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Posted: 12/27/2003 6:31:14 AM EDT
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/

"Floridians are allowed to carry concealed weapons if they sit through a two-hour lecture and show an instructor they can handle a gun safely. Should a concealed-weapons permit be so easy to get?"

go vote

They forgot to add, "then wait 3 months"

Link Posted: 12/27/2003 6:35:39 AM EDT
[#1]
[url]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/[/url]


made hot
TXL
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 6:38:20 AM EDT
[#2]
Done.

40% yes
59% No
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 6:39:43 AM EDT
[#3]
Done

Danny
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 6:39:47 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/

made hot
TXL
View Quote


You may want to make it cold.
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 6:57:17 AM EDT
[#5]
Hit.



41.1%
Yes. Very few people with concealed-weapons permits have been charged with gun-related crimes. (1202 responses)

58.9%
No. People should not be allowed to carry guns unless they demonstrate a real need. (1722 responses)

2924 total responses
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 6:59:34 AM EDT
[#6]
did my bit
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:00:25 AM EDT
[#7]
41.3%
Yes. Very few people with concealed-weapons permits have been charged with gun-related crimes. (1214 responses)

58.7%
No. People should not be allowed to carry guns unless they demonstrate a real need. (1723 responses)

2937 total responses

Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:06:07 AM EDT
[#8]
Floridians are allowed to carry concealed weapons if they sit through a two-hour lecture and show an instructor they can handle a gun safely. Should a concealed-weapons permit be so easy to get?

Voted.

41.5%
Yes. Very few people with concealed-weapons permits have been charged with gun-related crimes. (1228 responses)

58.5%
No. People should not be allowed to carry guns unless they demonstrate a real need. (1731 responses)

2959 total responses
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:08:41 AM EDT
[#9]
Done, still the same percentages.
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:12:56 AM EDT
[#10]
done
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:16:26 AM EDT
[#11]
done, 41.9% yes
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:19:03 AM EDT
[#12]
Voted for you guys. Now I expect you Flordia guys to support CCW in Illinois when it becomes available.
Sometimes I break myself up.[ROFL2]
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:23:56 AM EDT
[#13]
done


here i just have to demonstarte the ability to write a check for 7.50.

mike
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:24:08 AM EDT
[#14]
42.2 yes
57.8 no
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:25:33 AM EDT
[#15]
I couldnt find the poll, but I did write a nice note to the editor!

[RED]You seem to have left out the exhaustive background check and the 60 to 90 day waiting period for issuance. You make it sound like one sits through the two hour course,proves proficiency and is issued a permit on the spot. While youre at it why not check your statistics on crimes comitted by permit holders? (Hint) its almost nonexistant![/RED]
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:26:43 AM EDT
[#16]
done.
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:29:39 AM EDT
[#17]
I've done it but we need more,more,more
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:35:50 AM EDT
[#18]
Done. Losing 42.8% to 57.2%.
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:38:34 AM EDT
[#19]
43.0%
Yes. Very few people with concealed-weapons permits have been charged with gun-related crimes. (1323 responses)

57.0%
No. People should not be allowed to carry guns unless they demonstrate a real need. (1756 responses)

3079 total responses
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:40:37 AM EDT
[#20]
Floridians are allowed to carry concealed weapons if they sit through a two-hour lecture and show an instructor they can handle a gun safely. Should a concealed-weapons permit be so easy to get?

43.1%
Yes. Very few people with concealed-weapons permits have been charged with gun-related crimes. (1329 responses)

56.9%
No. People should not be allowed to carry guns unless they demonstrate a real need. (1758 responses)

3087 total responses

Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:44:16 AM EDT
[#21]
Still loosing


Samuel
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:52:28 AM EDT
[#22]
43.3% yes. 3118 responses

It looks like the numbers are getting better.
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 7:57:36 AM EDT
[#23]
NO, because more training should be required... AZ has a good set up IMHO.
There were people in my class (it was 4hrs, did something change ?) who knew dick about pistols and all they had to do was watch a video. They were a danger to themselves. It should be required that a level of proficiency with a pistol be demonstrated.*

More training should be required, the paper work and and background stuff is fine the way it is.

*It's not required that you shoot (though the local SD makes you shoot when you take the CCW class.) This is kin to watching 4hrs worth of video and verbal instruction and then being handed a drivers license.
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 8:10:32 AM EDT
[#24]
done
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 8:14:15 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
NO, because more training should be required... AZ has a good set up IMHO.
There were people in my class (it was 4hrs, did something change ?) who knew dick about pistols and all they had to do was watch a video. They were a danger to themselves. It should be required that a level of proficiency with a pistol be demonstrated.*

More training should be required, the paper work and and background stuff is fine the way it is.

*It's not required that you shoot (though the local SD makes you shoot when you take the CCW class.) This is kin to watching 4hrs worth of video and verbal instruction and then being handed a drivers license.
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Ah yes, require a "proficiency test" to exercise your rights. After that it is a simple matter to raise the requirements until no one can pass. Exceptions for police and .gov, of course...

Poorly reasoned Grasshopper.
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 8:29:02 AM EDT
[#26]
hit
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 8:45:42 AM EDT
[#27]
Done.

Yes 48.5% (1699)
No  51.5% (1806)

Getting closer!
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 8:50:48 AM EDT
[#28]
Done!  But we're still losing.
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 8:51:52 AM EDT
[#29]
By "Floridians", does that include the Uniroyal Yacht Club set?
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 8:54:15 AM EDT
[#30]
Yes - 49.1
No - 50.9

C'mon get to it!

Link Posted: 12/27/2003 9:00:19 AM EDT
[#31]
Hit it
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 9:11:15 AM EDT
[#32]
Looks like we are leading now, barely. 50.2%
Yes. Very few people with concealed-weapons permits have been charged with gun-related crimes. (1832 responses)

49.8%
No. People should not be allowed to carry guns unless they demonstrate a real need. (1819 responses)

3651 total responses

Link Posted: 12/27/2003 9:16:32 AM EDT
[#33]
yes 50.4%
No  49.6%
3673 responses
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 9:23:41 AM EDT
[#34]
Done.
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 9:36:23 AM EDT
[#35]
Yes. 66.9% (3687 responses)

No. 33.1% (1828 responses)

5515 total responses
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 9:37:43 AM EDT
[#36]
66.1% YES

33.9% NO

BWAHAHAHAH
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 9:41:12 AM EDT
[#37]
68.8% Yes
31.2% no

Done did my part...

Sheesh, I was gettin' nervous looking at the start of this thread...
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 9:46:58 AM EDT
[#38]
hit!! were winning, woohoooo
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 10:12:35 AM EDT
[#39]
Done!

Yes...72.9
No....27.1
[:D]
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 10:16:39 AM EDT
[#40]
Floridians are allowed to carry concealed weapons if they sit through a two-hour lecture and show an instructor they can handle a gun safely. Should a concealed-weapons permit be so easy to get?

72.9%
Yes. Very few people with concealed-weapons permits have been charged with gun-related crimes. (4991 responses)

27.1%
No. People should not be allowed to carry guns unless they demonstrate a real need. (1852 responses)

6843 total responses

Link Posted: 12/27/2003 10:25:41 AM EDT
[#41]
2:24 PM. I voted.

Floridians are allowed to carry concealed weapons if they sit through a two-hour lecture and show an instructor they can handle a gun safely. Should a concealed-weapons permit be so easy to get?

73.0%
Yes. Very few people with concealed-weapons permits have been charged with gun-related crimes. (5019 responses)

27.0%
No. People should not be allowed to carry guns unless they demonstrate a real need. (1860 responses)

6879 total responses
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Link Posted: 12/27/2003 10:29:48 AM EDT
[#42]
done
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 10:32:02 AM EDT
[#43]
73.2 yea, 26.8 nay, 6956 total
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 10:42:05 AM EDT
[#44]
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 10:44:42 AM EDT
[#45]
This okie hit it once for you FL guys....
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 10:53:09 AM EDT
[#46]
Done.
75.7% Yes.
24.3% No.
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 11:21:33 AM EDT
[#47]

DONE

78%  yes

21%  no
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 11:38:17 AM EDT
[#48]
+1 from NH.
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 1:34:46 PM EDT
[#49]
80.9% Yes. Very few people with concealed-weapons permits have been charged with gun-related crimes. (8283 responses)

19.1% No. People should not be allowed to carry guns unless they demonstrate a real need. (1960 responses)
Link Posted: 12/27/2003 1:41:44 PM EDT
[#50]
Done!


The paper makes it seem like any felon or burglar can just go down and get the permit,  very biased in my opinion.
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