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Posted: 5/2/2021 2:42:41 PM EDT
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As many of you are aware, the NRA is a shell of it's former self. Some folks in power have taken it upon themselves to enrich their lives versus continuing the efforts of the organization. The NRA is fighting for it's life in bankruptcy court and a ton of information has come forth and been verified. Most of these things were already known to many in the community. Abuses of member funds by Wayne and excessive payments for legal support to Brewer are two of the worst, but the list is long. Some folks who backed Wayne, did so with the hope these were lies, but the more the case has dragged on, the more these have been shown to be truths. Private jets, luxury vacations, excessive shopping, and more. OUR funds were not donated to help a few folks live lavish lifestyles, but to protect our 2nd Amendment rights! Having been involved in things for a few years, I've seen more than I care to. I have fought along side some great folks and been honored to name David Dell'AQuila as a friend. He is the gentleman who sued the NRA on behalf of the members and has been at the front of all of these legal battles. He is an honorable man and has put his life on hold to fight. As things are now coming closer to an end, we have the chance to take the last shots and rid the NRA of Wayne LaPierre, Bill Brewer, and god willing, the entire board of directors. By doing so we can return the NRA to the PEOPLE and fix the problems which have plagued it for years. Some of you are still skeptical about the above, so I invite you to read as much information as is out there, including posts on ARFCOM discussing this. Educate yourself and join the fight. This is the last chance we have to get Wayne removed and take back the NRA!!!! Everything is closing quickly now and it's critical we make efforts now! Here is the link to donate to FixTheNRA Legal Fund: https://www.gofundme.com/f/nra-watch-dog-legal-fund Here is a list of good reads, including active threads on ARFCOM regarding this issue: - https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Wayne-LaPierre_-NRA-Exposed-/5-2448747/ - https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/NRA-Bankruptcy-Day10-NRA-Staff-Totally-Reformed-Now-Still-Need-WAYNE-PS-Where-Gun-Media-/5-2444699/?page=1 - https://nrawatch.org/ What else can you do? - HELP SPREAD THE WORD!!!! - Cease any and all donations to the NRA and ask everyone you know to do the same! - Cancel and request REFUNDS for any payments (memberships) to the NRA The NRA needs member support and money right now, in order to fight through the legal issues. We are asking for leadership to be removed. This is the time to strike and to help make it happen! If we can impact their bankruptcy plan, it will fail and they will be unable to proceed without our help! In order to help, we will require leadership's removal! THE NRA BELONGS TO THE MEMBERSHIP!!!! HELP TAKE IT BACK!!! PLEASE DO NOT SIT THIS ONE OUT. GET INVOLVED AND HELP IN THE FINAL STRETCH!!! SPREAD THE WORD AND HELP INFORM OTHERS!!! IT'S TIME TO TAKE BACK THE NRA FOR THE COMMUNITY!!!! |
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Another good read: https://thereload.com/analysis-the-nras-membership-problem/
Analysis: The NRA's Membership Problem By Stephen Gutowski In testimony during Thursday's NRA's bankruptcy trial, CEO Wayne LaPierre said the gun-rights group currently has about 4.89 million dues-paying members, with about 2 million being lifetime members. That makes it by far the biggest gun group in America, but it also underscores a serious problem. In 2013, Lapierre first announced the group had reached five million members. He said the group had added half a million members in the previous six months alone. He then promised to double the NRA's numbers. "By the time we're finished, the NRA must and will be 10 million strong," USA Today reported Lapierre saying at the group's 2013 annual meeting. Eight years later and the membership has not just stagnated but shrunk. While the Census shows the population grew by about 3.8 percent over that period, the NRA membership has apparently shrunk by about 2.2 percent. If the NRA's membership has hit a ceiling, that's significant, and it's a bad sign for the most influential gun-rights group on the planet. It's also a bad sign for NRA leadership's argument in their current argument in the bankruptcy case. NRA leadership has repeatedly argued the LaPierre is the driving force behind fundraising at the organization, and it could not operate anywhere as effectively without him. But LaPierre has not only failed to meet his self-set 2013 goal of doubling NRA membership; membership has actually receded by his own account. I reached out to the NRA for comment on the membership numbers but did not hear back before publication. A headline in the NRA's America's 1st Freedom magazine declared the group had reached 6 million members in August of 2018. The text of the article put it at "nearly 6 million" with "an increase of more than a million members since just before the Parkland shooting" earlier that year. The next month, NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam told The Washington Post the number was back to "approximately 5.5 million dues-paying members." Three years later, it's back down to less than 5 million. Membership in political organizations like the NRA tends to increase in election years and decrease otherwise. Major pushes for new federal gun-control laws, like those after the Sandy Hook and Parkland shootings, also have an obvious effect on NRA membership. So, some fluctuation year to year should be expected, but it doesn't explain the eight-year flatline the group has seen. And the long-term trend should concern anyone who believes the NRA's huge membership base is key to projecting the political power of gun owners. It's the fact that millions of people are willing to pay the NRA money to be a member that gives it immense political influence. No other gun-related group on either side of the issue comes anywhere close to having that sort of dedicated fan base. Not Everytown for Gun Safety or Giffords or Gun Owners of America or anyone else. With long-time NRA antagonist Joe Biden now in the Oval Office and attacking the group by name, there should be ample opportunity for the group to grow membership depending on how it emerges from the legal troubles it is currently entangled in. The NRA may be preoccupied with mere survival at this point, but they should turn an eye towards long-term growth as well. Forced dissolution would mean a quick death, but stagnation would mean a slow one. |
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Can't the members of the NRA just sign a petition and kick him out?
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I have an idea, set up a fund that will hold money in escrow to be released upon the removal of Wayne, Hammer, Exec Board, etc. Then promote that far and wide.
Once people see the millions sitting there, it will be an obvious fiduciary duty to act. It will also send a message to the anti gun crowd that the NRA is one step away from being a juggernaut again. |
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Quoted: No. The NRA leadership changed the rules so that we have to play it their way. Oh - and the possibilities of who to put on the board is from a selection they decide by themselves. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Can't the members of the NRA just sign a petition and kick him out? No. The NRA leadership changed the rules so that we have to play it their way. Oh - and the possibilities of who to put on the board is from a selection they decide by themselves. People actually voted for the by law change because FWLP said it was a good thing. |
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Quoted: Can't the members of the NRA just sign a petition and kick him out? View Quote The membership can petition the board, which was the original plan. It failed and they systematically isolated and removed all board members who opposed Wayne. It is now mostly an echo chamber of Wayne supporters. We can't count on the board to support the membership, they need to be removed and potentially all named in lawsuits directly to get the point. If we remove Wayne without the board, it's possible they could simply name another poor leader and continue the corruption. If we can alter the bankruptcy plan, we can require the removal of all leadership and start fresh. The membership holds the power in the eyes of the court, so we need David's lawsuit to echo exactly what we feel. I believe closing statements are Monday and he's working around the clock to get things ready. The more the membership can do to be heard, the more power we will have in how this is resolved. Make sure to spread the word for folks to CANCEL AND REQUEST REFUNDS on any membership payments they have recently made and stop any and all donations to the NRA!!! |
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Ceased giving money to the NRA at least 5 years ago and told the solicitors no more until Wayne is gone.
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Quoted: I have an idea, set up a fund that will hold money in escrow to be released upon the removal of Wayne, Hammer, Exec Board, etc. Then promote that far and wide. Once people see the millions sitting there, it will be an obvious fiduciary duty to act. It will also send a message to the anti gun crowd that the NRA is one step away from being a juggernaut again. View Quote David and his team have worked to keep large NRA donations from them. There are tens of millions waiting for the NRA to be fixed before these donations will be made. The financial squeeze has been going on! |
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It was time for this.
I actually got a call from the NRA after I replied to an email with: "Is Wayne still there? I have let mine and all four of my childrens membership expire. When Wayne is gone I will reconsider." A few minutes later caller ID came up with a number from Virginia. Short version of conversation. "We know and you are one of many saying this." |
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Quoted: Can't the members of the NRA just sign a petition and kick him out? View Quote His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Wayne LaPierre, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular. And also Uncrowned King Of Scotland. |
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Quoted: The membership can petition the board, which was the original plan. It failed and they systematically isolated and removed all board members who opposed Wayne. It is now mostly an echo chamber of Wayne supporters. We can't count on the board to support the membership, they need to be removed and potentially all named in lawsuits directly to get the point. If we remove Wayne without the board, it's possible they could simply name another poor leader and continue the corruption. If we can alter the bankruptcy plan, we can require the removal of all leadership and start fresh. The membership holds the power in the eyes of the court, so we need David's lawsuit to echo exactly what we feel. I believe closing statements are Monday and he's working around the clock to get things ready. The more the membership can do to be heard, the more power we will have in how this is resolved. Make sure to spread the word for folks to CANCEL AND REQUEST REFUNDS on any membership payments they have recently made and stop any and all donations to the NRA!!! View Quote Okay. Attached File Board members Not to be spineless fudds. |
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Quoted: The membership can petition the board, which was the original plan. It failed and they systematically isolated and removed all board members who opposed Wayne. It is now mostly an echo chamber of Wayne supporters. We can't count on the board to support the membership, they need to be removed and potentially all named in lawsuits directly to get the point. If we remove Wayne without the board, it's possible they could simply name another poor leader and continue the corruption. If we can alter the bankruptcy plan, we can require the removal of all leadership and start fresh. The membership holds the power in the eyes of the court, so we need David's lawsuit to echo exactly what we feel. I believe closing statements are Monday and he's working around the clock to get things ready. The more the membership can do to be heard, the more power we will have in how this is resolved. Make sure to spread the word for folks to CANCEL AND REQUEST REFUNDS on any membership payments they have recently made and stop any and all donations to the NRA!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Can't the members of the NRA just sign a petition and kick him out? The membership can petition the board, which was the original plan. It failed and they systematically isolated and removed all board members who opposed Wayne. It is now mostly an echo chamber of Wayne supporters. We can't count on the board to support the membership, they need to be removed and potentially all named in lawsuits directly to get the point. If we remove Wayne without the board, it's possible they could simply name another poor leader and continue the corruption. If we can alter the bankruptcy plan, we can require the removal of all leadership and start fresh. The membership holds the power in the eyes of the court, so we need David's lawsuit to echo exactly what we feel. I believe closing statements are Monday and he's working around the clock to get things ready. The more the membership can do to be heard, the more power we will have in how this is resolved. Make sure to spread the word for folks to CANCEL AND REQUEST REFUNDS on any membership payments they have recently made and stop any and all donations to the NRA!!! I quit donating 3 years ago. One person you need to remove before even Wayne, is Marion Hammer. I have no idea what power she has over WLP and the board. WLP and the board can start to agree to something and if Marion Hammer doesn't like it, it does not happen |
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Well, attitude towards NRA criticism on this board sure has changed.
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Quoted: His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Wayne LaPierre, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular. And also Uncrowned King Of Scotland. View Quote In other words, he's an asshole that needs to go. |
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Quoted: Lol, no. They basically voted that option out at the meetings in 2019 IIRC. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Can't the members of the NRA just sign a petition and kick him out? Lol, no. They basically voted that option out at the meetings in 2019 IIRC. I feel like such a tool being an endowment member these days. |
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Please don't tack this! I want everyone to to naturally bump this and keep it visible.
Our success always depends on our will to fight. If we do not support this, the NRA will die and we will need to rebuild a new organization from the ground up. There are others out there who are making efforts, but some of them are already financial outlets for the leadership. The NRA is the biggest and best option we have to make our voices heard. We need to do everything we can to remove all the leadership folks and take back control. Even if this means suing every single board member individually, we will do whatever it takes. Right now we need Wayne gone. If we can get the board too, that will be a huge win. If not, we take the win and we open the fight to the board to get them removed!!!! |
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Quoted: I feel like such a tool being an endowment member these days. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: I feel like such a tool being an endowment member these days. View Quote There are a lot of lifetime members here and it's not something to be ashamed of. We made efforts to put pro 2a and pro black rifle folks on the board and spread knowledge. We tried to remove Wayne through operational edicts via our board members. Ollie put his tail on the line to help, as did many others. When that movement failed, they removed folks one by one to fill the board with pro-Wayne folks. If we can take it back, our voices will be critical in ensuring the right people are on the board. Folks who are there because they believe in our freedoms. I wish we could somehow ask for refunds, but our fight will be coming if we can regain the power to create a new board and select new leadership! |
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In. The NRA could be a serious powerhouse for peeling back decades of rotten gun laws.
Let's hope this goes somewhere. |
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Companies like MidwayUSA need to cease collecting NRA donations from purchasers.
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Quoted: His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Wayne LaPierre, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular. And also Uncrowned King Of Scotland. View Quote You forgot Captain General and Admiral of the Ocean Sea |
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I increasingly believe that Wayne isn't going anywhere unless it's in a casket or a pair of handcuffs.
The majority of the Board simply doesn't care, or is implicated in wrongdoing themselves. |
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Life member here. I'll do what I can to help rid the NRA of WLP and his cronies.
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Any chance those thieves get some prison time? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/vladimir-putin-laughing_zpsov82lsef_GIF-129.gif |
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For an Average Joe like me, I look around and I see FPC, SAF, GOA, and the state-level orgs fighting court battles and racking up wins, and all I ever hear from the NRA is about their own internal political and financial issues. I don't see them actually fighting the fight. Of course I'm still a member, but... I have to wonder what I'm getting for my money.
There are a lot of other places to throw our money and support to. Do they not understand this? |
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Can we start with bombing their social media posts begging for money. Half the comments are filled with don’t tread on me guys ball licking the NRA about how good they are. Outside of this board I think a lot of this goes unnoticed.
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I wasn’t aware you could request refunds on memberships...
Time to take back the NRA. Get rid of WLP. |
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Quoted: Life member here. I'll do what I can to help rid the NRA of WLP and his cronies. View Quote |
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Quoted: It was time for this. I actually got a call from the NRA after I replied to an email with: "Is Wayne still there? I have let mine and all four of my childrens membership expire. When Wayne is gone I will reconsider." A few minutes later caller ID came up with a number from Virginia. Short version of conversation. "We know and you are one of many saying this." View Quote They never bothered to call me back after I wrote "Strip Wayne and Hammer of every single cent they own and send them to a Turkish prison for the rest of their lives and I'll consider renewing". I quit receiving renewal notices as well so I must have hit a nerve. |
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View Quote We lifetime members have ZERO effect on the WLP situation. Last time I sent something, I got the "we appreciate your concern, blah blah blah". |
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I donated $100 to the cause.....and used my BofA CC to do it. Commie bastards, I will purchase freedom with it even though they don't like it.
As a note normally would trash this card but longest line of credit.... |
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