Northern Illinois, I'm still waiting for Casimir Pulaski Day to become a national federal holiday 
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:49:59 PM EDT
[#30]
This time i have heard of it.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:50:08 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sarcasm. I never knew this took place. Never in my life have I heard of it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is the first I've heard of it. I never knew about it. serious question, is this sarcasm? Not sarcasm. I never knew this took place. Never in my life have I heard of it. I have usually heard it referred to as the burning of Black Wallstreet |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:50:44 PM EDT
[#32]
More blacks die in a weekend in Chicago.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:51:50 PM EDT
[#33]
More race baiting pot stirring by the biggest racists that exist today, the media.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:52:11 PM EDT
[#34]
For those who have not heard about it or want more information, this Wondery podcast series is a pretty unbiased telling of the story...
https://wondery.com/shows/american-history-tellers/episode/5279-tulsa-race-massacre-the-promised-land/ My take... Many white citizens were not happy with the prosperity of "Black Wall Street" and when they found a reason to burn the neighborhood to the ground, they took advantage of it. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:52:40 PM EDT
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I knew some people that were on the original commission in 1997. It is fair to say they had an "opinion" of how it should turn out, doesn't mean all of it was wrong.
One significant issue is what happened to people. It is well documented some moved from Greenwood to the Sand Springs area. If you don't have a list of who moved where they assume they were killed. It is incorrect, but how much incorrect is unknown. Tulsa remains an oddly segregated city. I think it is also weird people try go pitch this as "POC" against "white people" and some of the "POC" in Oklahoma don't quite feel that. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:52:57 PM EDT
[#36]
30 minute anniversary of multiple shootings in Chicago in the dark part of town.....
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:54:05 PM EDT
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I've studied this Riot for 40-45 years and was able to interview dozens of people who witnessed it or were in it.
WW1 vets and the people of that time period were not to be fucked with. NG Armory was opened...guns were distributed. Skirmish lines were formed... bombs and Molotovs were dropped. Dozers removed any other issues. etc..etc.. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:54:53 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There was actually private aircraft dropping bombs. How crazy is that? First bombs ever dropped by an airplane over a US city? the Police Chief. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:55:36 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: juneteenth is a Texas thing....it's when the Texas slaves heard the civil war was over and they were going to be free/were free. Juneteenth is just as big or bigger in OK... |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:56:07 PM EDT
[#40]
I first heard about it maybe 7 or 8 years ago. Total shit show, from what I read.
All the people saying "never heard of it" are bolstering the agenda for the factions with an axe to grind. We never heard of it 'cause racism. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:57:32 PM EDT
[#41]
To be honest, the first I heard about it was from The Watchmen series (I’m mid 30s). At first I assumed it was made up for part of the show, but after looking it up, I was surprised I hadn’t heard more about it in some capacity.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:59:01 PM EDT
[#42]
Race race race
I don’t give a shit |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 3:59:55 PM EDT
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I am enjoying this thread and its topic. I have a ton of reading to do because I want to learn about this. It is interesting to say the least.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 4:00:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what “really” happened all those years ago? White girl said black kid touched her. He was arrested, group of white guys went to lynch him. Group of black guys went to protect him. Someone black fingerfuckined a gun. A shot went off. Blacks killed a buncha whites. Then whites went chimp on the blacks. No one for sure knows how many blacks were killed. No one talked about it afterwards. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 4:00:28 PM EDT
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I'm 41 and grew up here in Oklahoma. In school it was referred to as the "Tulsa Riots". Then I believe while I was in college or not long after graduating it was referred to as the "Tulsa Race Riots". Now it's being talked about on the local channels and spoken about almost daily on the local news as the "Tulsa Race Massacre". Thousands if not close to a million dollars has been spent trying to locate these so-called mass graves where dozens or hundreds of black people are buried. Not a single grave or body has been discovered and likely won't. When they search and area it's on the news and then they're "Ohhhh, well we know another place we think the graves will be." They keep doing that and repeating the same "I can't believe the graves weren't here. Let's go check over there."
There has never been any discussion in school or dinner tables about a massacre. It's my belief there wasn't a massacre and there wasn't a massive cover up by the media. You have a few 100+ year old people "recalling" random black citizens being murdered in the streets but not a single body has been found. No body = no murder. Not a single white survivor has come forward to say "Yes, I saw my pappy mow down defenseless nig***s with his gun." There was never a massacre and it's a shame this lie is being told enough people believe it now. If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 4:00:33 PM EDT
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For 95+ years it was simply known as the Tulsa Race Riot, if their rebranding gives you any indicator of their motives for promoting this.
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Posted: 5/24/2021 4:02:40 PM EDT
[#47]
Prep your asses for Zimbabwe "American Style"
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Posted: 5/24/2021 4:03:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I first heard about it maybe 7 or 8 years ago. Total shit show, from what I read. All the people saying "never heard of it" are bolstering the agenda for the factions with an axe to grind. We never heard of it 'cause racism.  There are tons of historical events that are not taught and most people have never heard of, not because of racism. Most people, outside of one or two school districts in Georgia, don't know who William McIntosh is, what he did, or what happened to him. Not because of racism but because in the grand scheme of national events, it's not the important, compared to dozens of other events. The Trail of Tears and Sequoyah are more important and almost always get the educational time. Same with the Tulsa Race Riot, important locally and culturally to black people, but not really nationally to a nation whose demographics have only recently changed. |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 4:04:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Race race race I don't give a shit Let's keep fomenting hatred between the races |
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Posted: 5/24/2021 4:05:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Race race race I don’t give a shit Only a racist would. |
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