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Posted: 1/1/2004 4:32:00 PM EDT
Just for fun, and no other reason.


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Link Posted: 1/1/2004 4:36:43 PM EDT
[#1]
Thanks for the pic! [:D]
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 4:38:33 PM EDT
[#2]
Looks a little over done.  
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 4:43:42 PM EDT
[#3]
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 4:47:46 PM EDT
[#4]
Very, very useful accouterments in an enclosed area filled with something approaching or exceeding 1 person per square foot. Just Brilliant.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 4:48:00 PM EDT
[#5]

So one of them POC cops goes to shoot a BG, empties his mag, hits 30 bystanders and the BG gets away.

But, who cares, the cop went home safely
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 4:50:24 PM EDT
[#6]
[img]http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031228/i/r379738915.jpg[/img]
ACHTUNG !! You vill have your paperz ready for inspection !!
That looks like a pic right out of 1940's france.
I feel safer.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 4:51:16 PM EDT
[#7]
Some nice pics, but has anyone else noticed how they resemble pics from Israel?
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 4:51:36 PM EDT
[#8]
I thought it was illegal to loiter while wearing a ski mask in NY???

Why do i automatically assume that
1) all or most LEO's are horrible shots
2) anyone from NYC MUST be a horrible shot

must be a Texas thing
(actually the leo's I've seen down here cant shoot for crap either)


Link Posted: 1/1/2004 4:54:17 PM EDT
[#9]
[img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031231/capt.xdk10112311530.new_years_security_xdk101.jpg[/img]
I wish they had showed us how to work these things.                                          

[img]http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20031230/i/r2858556341.jpg[/img]
Ya got any donuts left ?

[:D] I just couldn't resist. [:D]
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 4:55:18 PM EDT
[#10]
seing "soldiers" on the street gives me an uneasy feeling
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 4:56:02 PM EDT
[#11]
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:19:22 PM EDT
[#12]
LMAO...this was so predictable.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:22:06 PM EDT
[#13]
Aimpoints galore!
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:23:32 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I thought it was illegal to lioter while wearing a ski mask in NY???

Why do i automatically assume that
1) all or most LEO's are horrible shots
2) anyone from NYC MUST be a horrible shot

must be a Texas thing
(actually the leo's I've seen down here cant shoot for crap either)
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YA, what he said! I don't trust most LEO shooting. I'm a average shot and I out shoot LEO all the time. Take the standard poor marksmanship of the average LEO and make it WORSE by it being a bunch of Yankee Doodle Dandies and then make it EVEN WORSE buy it being a bunch of NYC cops, ya there would be alot of dead people laying around and most of them wouldn't be the bad guys.

They look like a bunch of NAZIS but NYC is a socialist ran city. People take pictures like this because WE as Americans aren't use to seeing Police/Para-military/Security Personnel carrying automatic weapons around. I've been to third world counties where seeing machineguns carrying police isn't out of place and every one of those countrys don't enjoy the freedom that we do.

I dream of a day when America is free once again and seeing ANYONE with a automatic weapon isn't out of place.

AND SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE SKI MASK ARE FOR? Reminds me of the KKK hiding behind their hoods.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:31:00 PM EDT
[#15]
Nice JBT pics.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:35:13 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
AND SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE SKI MASK ARE FOR? Reminds me of the KKK hiding behind their hoods.
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COULD IT POSSIBLY BE THAT ITS JAN 1ST IN NEW YORK CITY AND ITS FUCKING COLD AND HE'S SPENDING 8HRS WALKING THE STREETS???

OH NO, THAT'D BE TOO SIMPLE.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:36:24 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
They better be careful, with Surefire's new "we don't need you" pricing policy there's likely to be Surefire Snatchers in NYC!

"Yo man how much for the light!?"
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I was thinking to myself- "MUST BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A SUREFIRE!"
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:41:21 PM EDT
[#18]
There was a totally HOT NYPD CHICK-COP with an M-4 standing in the back ground of fox news...  can't find a shot of it onthe net.

Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:47:14 PM EDT
[#19]
I knew I'd seen this picture before...

[red][i]Pic removed at the request of thebeekeeper1.[/i][/red]
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:47:16 PM EDT
[#20]
1. Nobody else, including the other cops, is wearing a ski mask. That suggests that he is either a) very sensitive to cold, b) somebody from a narcotics or similar unit who works undercover & was dragooned into uniform service for New Year's, but whose anonymity is important to his safety & effectiveness the rest of the time, or c) an asshole. Could be any one of the three. Probably "b" if I had to bet money on it.

2. It is creepy to see men with military-style weapons and fritz helmets standing around on the streets in uniform. Whether you think doing it is a good idea or not, it is an unsettling image.

3. In Israel, the cops (and yes, they are cruising around with automatic rifles, scoped rifles, SMGs, et c., and driving jeeps & HMMVWs) are very low-key and one hardly notices them, mostly because off-duty soldiers carry their weapons all the time, which means that there are more 19 year-olds carrying M16s and Uzis than there are policemen, period, almost everywhere you go. Also, civilian concealed carry seems to be very common (or else I was being tracked by Mossad agents of all ages, colors, shapes, and sizes, which ain't likely).

4. I have no criticism of the officers in the photos. I am just wondering who decided that [presumably] automatic rifles are a good choice for Times Square on New Year's Eve. If you - policeman or not- lit off an automatic rifle at [b]anybody[/b] in that crowd for any reason, you would either go to jail or go down in history as the greatest rifleman since Alvin York.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:52:08 PM EDT
[#21]
[i]Quoted:[/i]

[i]They look like a bunch of NAZIS but NYC is a socialist ran city. People take pictures like this because WE as Americans aren't use to seeing Police/Para-military/Security Personnel carrying automatic weapons around[/i]
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I'm sure those aren't automatic versions of the M4. Those NYPD dingdongs have little or no training with auto weapons, let alone semi-auto versions. I still have trouble seeing preban features legal only for LEO use. That is [b]TOTAL BULLSHIT[/b]
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:55:37 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
I still have trouble seeing preban features legal only for LEO use. That is [b]TOTAL BULLSHIT[/b]
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Come on, dude. Isn't it obvious that bayonets and flash hiders are prticularly suitable - and necessary - for law enforcement applications.?
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:57:39 PM EDT
[#23]
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:58:25 PM EDT
[#24]
Never thought I would see that shit in the USA.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 5:58:40 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:

Why do i automatically assume that
2) anyone from NYC MUST be a horrible shot

must be a Texas thing
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If New Yorkers are such terrible shots why aren't the Stars and Bars flying over our Capitol in lieu of Old Glory?
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:02:33 PM EDT
[#26]
ski mask + all black + gun = bad guy.

Shoot first.
- per jeff cooper
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:02:59 PM EDT
[#27]
I wonder how many that saw this in person are wanting one of those cool EBR's about right now?

Those captioned and doctored up pics are cool.

Danny
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:05:26 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
[i]Quoted:[/i]

[i]They look like a bunch of NAZIS but NYC is a socialist ran city. People take pictures like this because WE as Americans aren't use to seeing Police/Para-military/Security Personnel carrying automatic weapons around[/i]
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I'm sure those aren't automatic versions of the M4. Those NYPD dingdongs have little or no training with auto weapons, let alone semi-auto versions. I still have trouble seeing preban features legal only for LEO use. That is [b]TOTAL BULLSHIT[/b]
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I agree. It is TOTAL BULLSHIT for LEO to be useing weapons with preban features.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:07:52 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Why do i automatically assume that
2) anyone from NYC MUST be a horrible shot

must be a Texas thing
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If us New Yorkers (and Northerners in general)are such terrible shots, why aren't the Stars and Bars flying over our Capitol in lieu of Old Glory?
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[ROFL2]

Chris got you there!

And, I bet they are semi-autos too (seriously).

Danny
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:08:01 PM EDT
[#30]
yeah, preban police rifles, they do not need any evil bayo lugs either, they should only be allowed by law to have the same as any civilian
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:08:46 PM EDT
[#31]
If Police or Military needs it, CIVILIANS NEED IT.

Same goes with M1A2 Abrams tanks, 10 Megaton Hydrogen Bombs, FAE Bombs, Bradley APC/Fighting Vehicles...  The works.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:14:58 PM EDT
[#32]
[/quote]Oh southerners shoot better than Yankees? You must have been practicing, you guys surrendered after the last shoot out we had with you. [lol]

YEEEEEHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cousin, we got us hear a feud started!!!!!!! Them Yankee Doodle Dandies sho do have sum perty mouths!!!
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:15:47 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Why do i automatically assume that
2) anyone from NYC MUST be a horrible shot

must be a Texas thing
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If us New Yorkers (and Northerners in general)are such terrible shots, why aren't the Stars and Bars flying over our Capitol in lieu of Old Glory?
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I can't help but notice that it was some Yankees that brought this up... Feeling guilty? Resentment, perhaps?

You know, the South was the correct side of that war.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:20:07 PM EDT
[#34]
[img]us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031231/capt.xdk10112311530.new_years_security_xdk101.jpg[/img]

*click* "Uh-oh. What's that button do?"
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:20:35 PM EDT
[#35]
DUCKKKKKKK!!!! THE PISS IS A FLYIN!!!!!!
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:23:20 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
I can't help but notice that it was some Yankees that brought this up... Feeling guilty? Resentment, perhaps?

You know, the South was the correct side of that war.
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You can try and justify it to yourself any way it makes you feel better.. All I know is you Texans are too scared to even shoot back at the Mexican Army..[LOL]

I smell a feud brewing![;)]
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:27:04 PM EDT
[#37]
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:33:10 PM EDT
[#38]
OOOOHHHHHHH!!!! BELOW THE BELT! PENALTY!!![moon]
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:49:27 PM EDT
[#39]
If I remember correctly from my high school US history (I had a confederate teacher, mind you), Slavery was starting to die out anyway and eventually would have without any help from the north.

Somebody pick this up if I'm wrong.  I can't really remember and I'm too lazy to research it. Make sure you know for sure before you blast me with those flamethrowers [;)].

Patrick
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:52:13 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:

So one of them POC cops goes to shoot a BG, empties his mag, hits 30 bystanders and the BG gets away.

But, who cares, the cop went home safely
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Dear Lord, Man. Get a hobby... Well another one... Geeze.

I assume you know one of those guys? Which is the Piece of Crap?
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 6:56:11 PM EDT
[#41]
YA got to wonder.  IF the actual "normal people" cannot have one of the M4s in NYC.  Why should the cops?

I still like the idea of driving down broadway in a tank with a "I love NY" bumper sticker on the barrel.


Edited because my fingers resist typing.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 7:14:30 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:

Um if you read the thread you'll see it was southerners that started the Yankee/NYC nonsense.
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I was refering to the Civil War comments.


And no the South wasn't, if the fantasy of the noble civil war southner makes you feel good, great; but the facts are yes the civil war was fought so the evil slavelords of the South could keep their economy based on making others do their physical labor, I know that's against "new Southern PC" but the facts are the facts.
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Yes, the South was. The North was what now would be called "Liberal" and the South "Conservative." The North was power-hungry, and was taxing the South wrongly.

There's more, but I'm tired, back me up, guys.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 7:19:13 PM EDT
[#43]
some of you guys crack me up....was there a terrorist attack? then we must have done something right
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 7:20:26 PM EDT
[#44]
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 7:27:05 PM EDT
[#45]
[red]Consider the circumstances - Cops don't walk the streets of NYC every day toting the M4.[/red]

I suppose some of the cop bashers here would prefer to see the LE's with .38 service revolvers and "Less Lethal" shotgun rounds.

If the SHTF during the celebration and FOX News aired footage of cops whacking a few members of the Alah for President Fan Club;
many of you bashers would be singing LE praise hymns. You can't have it both ways.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 7:29:33 PM EDT
[#46]
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 7:33:58 PM EDT
[#47]
What happened to all the Mini-14s they had? When did they ditch them for the M4s?


Re: Civil War. The problem was all the compromises had finally reached a breaking point. It started with the 3/5ths compromise and pretty much ended when the Maine/Missouri compromise was ruled unConstitutional. Was it about state's rights?

Yes. But the most debated issue was whether or not a state would be a slave state or not. From the beginning the South was afraid the North would outlaw slavery, thus the 3/5ths compromise, and the South's economic base would be diminished. Slavery would have begun to die in the 1880s and 1890s as industrialization took hold. The ironic part is the North was largely responsible for those inventions that would have made slavery irrelevant. The fact is slavery should have never been allowed to exist in a country that touted freedom. The Civil War was our pennance for that evil.

Yes the pendulum of power swung too far to the Federal government, but that was more a device of the income tax than the Civil War, IMO (the power to tax being the power to destroy and all).
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 7:38:13 PM EDT
[#48]
Come on....  how many of our ARFCOM commandos dress like that for no reason...  give a guy a break.

I miss the ACC556 pictures we used to get every year of the NYPD. [:D]  
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 7:49:59 PM EDT
[#49]
I too am usettled by those images.  I hoped to never see something like that in this country in my lifetime.  It indicates to me that the terrorists won.

And incidentally, saying that "nothing happened so they must have done a good job" is ridiculous.  If you can't figure out why, I don't really know what to tell you.
Link Posted: 1/1/2004 7:59:54 PM EDT
[#50]
[img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031231/capt.xdk10112311530.new_years_security_xdk101.jpg[/img]
'I see you Mr.Bug geesh is my shift over yet'
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