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Quoted: Do you normally skip the force continuum to just immediately pulling a gun on everyone who tells you they are a federal agent on the job? Lawyer: "were were you taught that at your academy?" Do you do felony stops on every undercover LEO you encounter as well? The video shows very a untrained and unprofessional local PD. Despite tazing a federal officer who states he is having a medical issue. No medical attention was rendered after detaining him for 1 hour. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Shouldn’t have refused to comply and then resisted. Whole thing would have taken 5 minutes if he hadn’t let his ego make decisions for him. Do you normally skip the force continuum to just immediately pulling a gun on everyone who tells you they are a federal agent on the job? Lawyer: "were were you taught that at your academy?" Do you do felony stops on every undercover LEO you encounter as well? The video shows very a untrained and unprofessional local PD. Despite tazing a federal officer who states he is having a medical issue. No medical attention was rendered after detaining him for 1 hour. Umm did you watch the video? The big red trucks, they are fire trucks. Firemen are usually trained to first responder and many to paramedic level. I believe he got assessed. |
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Quoted: GD is so interesting Take a no knock warrant thread- GD always screams “anyone can yell they’re police! That doesn’t mean anything!” This thread “the guy said he was a federal agent! Shoulda believed him!” View Quote You did not read the thread. Prior to the local PD retards arriving on the scene, the dispatcher was told the he was ATF and was read his credentials by the woman calling 911. The arriving officers should have known they were dealing with a potential LEO. His first response on arriving was pulling a gun on a LEO. That's brilliant police work. How it should have gone. We had a call that you are an ATF agent, can I see your credentials? Instead we almost end with a sympathetic shooting situation. My response? Get your LT or 1SGT on the scene, I am not getting on the ground, period. I am not going inconvenience myself because you are incompetent to do your job. Falsely arrest, taze, injure me? I will see you in court. |
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Quoted: @SteelonSteel That part about FLETC was me hinting to him he was ATF, or FED. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fuck the D bag cop. He never gave the guy a chance to show ID. That cop needs a new career. Should I assume you've been thru FLETC? What is almost THE FIRST THING that gets drilled into any LEO not driving a marked unit and/or out of uniform...or out of your usual jurisdiction? FIND THE GOOD DONUT SHOPS Whoops not that one. Uniformed officer on scene is in charge until otherwise advised. Not just Glynco U. but anyplace working plain clothes. Hell I am in uniform but if I am going into the city or a village with a warrant I reach out to the local agency. Dumbass still is arguing with a pistol pointed on him,......that is when even the biggest ego in LE needs to do a reassessment of his plans. You can be right and still shot deader han a door nail. @SteelonSteel That part about FLETC was me hinting to him he was ATF, or FED. there were ummm certain sympathies. |
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Quoted: Local never properly gave ATF man chance to furnish ID/Creds and went right to weapons out. ATF man made it way worse then it needed to be. Shitshow of when asshole collide. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Local never properly gave ATF man chance to furnish ID/Creds and went right to weapons out. ATF man made it way worse then it needed to be. Shitshow of when asshole collide. Seems that way. I also don't care. Quoted: "MY WIFE IS PREGNANT!!!" So was Vickie Weaver. I can't find anything saying she was pregnant. I just remember that she was holding their baby. |
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Quoted: You did not read the thread. Prior to the local PD retards arriving on the scene, the dispatcher was told the he was ATF and was read his credentials by the woman calling 911. The arriving officers should have known they were dealing with a potential LEO. His first response on arriving was pulling a gun on a LEO. That's brilliant police work. How it should have gone. We had a call that you are an ATF agent, can I see your credentials? Instead we almost end with a sympathetic shooting situation. My response? Get your LT or 1SGT on the scene, I am not getting on the ground, period. I am not going inconvenience myself because you are incompetent to do your job. Falsely arrest, taze, injure me? I will see you in court. View Quote "Subject is trying to break in to residence" doesn't quite jive with real LE. The guy was absolute clown shoes. 10 seconds of calmly following commands would have straightened everything out. |
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Oh no! Anyway Jeremy Clarkson Top Gear |
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Quoted: You did not read the thread. Prior to the local PD retards arriving on the scene, the dispatcher was told the he was ATF and was read his credentials by the woman calling 911. The arriving officers should have known they were dealing with a potential LEO. His first response on arriving was pulling a gun on a LEO. That's brilliant police work. How it should have gone. We had a call that you are an ATF agent, can I see your credentials? Instead we almost end with a sympathetic shooting situation. My response? Get your LT or 1SGT on the scene, I am not getting on the ground, period. I am not going inconvenience myself because you are incompetent to do your job. Falsely arrest, taze, injure me? I will see you in court. View Quote So you’re saying the female caller looked at his ID badge and read a number? Didn’t she also report an armed man was trying to break into her home? If it’s both, that’s confusing as hell. And there no way a dispatcher would be able to contact the atf and see if the creds are legit in the time the officer is responding. If I’m on the call and I had both of those aspects of information-I would certainly be wondering why the hell he’s trying to break into her home if he is “legit”. And no prior notice given that he would be there? I’d treat it exactly how they did. “I’m a federal fucking agent” doesn’t exactly portray professionalism of a true federal agent and would have me wondering further if he is legit. Getting on the ground immediately and calmly say “I’m a federal agent working a case. My credentials are in my front right pocket” would have alleviated alot of issues here. |
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As soon as the officer arrives, ATF boy states he is a federal agent.
Attached File Officer Retard says 'turn around let me see your hands' after pulling out his firearm. Attached File Officer Retard says 'get on the ground and show me your ID' despite ATF agent wear credentials around his neck. Attached File Within seconds, Officer Retard realizes he is now dealing with a real LEO and now is fucking with him 'why didn't you show me your ID' after telling him to get on the ground and show him his hands? Multiple contrary commands. Attached File Officer Retard lies. Dispatcher recorded ATF agents credential and badge number from 911 caller prior to arrival. Attached File |
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Quoted: You did not read the thread. Prior to the local PD retards arriving on the scene, the dispatcher was told the he was ATF and was read his credentials by the woman calling 911. The arriving officers should have known they were dealing with a potential LEO. His first response on arriving was pulling a gun on a LEO. That's brilliant police work. How it should have gone. We had a call that you are an ATF agent, can I see your credentials? Instead we almost end with a sympathetic shooting situation. My response? Get your LT or 1SGT on the scene, I am not getting on the ground, period. I am not going inconvenience myself because you are incompetent to do your job. Falsely arrest, taze, injure me? I will see you in court. View Quote Except he wasn't a real cop. He was an ATF agent. They're pretty much just fascist pieces of shit. Not even human, really. I'm pretty sure policemen have to be human. And ATF agents are the product of gay gorilla sex. |
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Originally Posted My response? Get your LT or 1SGT on the scene, I am not getting on the ground, period. I am not going inconvenience myself because you are incompetent to do your job. Falsely arrest, taze, injure me? I will see you in court. View Quote Respect muh authority! |
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The only certainty was that the the uniformed officer was an officer,comply with his demands until you can prove your identity.
don't be an uncooperative asshole like a criminal and don't try to reach into your pocket. |
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Quoted: As soon as the officer arrives, ATF boy states he is a federal agent. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275500/Screenshot_2021-01-13_ATF_Agent_tased__a-1778169.JPG Officer Retard says 'turn around let me see your hands' after pulling out his firearm. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275500/Screenshot_2021-01-13_ATF_Agent_tased__a-1778171.JPG Officer Retard says 'get on the ground and show me your ID' despite ATF agent wear credentials around his neck. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275500/Screenshot_2021-01-13_ATF_Agent_tased__a-1778172.JPG Within seconds, Officer Retard realizes he is now dealing with a real LEO and now is fucking with him 'why didn't you show me your ID' after telling him to get on the ground and show him his hands? Multiple contrary commands. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275500/Screenshot_2021-01-13_ATF_Agent_tased__a-1778182.JPG Officer Retard lies. Dispatcher recorded ATF agents credential and badge number from 911 caller prior to arrival. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275500/Screenshot_2021-01-13_ATF_agent_accuses_-1778194.JPG View Quote Is some random dispatcher supposed to be able to immediately verify that information? Also, just because it was said to the dispatcher doesn’t necessarily mean it got relayed to the responding officers. We don’t know what was told to them before they arrived on scene. Why wasn’t atf guy wearing their super cool uniforms? Attached File |
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Quoted: The only certainty was that the the uniformed officer was an officer,comply with his demands until you can prove your identity. don't be an uncooperative asshole like a criminal and don't try to reach into your pocket. View Quote BULLSHEET! If he did exactly that, what would be my Hump Day Entertainment? |
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LMAO!!!
Vast majority of BATFE agents I've dealt with were douchers. I sat in court one day and watched one botch his testimony. Put a wire on a crackhead and sent her out looking for guns. Found drugs instead. DA tried to prosecute it. I swear to you, the judge said "why was the BATFE finding drugs?". Great question your honor. Dismissed, defendant to be released. |
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Quoted: As soon as the officer arrives, ATF boy states he is a federal agent. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275500/Screenshot_2021-01-13_ATF_Agent_tased__a-1778169.JPG Officer Retard says 'turn around let me see your hands' after pulling out his firearm. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275500/Screenshot_2021-01-13_ATF_Agent_tased__a-1778171.JPG Officer Retard says 'get on the ground and show me your ID' despite ATF agent wear credentials around his neck. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275500/Screenshot_2021-01-13_ATF_Agent_tased__a-1778172.JPG Within seconds, Officer Retard realizes he is now dealing with a real LEO and now is fucking with him 'why didn't you show me your ID' after telling him to get on the ground and show him his hands? Multiple contrary commands. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275500/Screenshot_2021-01-13_ATF_Agent_tased__a-1778182.JPG Officer Retard lies. Dispatcher recorded ATF agents credential and badge number from 911 caller prior to arrival. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/275500/Screenshot_2021-01-13_ATF_agent_accuses_-1778194.JPG View Quote Yeah boi suck that boot so good |
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Quoted: I didn't say anything about that But ask other law enforcement if they consider the atf their "brothers" View Quote You had four words in quote. I guess you meant to emphasize the "BROTHER" part of that. We had a ATF agent at our dojo for a bit. His typical sparring partner (due to age and size) was a NYPD IA Sgt. They were both EXCELLENT at shit-talking, not so good rolling on the mat... |
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God, I needed that. Mr ATF sure handled that one poorly. When he was first ordered to get in the ground he should have said, “Sure; but you’re buying when we get off of work.”
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Quoted: LMAO!!! Vast majority of BATFE agents I've dealt with were douchers. I sat in court one day and watched one botch his testimony. Put a wire on a crackhead and sent her out looking for guns. Found drugs instead. DA tried to prosecute it. I swear to you, the judge said "why was the BATFE finding drugs?". Great question your honor. Dismissed, defendant to be released. View Quote Bullshit. ATF agents have title 21 authority and work drug cases all the time. Not to mention they go to federal court and deal with AUSAs, not local district attorneys. |
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It kinda seemed like Situational Training "acting". The Sound in their voices. The rate in which it all progressed. The lack in information gathered.
Could be precedents video. For future use of force escalation. What's that Mr. Jackson? They tasered you after you notified them you told them you had a medical condition and you had trouble getting your hands behind your back? Well that's standard stuff. Have you not heard about the ATF officer that this also happened to. That's right. You were treated no Differently than a Federal law enforcement officer would be. If you choose to sue anyway. Our defense attorney will easily sway the jury that you were treated in accordance to safety escalation protocols of the highest standards. |
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View Quote Lol |
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Quoted: Local PD knew he was a LEO because dispatcher has his credential information prior to them arriving on the scene. Anyone have PACER creds? https://dockets.justia.com/docket/ohio/ohsdce/2:2020cv06256/249318 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Local PD knew he was a LEO because dispatcher has his credential information prior to them arriving on the scene. When Burk knocked on the door of the home, a person inside called 911 and read the dispatcher Burk's badge number while refusing to open the door. Anyone have PACER creds? https://dockets.justia.com/docket/ohio/ohsdce/2:2020cv06256/249318 I do, but unfortunately pulling something like that probably isn't cheap. I'll take a look later. |
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Quoted: You did not read the thread. Prior to the local PD retards arriving on the scene, the dispatcher was told the he was ATF and was read his credentials by the woman calling 911. The arriving officers should have known they were dealing with a potential LEO. His first response on arriving was pulling a gun on a LEO. That's brilliant police work. How it should have gone. We had a call that you are an ATF agent, can I see your credentials? Instead we almost end with a sympathetic shooting situation. My response? Get your LT or 1SGT on the scene, I am not getting on the ground, period. I am not going inconvenience myself because you are incompetent to do your job. Falsely arrest, taze, injure me? I will see you in court. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: GD is so interesting Take a no knock warrant thread- GD always screams “anyone can yell they’re police! That doesn’t mean anything!” This thread “the guy said he was a federal agent! Shoulda believed him!” You did not read the thread. Prior to the local PD retards arriving on the scene, the dispatcher was told the he was ATF and was read his credentials by the woman calling 911. The arriving officers should have known they were dealing with a potential LEO. His first response on arriving was pulling a gun on a LEO. That's brilliant police work. How it should have gone. We had a call that you are an ATF agent, can I see your credentials? Instead we almost end with a sympathetic shooting situation. My response? Get your LT or 1SGT on the scene, I am not getting on the ground, period. I am not going inconvenience myself because you are incompetent to do your job. Falsely arrest, taze, injure me? I will see you in court. She did not "read" his credentials. He yelled his badge number through the door while refusing to leave. He also tried to force the door open and told her she "had to" open the door, which is false and a violation of her Constitutional rights. I hope she sues him after he settles for $10,000 in pity money. |
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View Quote Lolol |
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Quoted: Quoted: Fuck the D bag cop. He never gave the guy a chance to show ID. That cop needs a new career. When assholes collide... This is the truth Cop went to demanding the guy get face down on the ground way too soon. Should have had him stand there with hands in air until the other cop got there OR had him explain where his ID was, approach and remove ID. ATF guy felt that going face down on the ground was 'beneath' him because as a badge-wearer how dare he be trreated like a criminal. Of course cop hearing this doesn't for a second think about trying to deescalate he just goes into 'ma authoritai has been questioned! YOU MUST OBE! It's more like when assholes play badmitten and just bounce back and forth whose going to be the bigger asshole |
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Quoted: You did not read the thread. Prior to the local PD retards arriving on the scene, the dispatcher was told the he was ATF and was read his credentials by the woman calling 911. The arriving officers should have known they were dealing with a potential LEO. His first response on arriving was pulling a gun on a LEO. That's brilliant police work. How it should have gone. We had a call that you are an ATF agent, can I see your credentials? Instead we almost end with a sympathetic shooting situation. My response? Get your LT or 1SGT on the scene, I am not getting on the ground, period. I am not going inconvenience myself because you are incompetent to do your job. Falsely arrest, taze, injure me? I will see you in court. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: GD is so interesting Take a no knock warrant thread- GD always screams “anyone can yell they’re police! That doesn’t mean anything!” This thread “the guy said he was a federal agent! Shoulda believed him!” You did not read the thread. Prior to the local PD retards arriving on the scene, the dispatcher was told the he was ATF and was read his credentials by the woman calling 911. The arriving officers should have known they were dealing with a potential LEO. His first response on arriving was pulling a gun on a LEO. That's brilliant police work. How it should have gone. We had a call that you are an ATF agent, can I see your credentials? Instead we almost end with a sympathetic shooting situation. My response? Get your LT or 1SGT on the scene, I am not getting on the ground, period. I am not going inconvenience myself because you are incompetent to do your job. Falsely arrest, taze, injure me? I will see you in court. I don’t care who you are, that is about as smart as walking In front of a moving vehicle because you have the right of way. It doesn’t matter how right you were after you get shot for not obeying commands. |
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