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Posted: 1/1/2004 5:52:50 AM EDT
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He's a commie.
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Posted: 1/1/2004 5:58:09 AM EDT
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I elieve he and another of his friends, Waylon Jennings possibly, caught a lot of flack in the eighties for preforming fund rasiers for the Indians convicted of killing FBI agents in the 70's. Somethin about the akeover of the historic site at Wounded Knee. Looking for links now... fullclip |
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Posted: 1/1/2004 6:01:12 AM EDT
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Willie believes in smoking dope and having a “good” time. He has killed way to many brain cells to be taken seriously.
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Posted: 1/1/2004 6:01:46 AM EDT
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No, Toby Keith believed in fighting bad guys. Willie believed in getting some money from a commercially successful song to help him pay his tax debts.
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Posted: 1/1/2004 6:04:03 AM EDT
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yeah....and a hypocrite.
..and we'll raise up our glasses, against evil forces....my ass. Why don't y'all run that pinko millionaire out of Texas? -HS |
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Posted: 1/1/2004 6:08:55 AM EDT
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He's so seldom here in Texas that we never get a chance.
I thought that the whiskey and weed would get to him one day. Well, that 'one day' was years and years ago! The benefit was for two-FBI-agents-slayer/executioner Leonard Peltier, a bigger POS you could never find! But he was an AIM hero, and still is, but has been relegated to the back seat of the Liberal Pity Bus, while that freaking police killer Mumbo Jumbo Mumia, or whatever his name is, sits up front! Eric The(NotSurprised)Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 1/1/2004 6:15:30 AM EDT
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Careful, Eric. You're starting to sound bitter. [:D]
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Posted: 1/1/2004 6:22:07 AM EDT
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Even Bill Clinton refused to sign a pardon/clemency for Leonard Peltier in his last days in office. He must really be trash if Clinton avoided him... fullclip |
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Posted: 1/1/2004 6:59:01 AM EDT
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He's trash, always has been, tried ripping off all the taxpayers, then gets his liberal friends & public to pay his tab. He wrote and sang a protest song during Gulf War 1 too. He needs to move in with the fat Dipsy Chix and they can combine their spew.
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Posted: 1/1/2004 7:11:23 AM EDT
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hippy trash
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Posted: 1/1/2004 7:56:56 AM EDT
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Quoted: He's so seldom here in Texas that we never get a chance. I thought that the whiskey and weed would get to him one day. Well, that 'one day' was years and years ago! The benefit was for two-FBI-agents-slayer/executioner Leonard Peltier, a bigger POS you could never find! But he was an AIM hero, and still is, but has been relegated to the back seat of the Liberal Pity Bus, while that freaking police killer Mumbo Jumbo Mumia, or whatever his name is, sits up front! Eric The(NotSurprised)Hun[>]:)] Eric, As usual, your have your opinions and aren't shy about sharing them. However, it seems that your opinion in this case comes strictly from the .gov side. May I suggest the book "In The Spirit Of Crazy Horse", by Peter Matthiessen. It is thoroughly researched and documented, the type of reading I think you can appreciate. He makes a strong case that the FBI lied, fabricated evidence, and manipulated evidence to ensure that somebody- anybody- would see prison for the deaths of those two agents. I think by now you guys know I'm not some leftist liberal whacko. I don't campaign against sports team names like the Braves and Chiefs. After reading Matthiessen's book I am convinced that justice was not served in this case. An example from many discrepancies is: Critical ballistic information reflecting Mr. Peltier's innocence was withheld from the defense team, making a fair trial impossible. Specifically, at the trial, the FBI ballistic expert, Evan Hodge, testified that he had been unable to perform the best test, a firing pin test, on certain casings found near the agents' car, because the rifle in question had been damaged in a fire. Instead, he stated that he had conducted an extractor mark test, and found the casing and weapon to match. Years later, documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act showed that in October 1975 a firing pin ballistic test had indeed been performed on the rifle and that the results were clearly negative. In short, the fatal bullet did not come from Leonard Peltier's weapon. The jury never heard about any of these crucial issues. (From [url]http://www.freepeltier.org/peltier_faq.htm[/url] I'd recommend reading the book and digging a bit further. |
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Posted: 1/1/2004 8:20:25 AM EDT
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Brohawk said: I think by now you guys know I'm not some leftist liberal whacko. Well, I did until I read this left-wing, liberal, pinko, commie drivel. Just kidding. [:D] |
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Posted: 1/1/2004 8:38:05 AM EDT
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Then, [b]Brother Brohawk[/b], Leonard Peltier is rotting in jail for being with someone who fired the fatal shots, the last ones being fired 'execution style' on the two wounded agents, and not fessing up on who that other shooter was!
He [u]admits[/u] that he fired shots that day, but claimed that he didn't hit anyone! His two accomplices, er, excuse me, friends, Darrelle "Dino" Butler and Robert Robideau, were both acquitted by the jury. It was obvious that one of the three pulled the trigger, and if 'Shackled Eagle', as the liberal/commie folks still call him, felt so much 'solidarity' with the other two that he didn't wish to testify as to who it was that actually pulled the trigger on the two wounded FBI agents (both of whom left wives and children), then he's just 'paying the price' for his convictions, or lack of convictions. But he's convicted now! If he wishes to lanquish in prison without telling the authorities who the actual shooter was - that's his choice, not the government's! So, just put me down in the [b]'unsympathetic to co-conspirators to murder'[/b] column! Eric The(Heartless)Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 1/1/2004 8:55:23 AM EDT
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As a man who practices law (you, not me), I'm surprised at how easily you brush this aside. The point of what I was saying is that he was convicted on fabricated evidence and perjured testimony. That is not justice.
He wasn't convicted on a charge of "Refusing to name the real shooter." Is it that the law is a general guideline, but what matters is that we string somebody up in the end? Back to the original topic, Willie & Co. seem to be displaying an amazing lack of compassion for the formerly victimized citizens of Iraq. Sure, we could have left them in "peace" as the Hussein family continued to torture, rape , and murder. Wouldn't that have been the nice, Hollywood thing to do? |
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Posted: 1/1/2004 9:03:43 AM EDT
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I think by now you guys know I'm not some leftist liberal whacko. [Charlie Daniels on]"He's a friend of them long-haired, hippie type, pinko fags I betcha he's even got a Commie flag Tacked up on the wall, inside of his garage He's a snake in the grass, I tell ya guys He may look dumb, but that's just a disguise He's a mastermind in the ways of espionage."[:)][/Charlie Daniels off] Speach is free thank god Leonard Peltier is not. |
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Posted: 1/1/2004 9:07:14 AM EDT
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Quoted: I think by now you guys know I'm not some leftist liberal whacko. [bold]"He's a friend of them long-haired, hippie type, pinko fags I betcha he's even got a Commie flag Tacked up on the wall, inside of his garage He's a snake in the grass, I tell ya guys He may look dumb, but that's just a disguise He's a mastermind in the ways of espionage."[:)][/bold] I'll give you a point for the long hair part, but the rest is off the mark. [;)] Bro(Nothinguneasyaboutmyriding)hawk |
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Posted: 1/1/2004 9:22:32 AM EDT
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I haven't played it for Toby (Keith) yet We'll know if he does. Toby will remove what's left of his teeth. |
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Posted: 1/1/2004 10:23:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: I haven't played it for Toby (Keith) yet We'll know if he does. Toby will remove what's left of his teeth. I wouldn't bet on it. Remember, in the Dan Rather interview with Toby K. he said he was against the war, but supported the troops... fullclip |
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Posted: 1/1/2004 10:31:41 AM EDT
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Critical ballistic information reflecting Mr. Peltier's innocence was withheld from the defense team, making a fair trial impossible. Specifically, at the trial, the FBI ballistic expert, Evan Hodge, testified that he had been unable to perform the best test, a firing pin test, on certain casings found near the agents' car, because the rifle in question had been damaged in a fire. Instead, he stated that he had conducted an extractor mark test, and found the casing and weapon to match. Years later, documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act showed that in October 1975 a firing pin ballistic test had indeed been performed on the rifle and that the results were clearly negative. In short, the fatal bullet did not come from Leonard Peltier's weapon. The jury never heard about any of these crucial issues. Um, no. Since I actually bothered to look this up, I’m going to post it, however boring it is. There was a Oct 2, 1975 Lab Report that read in part: RECOVERED .223 CALIBER COLT RIFLE RECEIVED FROM SA BATF, CONTAINS DIFFERENT FIRING PIN THAN THAT IN RIFLE USED AT RESMURS (reservation murder-Aimless) SCENE However that was an initial report, not the final report. What happened is initially a tech started going through the ammunition collected as evidence basically in the order in which it was tagged in, not in any kind of order according to how relevant it was. At the time that teletype was written a tech, not Hodge I believe, had compared 7 rounds to the AR-15 put into evidence at trial. Those seven rounds had a distinct marking on the firing pin whereas the AR-15 in evidence had a smooth firing pin, therefore it was the expert’s opinion that those 7 rounds were not fired from that AR-15. That is what caused the 10-2-75 teletype in question. Later Hodges, removed the bolt and carrier assembly from the AR-15. The AR had been damaged by fire and could not be fired, so he fired test rounds out of another AR the FBI had using the bolt assembly from the melted AR. He compared the markings on this brass to brass recovered from Coler’s car. The smooth firing pin resulted in Hodge stating that he could not determine one way or the other whether the brass recovered from Coler’s car was fired from that AR, BASED SOLELY ON THE FIRING PIN MARKS. So the claim that that rules out the rifles use is a lie, he merely came to the conclusion that the firing pin markings did not prove or disprove that that AR had fired the rounds in question. He was able to match the brass to the rifle by the extractor marks. The other rounds with the marking on the primer were later matched to a different AR that the police later seized. The jury did have the full ballistics report that was compiled after that teletype. Peltier had a hearing on this claim back in the mid 80s and lost. |
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