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Lots of rivets or bolt heads on the outside. Reminds me of Japanese light tanks in WWII.
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It's far too nice to risk in combat.
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Looks nice and the graphics are cool. Other than that I know nothing and am tagging this thread to learn more from smart people.
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I could be biased because my experience is with a pretty bare-bones vehicle where the closest thing to computers was the gunners thermal and the radio, but I have some doubts about the real-world viability of ground vehicles that are this heavily dependent on computers.
I get that they're able to make it work with fighter jets, but fighter jets aren't driving through mud and sand. |
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Pentagon Wars - Bradley Fighting Vehicle Evolution "The men will have to wear the missiles as hats". |
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The specs on the chart are wrong. I am pretty sure that the average soldier is taller than 1.7 meters.
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Quoted: The slopes are inside. View Quote I have been to Singapore. The one photo where they show lots of tree's must of been the only spot in Singapore that they had tree's that wasn't on some sort of mountain. Love the city.. but having hardly any "Nature" outside of the seaport sucked. Have to go to Malaysia to enjoy the wilderness. |
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I could be biased because my experience is with a pretty bare-bones vehicle where the closest thing to computers was the gunners thermal and the radio, but I have some doubts about the real-world viability of ground vehicles that are this heavily dependent on computers. I get that they're able to make it work with fighter jets, but fighter jets aren't driving through mud and sand. View Quote |
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A whole 500 rounds for the coax? What a joke that is. Looks like they just fancied up a vehicle they already owned/manufactured.
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I could be biased because my experience is with a pretty bare-bones vehicle where the closest thing to computers was the gunners thermal and the radio, but I have some doubts about the real-world viability of ground vehicles that are this heavily dependent on computers. I get that they're able to make it work with fighter jets, but fighter jets aren't driving through mud and sand. View Quote And even if it's not 100% hard core survive anything ruggedized I'm sure it's fine for Singapore. Singapores military strategy is built around -
At the end of the day Singapores military is set up to deter first, and if military deterrence and political diplomacy fails they're there simply to defend the government and population clusters until allied nations can offer assistance. |
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I could be biased because my experience is with a pretty bare-bones vehicle where the closest thing to computers was the gunners thermal and the radio, but I have some doubts about the real-world viability of ground vehicles that are this heavily dependent on computers. I get that they're able to make it work with fighter jets, but fighter jets aren't driving through mud and sand. View Quote |
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Genuine question from a non-tanker - why are the smoke grenade launchers still a thing?
Wouldn’t driving as fast as you can be a better deterrent against rpg’s? |
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Armor looks thin... Looking at the holes and most joints it’s 1/8”-1/4” thick...
Also formed/bent panels... It’s called armor plate for a reason. Most must be welded, bolted, forge or cast. Even if it is heat treated after bends are made it still not as strong... |
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The cameras are neat, but easily defeatable for anyone willing to give it a go.
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Damn, 3.4m tall...that's going to be an easy target. Tracked? Why the hell go tracks instead of wheels?
I thought the Stryker was pants on head retarded, but this looks like a modernized M113. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA "The men will have to wear the missiles as hats". View Quote It was viciously attacked by NYC media talking heads for almost the entire decade of the 1980's. And when it did so well in Iraq, not a peep. All those assholes were wrong. |
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Thanks to this thread, I’ve learned that a 30mm gun is too small, even though it’s bigger than the 25mm gun on a Bradley and the same caliber as the oft-loved gun on the A-10.
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Well, according to the press release, it is supposed to be the replacement for the old M113s that are still in service. Seems to be the mentality that armor units use tracked vehicles, infantry wheels. And we've already got our own version of the Stryker in use by the Infantry formations. https://i.imgur.com/9zKzvhi.jpg https://i.imgur.com/T4U6LKb.jpg https://i.imgur.com/k0rITGM.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cVJWUzA.jpg There's still the Bionix in service https://i.imgur.com/1MWGHEB.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Damn, 3.4m tall...that's going to be an easy target. Tracked? Why the hell go tracks instead of wheels? I thought the Stryker was pants on head retarded, but this looks like a modernized M113. Seems to be the mentality that armor units use tracked vehicles, infantry wheels. And we've already got our own version of the Stryker in use by the Infantry formations. https://i.imgur.com/9zKzvhi.jpg The Hunter is a next generation drive-by-wire tracked AFV that will replace Singapore Army M-113 armoured personnel carriers. The Hunter was designed and made in Singapore by the Singapore Army weapons staff, Defence Science & Technology Agency (DSTA) and ST Engineering Land Systems. The project began in 2006 with the aim of delivering a digitised AFV with enhanced capabilities for the next generation army. Several prototypes were developed before the final design freeze. Hunter was commissioned into service on 11 June 2019 by Minister for Defence, Dr Ng Eng Hen, at the 50th anniversary parade of the Singapore Army Armour formation. As of 11 June 2019, five variants were announced. These variants are Combat, Command, Bridgelayer, Recovery and Armoured Engineer. https://i.imgur.com/k0rITGM.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cVJWUzA.jpg There's still the Bionix in service https://i.imgur.com/1MWGHEB.jpg At nearly 30 tons, these would be well past that overlap range. The Stryker is less than 20 tons. Completely different animal. |
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Quoted: United Defense (back when they were still a thing) had done a lot of internal research on tracks versus wheels. IIRC, they determined that the 20 ton range was about the magic point tracks became superior, with a bit of overlap between 19-21 tons there where it could go either way. At nearly 30 tons, these would be well passed that overlap range. The Stryker is less than 20 tons. Completely different animal. View Quote This IFV just seems to want to do too many different things to where it's not good at anything. Time will tell, I guess. |
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Are those M113 hulls that they just recycled with a bolt on kit of some kind?
Kinda looks like it to me, but I didn’t sleep in an Armored Inn Express last night, so I’ll defer. |
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Why does an urban Island nation need such a machine? If they want it good for them but who are they fighting? & with no amphibious capability it seems stupid to build it for an island nation. As usual I'm sure these questions seem dumb to those in the know. - but this is Singapore https://geology.com/world/singapore-map.gif View Quote |
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