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Posted: 4/29/2004 10:10:11 AM EDT
The Prophet Muhammad, one of the most influential religious and military leaders in history, was born in Mecca around 570 CE. When he was 25, Muhammad married a wealthy widow 15 years his senior. He lived the next 15 years as a merchant, and came into contact with many Jewish merchants and landowners in the largely Jewish Kingdom of Himyar in what is today Saudi Arabia and Yemen.
From time to time, Muhammad spent nights in a cave in Mount Hira north of Mecca, ruminating on the social ills of the city caused by the Jews and Jewish converts. Around 610 CE, he had a vision in the cave in which he heard the voice of a majestic being, later identified as the angel Gabriel, say to him, "You are the Messenger of God." Thus began a lifetime of religious revelations, which he and others collected as the Qur'an, or Koran. Muhammad regarded himself as the last prophet of the Judaic-Christian tradition, and he adopted aspects of these older religions' theologies while introducing new doctrines. The Jewish Kingdom of Arabia had grown, its economy stimulated and courted by Rome and Persia during their frequent wars. In 438 CE, the Roman Empress Eudocia removed the ban on Jews' praying at the Temple site, the Roman Emperor Julian in an attempt to sway the Jewish Kingdom of Arabia away from Persia (Iran), in 464 CE announced his intention of rebuilding the Temple. After a 100 years of relative peace, war had broken out again between the West (the Roman empire, what is now called Byzantine) -- and the East (the Persian Empire in what is now called Iran) to control the spice and silk trade to China. The Jewish Himyarite Kingdom had allied itself with its historical ally Persia (see the biblical books of Daniel and Esther) and had fought many battles against the Romans. In the belief of restoration to come, the Jews made an alliance with the Persians who invaded Palestine in 614 CE, fought at their side, overwhelmed the Roman garrison in Jerusalem, and for three to five years governed the city. But the Persians made their peace with the Emperor Heraclius. Christian rule was reestablished. The Persian-Roman peace was disastrous for the Jewish Himyarite Kingdom. Roman forces continued on the offensive. A combined offensive by Roman and Ethiopian forces brought a crushing defeat on the Jewish Convert King Dhu Nuwas. Roman and Ethiopian forces began to pillage the Saudi peninsula, and perform forced conversions to Christianity as they went. Muhammad was at this time 44 years old, and during these catastrophic events, perhaps indeed because of them, he began his ministry. Research has indicated that Muhammad converted to Judaism, like many of the ruling elite, and then put forth his claim as the Jewish Messiah to unite his people in pitched battle against the Christian invaders from the West. It is known that Muhammad required that his followers keep kosher and the fast of Yom Kippur, circumcise and pray facing Jerusalem. In the Qur'an it is recorded that the Jews rejected his claim, and Muhammad in turn renounced them for deserting him. Later many Jewish laws were changed, Muhammad requested that his followers pray toward Mecca, and a new religion was created. Muhammad's militant monotheistic religion came to be called Islam, meaning "surrender [to God]," and its followers were Muslims, meaning "those who have surrendered." His inspired teachings would bring unity to the Arabian peninsula, an event that had sweeping consequences for the rest of the world. By 615, Muhammad had gained about 100 converts in Mecca. He spoke out against rich Jewish merchants, who he criticized as immoral in their greed, and he denounced the Christian worshiping of idols and Trinity, saying, "There is no god but God." Jewish City leaders became hostile to him, and in 619 his uncle Abu Talib died and was succeeded as head of the Hashim clan by another one of Muhammad's uncles, Abu Lahib. Abu Lahib refused to protect Muhammad, and persecution of the prophet and his Muslims increased. In the summer of 621, an entourage of 12 men came to Mecca from Medina, an oasis community 200 miles to the north. They were ostensibly making a pilgrimage to Mecca's pagan shrines, but they had actually come to meet with Muhammad and profess themselves as Muslims. In 622, a larger group of converts from Medina came to Mecca and took an oath to Muhammad to defend him as their own kin. Muhammad immediately encouraged his Meccan followers to make their way to Medina in small groups. When city authorities learned that the Muslims had begun an exodus, they plotted to have the prophet killed. Under this threat, Muhammad slipped away unnoticed with a chief disciple and made his way to the largely Jewish city of Medina, using unfrequented paths. He completed the celebrated Hegira (Hijrah in uncorrupted Arabic) on September 24, 622. The history of Islam had begun. At Medina, Muhammad overthrew the ruling Jewish elite, confiscated Jewish land, built a theocratic state, and led raids on trading caravans from Mecca. Attempts by Meccan armies to defeat the Muslim forces failed, and several leading Meccans immigrated to Medina and became Muslims. Three years later, Arab hostility against the Jews showed itself, when an Islamic army exterminated the Jewish community of Quraiza. As a result of the Prophet Muhammad's resentment, the Qur'an itself contains many of hostile denunciations of Jews and bitter attacks upon the Jewish tradition, which undoubtedly have colored the beliefs of religious Muslims down to the present. Omar, the caliph who succeeded Muhammad, delineated in his Charter of Omar the twelve laws under which a dhimmi, or non-Muslim, was allowed to exist as a "nonbeliever" among "believers." The Charter codified the conditions of life for Jews under Islam -- a life which was forfeited if the dhimmi broke this law. Among the restrictions of the Charter: Jews were forbidden to touch the Qur'an; forced to wear a distinctive (sometimes dark blue or black) habit with sash; compelled to wear a yellow piece of cloth as a badge (blue for Christians); not allowed to perform their religious practices in public; not allowed to own a horse, because horses were deemed noble; not permitted to drink wine in public; and required to bury their dead without letting their grief be heard by the Muslims. The spread of Islam continued after the fragmentation of the Arab empire, and many societies in Africa and Asia adopted Muhammad's religion. Today, Islam is the world's second-largest religion. Ah yes, the Religion of Peace and Love. It wasn't really about hating people and taking their shit while subjegating them to a secondary class....oh wait....it was. |
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Enough of this--7.) Posting topics or discussions with the desire to do the site or community harm. More specifically creating topics meant to disrupt the site's day to day management, disrupt member's resources, or disrupt the ability for the site to fun
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Enough of this--7.) Posting topics or discussions with the desire to do the site or community harm. More specifically creating topics meant to disrupt the site's day to day management, disrupt member's resources, or disrupt the ability for the site to fun
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Thanks Beekeeper. There is some good info here, stuff I wondered about but really didn't know where to look. Talk to ya'll later.
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<SIGH> Sgtar15 |
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That's just like The Man. Lock first, review later!!! motown_X |
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Yeah, I'd like a source too.
I have often wondered about what exactly Mohammad's relationship to Judism was, since Islamic law is so close to Mosaic Law in many respects. |
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I was involved in something interesting once. I had to attend a Diversity class off-site for my company because we were going to be involved with some muslims. We were given a 4 hour course on Islam. No joke. One of the first exercises was a handout with 20 scriptures on it. You were supposed to mark them as whether you thought they were from the Koran or the Bible. Now, I read the Bible daily, and immediately recognized that all of them were not from the Bible. I even told my buddy that they were all non-Biblical. He had them marked about 50-50. Well, the instructor asked if we were all finished and then went through them one by one and sure enough, they were all from the Koran. It was not only that I realized that they were non-Biblical because I didn't recognize them, but they were un-Biblical in their content. Once, as a policeman, I attended a course by the Secret Service about conterfeit money. They said that their agents spent hours and hours studying real money. They hardly even looked at fake money. But once you were familiar enough with the real thing, it was easy to spot fake money. Likewise, with the Word. |
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Tagged. Edited to add: "My Active Topics" ain't working....yet. |
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mentally tagged Good read |
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glad it was unlocked, but REALLY curious why it was locked in the first place.
Plenty of real information about the foundations of Islam out there folks (admins), better read some (other than what the apologists / dissemblers have to say about it). I'm wondering about the reasoning capabilities of some people here - presented with a wealth of real factual information, they either fail to acknowledge it, or call the messenger a 'hater'. Or reflexively LOCK a thread about Islam. As long as the information presented is sourced, factual, historically accurate, and kept in some sort of context, how can it be denied or labelled anything? Learn about Islam. Whether Islam is directly responsible, or as some claim, been perverted, is open to debate. But the factual litany of global terrorism and mass murders committed in the name of Allah is NOT. They ARE happening, and whether Islam is hijacked or not, those attacks and those perpetrating them MUST be dealt with effectively and decisively, with no time or effort wasted on the niceties of 'Political Correctness'. Read from the follwing links, you'll have some idea of the global reach of the problem - Jihad Watch MEMRI - MiddleEast Media Research Institute The Thais just handled things correctly - some pics Plenty of news stories about the problems in their territories bordering with Malaysia. a few days ago in the same province, the same band of jihadis was rasing hell - Two killed, 15 schools on fire in Thai Muslim south Churches burned in Kosovo last month. Jordanian UN security troops open fire on and kill US-UN troops in Kosovo last week, 100,000 killed in the Sudan by muslims in the last year. Muslim violence all over northern India, against Hindus, weekly. The bombings against Western tourists in Bali Bombing of British Bank in Turkey, killing mainly dozens of muslims Bombings in Casablanca, Morrocco, killing mainly dozens of muslims. Bombings of Shia holy day celebrations in Iraq, killing muslimsmuslims. Multiple bombings of Shiites in Karbala and Najaf Bombing of Marriott Hotel in Jakarta, killing mainly muslims and buddhists. Just look at a few global sources, you'll see that murders, mass-killings are occuring EVERYWHERE that Islam is a majority religion, or even a significant minority. Again I say, if there are "moderate" Muslims, you need to stop providing funding, shelter and cover to the "radicals" in your midst. We're 30yrs into a global jihad, and we have folks HERE at ARFCOM calling other board members 'haters' for daring to point it out. |
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and lastly - speaking of apologists and dissemblers for Islam - look at Campus Watch to read about the Saudi-Wahhabi-funded "Muslim Student Associations" being planted in major US universities, distorting Islamic Arab history, seeking to suppress any criticism of Islam.
Or read about the very real ties to Terrorism / Terrorist Orgnizations by CAIR - Frontpage article CAIR's reps routinely show up on sympathetic media networks to shuck and jive / dissemble about Terrorism. |
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Great analogy, OP! |
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Even better. a Rabbi who posted a bibliography for his site. Cool. |
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Various. Any of the historical points can easily be referrenced. Only Islamic religious sources will omit or contradict some points. |
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Heh,
I'm glad this got unlocked...read it at work and wondered why it got locked...inciting and insiteful. |
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Awesome story OP. |
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You mean this religon is based on expansion by the sword and treachery? say it ain't so!
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Here's some more 'Islam in their own words' info -
Call For Incorporating Sharia Into International Law
They mean to rule the World, and are using our own petrodollars to do it to us. And lastly - the US gives Egypt $2 BILLION / yr in Aid, and in return we get constant anti-American incitement in their state-run media. |
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and here's a site with 111 Jihad-related verses in the Koran - The Koran’s 111 Jihad Verses
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And 9 days later, we have the Neil Berg atrocity, the butchers chanted 'Allah Ackbar!' while sawing at his neck.
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