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so true, so true. I took a quick look around my apartment and found the same foriegn made crap everywhere. Except for a few weapons. I have to agree that big corporations and the US government are the real villians here. it is difficult to find American made goods at comparable prices today. I am not very wealthy, so I try to get the most out of my money when buying household items. I will start to look for more US made products when making purchases. The only problem is that we, the American citizens and consumers, have been sold out by the big wigs and they made it very hard for true American small buisinesses to compete with the corporations that use cheap foriegn labor. This reply was MADE IN USA on a mostly foriegn computer.

I've been trying to only buy American-made products, but they are sure as hell hard to find, these days.

Heck, even trying to NOT buy ChiCom stuff is a pain in the pockets... But well worth the effort, in my estimation.

Semper Fi!

Ken Little

"In Germany average manager pay is appx 10 times avg. worker pay. In the US avg. manager pay is 100 times the avg worker pay."

The BS flag is raised and is flying high. Let's figure shall we?

Let's say that the "average" American worker makes minumim wage plus a few cents. Remember "average" counts 18 year old kids at McD's and union welders with 40 years - minimum wage plus a few cents, figure $7 an hour. I would guess closer to $20-25 an hour but let's just say $7.

$7 x $100 = $700 an hour for an "average manager", not an owner, not a senior executive, an "average manager". $5600 a day, $39,200 a week, $78,400 a paycheck and finally just over FOUR MILLION dollars a year for an "average manager". This doesn't include bonuses! If we went with the $20 and hour guess this would be over 12 million dollars a year for an "average manager"

I am an above manager and make about an "average managers" two week take. What am I doing wrong? Thank God that I don't live in Germany where I'd be making one tenth of what I get.

Does anyone concider the FACT that American workers have the among the highest pay and productivity in the world?

One of the liberals (socialist) primary weapons against conservatives is the class war. Over and over again it has been used to raise my taxes. Every time the liberals say workingmen and women need something I know that I’m taking it in the shorts. I work for a living too, and trust me, much harder than most workingmen that I know.

Our “poor” workingmen and women still make a metric butt ton more money than the poor of other countries. Don't fall into this simple trap. Unlike socialist states there is nothing except your talents and drive standing between you and a good life. Dropped out of school, have no education, no drive, no motivation short of where’s that nice cold six pack coming from… don't go taking my life energy out of my pocket for something more that you don't deserve. Quit taking food off of my table for yours using the strong arm of the government.

Want to compare the "average construction worker" in Thailand to one in Chicago? The daily wage in Thailand working concrete in Bangkok is 100 to 120B a ten-hour day. That's under $5. When you don’t work in Thailand you starve. I would guess that the average construction worker in Chicago is bring home more money that this manager.

I’ve been around the world a number of times on Uncle Sam’s dime. Go look at what you’re asking for before you open your mouth again. Socialism is what you want and it sucks. Look at Africa and Eastern Europe for some good examples.

Yeah the US sure looks good when you compare it to Bangladesh and Botswana.

The problem is that when you compare it to other western industrialized countries, the fact is that the american worker has taken it in the shorts over the last couple of decades.

Despite the enormous economic growth over the past 10 years in the US economy, real wages (adjusted buying power) for the lower half of all income earners in the US has not increased at all, and in many cases it has decreased.  However, an enormous amount of wealth has been created - practially all of which has gone to the top income earners.  

Look at what's happening right now.  All sorts of tax breaks are going to happen - all based on the justification that the "average joe" needs a break - whereas in reality the avergae family will get a small token break, and the rich guys will be laughing all the way to the bank.  Remember the "death tax"?  It will ONLY benefit rich people who inherit other rich people - there had never been a documented case of a family farm or business being lost because of this tax which should be called the "rich kid's tax".

Democrat or republican - the system is not designed to help the american worker - and the original story in this thread is the result.