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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:23:56 AM EDT
Here is a copy of a problem I had recently with a post vanishing on the EE. I posted a RRA rifle I had for sale last night about 10pm. This morning I could not find the add. It had vanished. I then posted a replacement for my add and made a post asking if any of the mods knew what had happened. STOKES responsed with "You're breaking the rules.
Please read them. I'll delete this thread in a few hours, giving you time to read this response. This thread is a violation of the rules as well. And, I'm also deleting your current ads that are against the rules. Stokes" Come to find out I had bold text in the title area. Ok no problem I will go fis it but STOKES deleted it as well!!!! Now this would not be a problem if it had been a small post but I spent about 30 minutes making a accurate detail discription and posting 10 or so pics for people. STOKES could you have not just told me? I would have fixed it ASAP. Hell what does it matter its not your time is it? [edited] !!!!!This site has some problems with its mods! Why dont you have a little more respect for your site donators next time[edited!!!!! 
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=21&t=208089 You have the right to get pissed,but not to insult anybody because you disagree with them! Ed Sr |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:26:24 AM EDT
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Maybe you should upgrade to a platinum account.
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:29:18 AM EDT
[#2]
so you are mad at him cause you broke the rules?
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:29:50 AM EDT
[#3]
Maybe you should read the rules.
ETA - I'm pretty sure there's a comment in the EE rules somewhere, I'm sure I saw it posted by Aimless, to the effect that the mods in there don't have time to run around, emailing and IM'ing people about problems with their threads and keeping tabs on stuff to make sure it gets fixed. Instead, they delete problem threads. Says so right in the rules. It's YOUR responsibility to make sure your ads comply with the rules. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:30:08 AM EDT
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I guess I should...lol... It just burns my ass at how rude some of the mods are on this site. I made a mistake, a minor one at that and would have fixed it ASAP... just pisses me off! Now I have to go list it for a 3rd time...
No I am pissed at the way he handled it |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:30:47 AM EDT
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Did you realize that you have to scream profanity at the moderator JUST right or he won't help you?
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:32:57 AM EDT
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That does sound a little heavy handed. One time I screwed up and cross posted something in the EE, didn't realize it was against the rules. I didn't get a warning, a request to correct my error, or anything like that. Instead, the text was edited (removed) and a short and terse post appeared that said something to the effect of "do this again and your account will be locked".
The mods in the other areas of the board are a lot more "moderate". Maybe there is an advertiser(s) who complains about non advertisers screwing up before the staff has a chance to get people to correct errors........and this is what you get. It's not too hard to figure that a paying advertiser will be quick to find these things and bring them to staff's attention, and money talks. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:33:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:33:11 AM EDT
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kwitcherbichin.
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:34:12 AM EDT
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This should straighten things right out! This kind of response always makes me MUCH more willing to help resolve things! |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:35:50 AM EDT
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Actually I think I deleted it not Stokes. I removed something of yours this morning, you used bold in the title.
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:35:58 AM EDT
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Could you not have let me know about the text? It would have taken you no more time to let me know than it did to delete a thread which I spent a lot of time on. You guys need to work on you policy a little bit
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:37:16 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:41:17 AM EDT
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Yep, you're right. In my case, IIRC they changed after I had been using the EE on occasion, due to the reclassification of posters as "advertisers", "industry partners", etc. Now I know better. Kind of thought the threat was a little excessive in my case, but hey, I wasn't hurt by it. Otherwise, I would have posted a whiny thread! It IS only the internet folks..... |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:42:13 AM EDT
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The Equipment Exchange-we don't warn we act!  By the way in the future when bitching about stokes put his name up there in the title so everyone knows who the meanie is Kevin->  Aimless-> Stokes-> 
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:42:17 AM EDT
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Maybe you need to work on your reading comprehension a bit. READ THE RULES. Otherwise, don't waste your time posting. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:42:51 AM EDT
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I'm not whining, I'm bitching...lol... 
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:45:17 AM EDT
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Nope, not gonna happen, takes me about 5 seconds to ditch your ad, I also zapped 8+ ads at the same time (and ate a bagel with cream cheese) it would have taken me about 40 minutes to warn all 8 guys, then out of that 8 one would have fixed it within 12 hours maybe 3 by sunday night and the other four would ignore me. trust me I tried, oh and then I have to go back and find the ads I warned about and see if they were changed or not and keep checking to see if they are changed or not. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:45:31 AM EDT
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Shiite...I don't even remember who the meanie was!!!! Looks like Brou is shooting for that title though! Go back to your own forum Brou!!! 
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:47:48 AM EDT
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What did you do? That does sound like me, you must have been very very naughty!
edit-whoops tipped my hand there, well if you do it again you'd better bet I'll remember and you'll be in big trouble mister! |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:48:40 AM EDT
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MODS AREN'T HERE TO BE NICE. THEY ARE HERE TO FLEX THEIR TINY MUSCLES. I'VE DONE THE SAME THING, READ THE RULES, AND ADJUSTED MY POST ACCORDINGLY.
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:50:29 AM EDT
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Nothing tiny on me buddy. Besides we are STAFF and are much bigger shots than mere mods. We have extra buttons to flex our egomaniacial muscles with on the internet!
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:50:54 AM EDT
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Maybe the site should think about getting some more mods since you dont have the time to deal with problems the correct way.
Proud of that I guess? Your just the person to represent AR15.com |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:51:17 AM EDT
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Oh shit now you've done it!!! How long until we have 15 on 15 Staff vs. Team members in the Pit?????
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:53:19 AM EDT
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Not long I have extra buttons Besides two people have ever been banned from Full Auto, ones a felon on parole and the other is me
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:55:15 AM EDT
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No you won't because I will hide behind Ed!
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:55:25 AM EDT
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popcorn...check.
some folks are just too high-strung. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:55:31 AM EDT
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Funny yours was the only ad I have seen in "Don't post in bold if you are not an advertiser" and just did not do that. There is a consistent minority that creates most of the work, as I said before i know from experience that asking people to change their ad etc has an extremely low rate of success. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:55:57 AM EDT
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just send the mods a case of ammo or other offerings (or let aimless shoot squierls in a birdbath) and they stop picking on you.
geesh you guys would get nothing accomplished in chicago but i have found that calling staff/mods nasty names always helps out further problems 
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:57:29 AM EDT
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Maybe you should think about reading the freakin' rules so you can post stuff "the correct way" and the mods don't have to clean up your shit. Then you wouldn't have to start these little bitchfests because the mean old mods weren't nice to you. Do you expect to be spoonfed in all areas of your life, or just on the internet? |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:58:11 AM EDT
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Ok first off that was a deer, not a squirrel 2nd it was not IN the birdbath it was sort of in the general vicinity of the birdbath and 3rd although I will admit to pointing my revolver at it I did not actually fire. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 10:58:56 AM EDT
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jnewt - this is a PERFECTLY REASONABLE EXPLANATION. Perhaps you are under the mistaken assumption that the mods and staff are exorbitantly paid and spend all their time to "serve" all the member of ar15.com. What Aimless described is by far the most reasonable way to manage the site, and it would be completely impossible to manage if everyone got the consideration that you want. The fact that staff make efficient choices like this is what makes this site so well-run and effective. I agree it sucks to have your post deleted (and it would irritate me too if it happened to me), but the mods/staff really aren't being unreasonable here. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 11:03:38 AM EDT
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thats whats worng with our society today, bunch of whinners, no one takes responsibilty for thier own actions.
you fucked up and did not read the rules, now you are whinning, stfu and apologize to the mods. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 11:04:28 AM EDT
[#33]
newt, I had a similar problem once. I had spent a lot of time on one ad for a nice scope. At the same time, I posted a few other small "optics" items. I inadvertently went over the "first page" limit for the optics EE forum, and the ad I spent a lot of time on got flushed. I was pissed at the time, because I always play by the rules here and I didn't even get a warning. You have to look at it from the mod/staff perspective, though. It would take an inordinate amount of time to double check each post from each poster that breaks the rules and see if it is their first/second/third offense to determine if a warning should be given or not.
The biggest lesson learned: compose all of your ads in a word processor on your home pc and save them to disk. I do this now anyway, in case of a browser crash. Never assume that anything stored on another computer is safe. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 11:05:11 AM EDT
[#34]
Pie for everyone.
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Posted: 5/7/2004 11:06:33 AM EDT
[#35]
Penguins are bad and scary people, and you shouldn't taunt them. The fat ones are the worst. However, your idea of "the right way" requires a huge amount of time and manpower. We just don't have it.
There are a lot of times where somebody's idea of the right way is not the most efficient or effective. This is just another example. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 11:08:14 AM EDT
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Seriously we have tried other things, when I first started Kevin was very distraught that nothing seemed to get people to comply with the rules and he's the nicey nice one so he decided we would start locking ads and leaving them there so people would catch on what the problems were. We did that for a week or two then stopped, when we stopped we seemed to have the same number of problems as in the beginning.
In addition to reviewing ads there is other "bidness stuff" we have to attend to, not to mention the "damn it superardude72 never sent me my bore snakes can you talk to him?" stuff and the additional non EE related Staff stuff. The problem with adding more mods is that it would add more confusion as well as adding more people to read ads. Already there is confusion between the three of us sometimes, remember that we are (I never thought of this before) at the exact opposition ends of the country from each other and have never even met each other. Plus add in the wiseguys that e-mail all three of us about the same thing without our knowing it, well you get the picture, I hope. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 11:10:04 AM EDT
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IMPORTANT!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Write your ad out in Word or something and save it to your computer at home, THEN paste it into the ad. That way if your ad gets deleted you will have it, but also you will have it if the site farts while you are writing it out-trust me this has happened to me. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 11:14:30 AM EDT
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I always use ubb code in the Topic headline when I want my ad deleted. It's always worked for me!
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Posted: 5/7/2004 11:19:19 AM EDT
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Without Team members the Staff would not be shit!.... I have read up to this point and to tell ya the truth STOKES has always seem'd O.K. by me and I have never had a prob w/ Aimless... I Moderate probs for a living and I would have to say that Aimless's Comments on how long it takes to zap a post and eating a bagle is on the line of being a total Asswipe, Stokes could have just put something in his post that said why it was wiped out...( it is more than clear that the topic would be read, he was asking a question) Jnewt, the rules are there so this shit dont have to happen again... All the way around you have FAILED eachother! Hang you heads in shame and move on!
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Posted: 5/7/2004 11:40:36 AM EDT
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more whinning, why did the mods do anything wrong?? the asshat did not read the rules. period. he screwed up and now wants to blame the system and not himself.mods/staff do not get paid anything for reading every fucking thread and every post in that thread here. they also want to enjoy the forums, have a normal job and a life beyond arfcom. i bet every mod staff spends at least an hour a day minium dealing with people that fail to follow the guidlines. this is a free site, no one pays to post an ad in the ee, all the staff asks is you follow some simple rules. wtf is so hard about that? you fuck up you pay the price. no one is here to wipe your nose now sr staff thats a different story, they get paid over a hundred grand a year to baby sit the mods/staff |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 11:47:08 AM EDT
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So while you are moderating problems for a living is it customary for you to call people asswipes, or is that something you reserve for the anonymity of the internet? While my choice of phrase, which was meant to be humorous and defuse the situation, was poor and might have come across poorly, which is a problem in written v. verbal communication, your foul language and high handed arrogant attitude sounds more like you are a 13 year old than a "professional problem solver." If you think because some sticks "staff" under my name on the internet I am a human target for whatever crap you wish to fling at me you are sadly mistaken. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 11:50:21 AM EDT
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As a systems analyst, I am considered a professional 'problem creator'.
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Posted: 5/7/2004 11:50:35 AM EDT
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So that's what the is for... neat.Is this thread written by a whiner? : It is decidedly so.Hey neat... it works. Should this guy back up his ads? : It is certanSweet! Magic 8 Ball |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 11:56:55 AM EDT
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excuse me but the MODS did nothing wrong. It was STAFF!!
mike ps... i am organizing a pequin hunt in december if anyone is interested
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Posted: 5/7/2004 12:04:01 PM EDT
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Just the EE mods ? I thought they ALL had issues ! Isn't that why they are Mods (and Staff) ?
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Posted: 5/7/2004 12:06:27 PM EDT
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they are too easy to hunt, they just hang out at bird baths or chasing ambulance's
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Posted: 5/7/2004 12:06:37 PM EDT
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No wonder Aimless was pissed. Bringing him down to a level of lowly Mod.
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Posted: 5/7/2004 12:07:26 PM EDT
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OK guys.It's done with,so lets get back to being friendly to the penguins and to tequilabob.
The former can kill your threads and the latter can get you drunk before you suspect anything. Please,cool down and relax! 
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Posted: 5/7/2004 12:09:26 PM EDT
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Penguins scare the shit out of me.
Clowns don't bother me a bit, though. |
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Posted: 5/7/2004 12:12:14 PM EDT
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Damn, Ed, you just threw off my whole post....
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