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Posted: 4/14/2019 11:38:30 AM EDT
Didn't see anything on the trial.
This lady: 
Was accidentally shot by this officer: 
It's a shocking story "Damond was shot in the abdomen and killed while wearing her pajamas after she approached a police cruiser containing Noor and another officer, Matthew Harrity. Noor, who was in the passenger seat, is accusing of shooting Damond through the driver’s side window. Damond had called 911 to report a possible assault in an alley behind her home on July 15, reports The Minneapolis Star-Tribune." "Three sources with knowledge of the incident said Sunday that two officers in one squad car, responding to the 911 call, pulled into the alley. Damond, in her pajamas, went to the driver’s side door and was talking to the driver. The officer in the passenger seat pulled his gun and shot Damond through the driver’s side door, sources confirmed. No weapon was found at the scene,” the Star Tribune reported." With the trial underway, there are probably lots of things that are new. Maybe some locals can help fill in the story... |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 11:47:59 AM EDT
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I didn't realize the trial had started. I'm pretty close to there, maybe it will show up in the newsfeed. I'll post here if I see anything.
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Posted: 4/14/2019 11:48:33 AM EDT
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Additional Officers Testify In Mohamed Noor Trial, Body Cam Footage Shown
"Officer Jesse Lopez testified Friday, saying he had no authority over Noor when he told him not to talk to anyone after the shooting. He said he was not commanding Noor, he was giving him advice." This is generally accepted advice after any shooting. Bodycam footage was shown, may be released to public. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:04:59 PM EDT
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Accidentally on purpose?
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:06:25 PM EDT
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I didn't realize the trial had started. I'm pretty close to there, maybe it will show up in the newsfeed. I'll post here if I see anything. I used up all of my MPLS Star-Tribune free articles, so if someone else wants to post snippets, please do. As she was Australian, international coverage may provide a different perspective. From Australia: 'I was in shock, shaking': Justine Ruszczyk Damond's fiance recalls the night she died More New Zealand weighs in with this: Justine Ruszczyk Damond shooting: 'Because his name is Mohamed it's different' "When Noor was charged last year, the Somali-American Police Officers Association said: "We believe these charges are baseless and politically motivated, if not racially motivated as well." Yep. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:07:44 PM EDT
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Deep FRY that motherfucker, extra crispy. NO fucking reason for that action that can be "explained away", with out some SERIOUS shennajgans being pulled. IF he is that "scared" by somebody approaching where he happens to be, then WHO THE FUCK thought that it would be okay for him to a gun?
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:22:33 PM EDT
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Neither officer had their bodycam on in violation of dept rules
Bodycams were mandated after the Philandro Castile shooting More UK coverage: The Latest: Noor jury seated; 6 people of color on panel MPLS demographics.. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:29:21 PM EDT
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He’ll probably get off...
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:31:43 PM EDT
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I used up all of my MPLS Star-Tribune free articles, so if someone else wants to post snippets, please do. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:32:17 PM EDT
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One of the single most heinous acts by a police officer I've heard of.
Fucker needs to hang by his Somali neck. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:32:49 PM EDT
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Neither officer had their bodycam on in violation of dept rules Bodycams were mandated after the Philandro Castile shooting Also interesting that the entirety of that article is the Daily Mail's interpretation of department policy, with one "substantiating" claim from some nameless "women's group." |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:33:43 PM EDT
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He'll probably get off... |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:35:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Locals can often fill in the blanks on the general attributes of a neighborhood, etc. I used up all of my MPLS Star-Tribune free articles, so if someone else wants to post snippets, please do. As she was Australian, international coverage may provide a different perspective. From Australia: 'I was in shock, shaking': Justine Ruszczyk Damond's fiance recalls the night she died More New Zealand weighs in with this: Justine Ruszczyk Damond shooting: 'Because his name is Mohamed it's different' "When Noor was charged last year, the Somali-American Police Officers Association said: "We believe these charges are baseless and politically motivated, if not racially motivated as well." Yep. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:40:17 PM EDT
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Didn't see anything on the trial. This lady: Was accidentally shot by this officer: |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:41:29 PM EDT
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Here is a snip:
The prosecution also questioned statements by Noor's police partner, Matthew Harrity, that the officers heard a loud thump on the back of the car in the moments before the shooting. Harrity only mentioned the thump for the first time several days later, Lofton said. Prosecutors also said there was no DNA evidence that Damond touched the officers' car. In his opening statement, defence attorney Peter Wold said that Noor and Harrity believed they were in a "classic ambush scenario" when Damond approached their car. "It was a perfect storm with tragic consequences," Wold said. "It was a tragedy but in no way was it a crime." He urged jurors not to use "20-20 hindsight" in their judgement and to remember that Noor had only milliseconds to respond to a potentially dangerous situation. Judge Kathryn Quaintance said the case had attracted more pre-trial publicity than any criminal trial she had seen in almost 20 years in Minnesota. The trial continues on Wednesday and is expected to last for a month. When was the last time a white blonde in PJs ambushed a cop? |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:41:43 PM EDT
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He’ll probably get off... Multiple defense theories will be used, from PTSD from the Somalia civil war to racial discrimination in the US to "she made a move, he had to get it on." It'll be blamed on bad training or some shit & all this will be swept under the rug after the not guilty verdict. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:42:48 PM EDT
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Scott Johnson at the Powerline blog has been following the story day by day. Daily summaries with links to news stories and pertinent info
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-2.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-3.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-4.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-5.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-6.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-7.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-8.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-9.php Court page on the trial: http://mncourts.gov/StateofMinnesotavMohamedNoor |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:47:40 PM EDT
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Unholstering, aiming and firing a weapon isn't a reaction to a jump scare.
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:48:53 PM EDT
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Guaranteed. Multiple defense theories will be used, from PTSD from the Somalia civil war to racial discrimination in the US to "she made a move, he had to get it on." It'll be blamed on bad training or some shit & all this will be swept under the rug after the not guilty verdict. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He'll probably get off... Multiple defense theories will be used, from PTSD from the Somalia civil war to racial discrimination in the US to "she made a move, he had to get it on." It'll be blamed on bad training or some shit & all this will be swept under the rug after the not guilty verdict. If she was my family member and that fucker walked I couldn't help but seek to avenge her death. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:53:35 PM EDT
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I strongly disagree with the use of that term. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Didn't see anything on the trial. This lady: Was accidentally shot by this officer: So it must have been an accident. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 12:56:01 PM EDT
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Somalia exports a guy to the US to shoot a woman from a country that exported a guy to New Zealand to shoot Bangladeshis.This is just way too complicated.
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Posted: 4/14/2019 1:02:43 PM EDT
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Not having a cam turned on because you're not expecting anything is like not having a round chambered.
Let's put an auxilary sensor in the holster that ensures the cam is on if your weapon is drawn. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 1:19:58 PM EDT
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Interesting article. Everything I've heard/read so far is that they didn't have any expectation to be making contact at the moment the shooting occurred, so I don't know that they'd have reason to have turned their body cams on yet. Also interesting that the entirety of that article is the Daily Mail's interpretation of department policy, with one "substantiating" claim from some nameless "women's group." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Neither officer had their bodycam on in violation of dept rules Bodycams were mandated after the Philandro Castile shooting Also interesting that the entirety of that article is the Daily Mail's interpretation of department policy, with one "substantiating" claim from some nameless "women's group." |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 1:23:40 PM EDT
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Not having a cam turned on because you're not expecting anything is like not having a round chambered. Let's put an auxilary sensor in the holster that ensures the cam is on if your weapon is drawn. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 1:42:10 PM EDT
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He'll probably get off... |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 1:44:58 PM EDT
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Somali gonna Somali
Especially when the Somali thinks he gonna get away with it   
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Posted: 4/14/2019 1:47:43 PM EDT
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It's ok 'cause he's probably mentally ill.
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Posted: 4/14/2019 1:50:10 PM EDT
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OST
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Posted: 4/14/2019 1:50:15 PM EDT
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Sometimes I wish public hangings were still a thing.
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Posted: 4/14/2019 1:51:23 PM EDT
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Tagging this.
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Posted: 4/14/2019 1:51:36 PM EDT
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"Somali-American Police Officers Association"
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Posted: 4/14/2019 1:51:59 PM EDT
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Dude needs to be in prison.
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Posted: 4/14/2019 1:54:18 PM EDT
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CoC
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Posted: 4/14/2019 2:11:49 PM EDT
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Neither officer had their bodycam on in violation of dept rules Bodycams were mandated after the Philandro Castile shooting More UK coverage: The Latest: Noor jury seated; 6 people of color on panel MPLS demographics.. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 4:49:15 PM EDT
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Affirmative action hire.
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Posted: 4/14/2019 4:55:36 PM EDT
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While I totally agree with you on all of that, I've seen some Dept policies which state you must activate the body cam when you're dispatched to a call. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Neither officer had their bodycam on in violation of dept rules Bodycams were mandated after the Philandro Castile shooting Also interesting that the entirety of that article is the Daily Mail's interpretation of department policy, with one "substantiating" claim from some nameless "women's group." |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 4:56:21 PM EDT
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Deep FRY that motherfucker, extra crispy. NO fucking reason for that action that can be "explained away", with out some SERIOUS shennajgans being pulled. IF he is that "scared" by somebody approaching where he happens to be, then WHO THE FUCK thought that it would be okay for him to a gun? |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 5:01:03 PM EDT
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Way back when this happened, the reports was a person, in the dark and unrecognizable, was running toward them in their squad car. If it was not expected the complainant would be there to greet them, then I could imagine they suspected an ambush or bad guy intent on harming them.
Everyday on arfcom GD we hear keyborne rangers tell us how they are going to shoot them some bad guy if he even looks sideways at them. But GD also wants to string up every police officer for everything, especially when they have no clue of what actually happened. Monday morning quarterbacking is an arfcom GD sport that is highly competitive. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 5:11:12 PM EDT
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Way back when this happened, the reports was a person, in the dark and unrecognizable, was running toward them in their squad car. If it was not expected the complainant would be there to greet them, then I could imagine they suspected an ambush or bad guy intent on harming them. Everyday on arfcom GD we hear keyborne rangers tell us how they are going to shoot them some bad guy if he even looks sideways at them. But GD also wants to string up every police officer for everything, especially when they have no clue of what actually happened. Monday morning quarterbacking is an arfcom GD sport that is highly competitive. 
Shoot first,figure the shit out later.......... |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 5:13:25 PM EDT
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Way back when this happened, the reports was a person, in the dark and unrecognizable, was running toward them in their squad car. If it was not expected the complainant would be there to greet them, then I could imagine they suspected an ambush or bad guy intent on harming them. Everyday on arfcom GD we hear keyborne rangers tell us how they are going to shoot them some bad guy if he even looks sideways at them. But GD also wants to string up every police officer for everything, especially when they have no clue of what actually happened. Monday morning quarterbacking is an arfcom GD sport that is highly competitive. Maybe wearing PJ's instead of a hijab pushed gigabrain over the edge. Allah! She has not covered herself! Derka derka derka BANG. 
Don't take my word for it. Let the official state legal dude handle it: "State prosecutor and head of the County Attorney's office, Mike Freeman, said that there was 'no evidence' that Noor was threatened by Justine. 'In the short time between when Ms Damond-Ruszczyk approached the squad car and the time Officer Noor fired the fatal shot, there is no evidence that officer Noor encountered a threat, appreciated a threat, investigated a threat or confirmed a threat that justified his decision to use deadly force,' he said. 'Instead, Officer Noor recklessly and intentionally fired his handgun from the passenger seat in disregard for human life. Such actions violate the criminal law.' Ever had someone fire past you from the passenger seat? I sure haven't. What was genius thinking? Seriously. What kind of guy instinct pushes one to shoot an unarmed female seeking help? Maybe I'm just uncultured.
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Posted: 4/14/2019 5:17:16 PM EDT
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Way back when this happened, the reports was a person, in the dark and unrecognizable, was running toward them in their squad car. If it was not expected the complainant would be there to greet them, then I could imagine they suspected an ambush or bad guy intent on harming them. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 5:18:09 PM EDT
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Unholstering, aiming and firing a weapon isn't a reaction to a jump scare. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 5:19:52 PM EDT
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Did the officer go home safe? That's all that matters.
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Posted: 4/14/2019 5:23:41 PM EDT
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He doesn't look like the Somalies we have here.
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Posted: 4/15/2019 5:45:55 PM EDT
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Sometimes I wish public hangings were still a thing. |
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Posted: 4/15/2019 5:49:23 PM EDT
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Way back when this happened, the reports was a person, in the dark and unrecognizable, was running toward them in their squad car. If it was not expected the complainant would be there to greet them, then I could imagine they suspected an ambush or bad guy intent on harming them. Everyday on arfcom GD we hear keyborne rangers tell us how they are going to shoot them some bad guy if he even looks sideways at them. But GD also wants to string up every police officer for everything, especially when they have no clue of what actually happened. Monday morning quarterbacking is an arfcom GD sport that is highly competitive. |
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Posted: 4/15/2019 5:49:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She was talking to his partner, who was in the driver's seat. Maybe wearing PJ's instead of a hijab pushed gigabrain over the edge. Allah! She has not covered herself! Derka derka derka BANG. https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_29/2074881/170717-justine-damond-cr-0721_0da1170e4f52f4596dbccd23e257cfa1.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/20/20/4A61A5DE00000578-5524259-Noor_pictured_shot_Damond_in_the_stomach_when_she_approached_his-m-11_1521578383008.jpg Don't take my word for it. Let the official state legal dude handle it: "State prosecutor and head of the County Attorney's office, Mike Freeman, said that there was 'no evidence' that Noor was threatened by Justine. 'In the short time between when Ms Damond-Ruszczyk approached the squad car and the time Officer Noor fired the fatal shot, there is no evidence that officer Noor encountered a threat, appreciated a threat, investigated a threat or confirmed a threat that justified his decision to use deadly force,' he said. 'Instead, Officer Noor recklessly and intentionally fired his handgun from the passenger seat in disregard for human life. Such actions violate the criminal law.' Ever had someone fire past you from the passenger seat? I sure haven't. What was genius thinking? Seriously. What kind of guy instinct pushes one to shoot an unarmed female seeking help? Maybe I'm just uncultured. |
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Posted: 4/15/2019 5:57:13 PM EDT
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OST
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Posted: 4/15/2019 6:03:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2019 6:31:17 PM EDT
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Scott Johnson at the Powerline blog has been following the story day by day. Daily summaries with links to news stories and pertinent info https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-2.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-3.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-4.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-5.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-6.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-7.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-8.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-9.php Court page on the trial: http://mncourts.gov/StateofMinnesotavMohamedNoor Quote HistoryQuoted:
Scott Johnson at the Powerline blog has been following the story day by day. Daily summaries with links to news stories and pertinent info https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-2.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-3.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-4.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-5.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-6.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-7.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-8.php https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-9.php Court page on the trial: http://mncourts.gov/StateofMinnesotavMohamedNoor https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/04/at-the-noor-trial-11.php Before I get to the heart of her testimony I should note that Barnette was one of the police non-cooperators with the County Attorney’s investigation of the killing. The County Attorney’s undertook the investigation after he found the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension’s investigation to be inadequate. Barnette refused to talk voluntarily to the County Attorney. Her testimony was compelled before the grand jury that the County Attorney empaneled specifically to obtain the testimony of the police non-cooperators. The second bodycam clip is nevertheless crucial. She talked to Harrity upon arrival. The second clip captures Harrity’s explanation of the shooting to Barnette: “She just came out of nowhere on the side of the thing [squad car] and we both got spooked. I had my gun out. I didn’t fire. And then Noor pulled out and fired.” After the initial playing of the three video clips we broke for lunch. Barnette’s testimony consumed most of the afternoon. Barnette couldn’t explain why she turned her bodycam on and off. Taking his testimony at face value, he saw Justine approaching the squad car cell phone in her left hand, her right hand raised. She was 7-10 feet from the squad. He heard no noise before Noor’s gunshot. He heard the gunshot as he passed. One detail from Dunlap’s testimony would have escaped me but for Lou’s notes on Twitter. Officer Harrity failed to turn on his bodycam at any time during his shift on July 15 except, as it appears, immediately after the shooting. Given the way the bodycam records, with a 30-second silent buffer before it adds sound, there appears to be a 15-second gap (my term) that should have caught the shooting. The prosecution also called Minneapolis police officer Richard Opitz. After roll call on the morning of July 16, he was ordered to the scene. At the scene Sergeant Barnette ordered him to take the Harrity/Noor squad car from which Noor had fired the gunshot to the carwash and have it cleaned. He took it to Dan’s Nicollet Carwash. He saw fingerprint powder on the squad car that was not entirely removed by the carwash. He drove the car back to the fifth precinct headquarters parking lot to be returned to service. And how does a cop go most of an entire shift with never turning on his body cam? And both had guns drawn while driving down the alley but neglected to turn their body cams on? That stinks right there. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 8:36:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting article. Everything I've heard/read so far is that they didn't have any expectation to be making contact at the moment the shooting occurred, so I don't know that they'd have reason to have turned their body cams on yet. ..... |
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