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Posted: 12/19/2003 7:36:16 AM EDT
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Reprinted from NewsMax.com

Dangerous Russia
Christopher Ruddy
Wednesday, Dec. 17, 2003

The major news this month may not be that Saddam Hussein was captured, but that a silent coup has taken place in Russia – all but confirming a new dictatorship there.

Since 9/11 America has been focused on international terror and the likes of Saddam, bin Laden and others.

Watching those targets should not mean we dismiss other worldwide developments that may pose an even greater danger.

While I realize it flies in the face of conventional wisdom, I believe that Russia today remains America's No. 1 danger.

Why?

For two reasons.

First, the old communist KGB elite have confirmed their ongoing coup in parliamentary elections this month.

Second, Russia remains the only country in the world that can destroy the United States in 30 minutes.

Leading Russia today is its president, Vladimir Putin. Putin is a former KGB official who makes no bones about his desire to bring Russia back to the good old Soviet days.

This month, Putin's party won control of the Duma.

Columnist William Safire detailed what happened: "By taking over the mass media and seizing the political opposition's source of funds, Vladimir Putin and KGB cohort have brought back one-party rule to Russia."

After the fall of the Berlin Wall, it appeared that Russia was on the path to democracy. Old ways are hard to die, however.

Even before the Russian Duma election, Newsweek recently offered a special report on Russia, one that received little media notice but has grave implications for the West.

Newsweek revealed that Putin has systematically filled positions in the Russian government with dreaded KGB henchmen from the Soviet Union police state.

The magazine said that the Russian bureaucracy teems with members of the siloviki – former officers of the Soviet secret police.

Typical of the breed is Vladimir Kulakov, identified by Newsweek as a former midlevel KGB officer who today is the elected leader of the 2.4 million residents of Russia's southern Voronezh region.

"At every level of government former secret police agents are grabbing power, digging in and recruiting old KGB friends. More and more they are stepping in to 'manage' Russia's fledgling democracy."

Olga Kryshtanovskaya, a top Russian sociologist, tracks the activities of the old KGB men.

She told Newsweek that rumors of what she called a "creeping KGB coup" are borne out by the facts.

At the top of the KGB pyramid is Putin, who has surrounded himself with former companions from the Committee for State Security (Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Besopastnosti).

Kryshtanovskaya cited deputy chiefs of administration Igor Sechin and Viktor Ivanov as two top former KGB officers.

The magazine notes that half the members of what she calls Putin's de facto Politburo are siloviki or members of the military or the FSB, the new name for the KGB.

When Putin divided Russia into seven districts, each run by a bureaucracy of about 1,500 bureaucrats, he named members of the siloviki to head five of them. Said Kryshtanovskaya, the siloviki now account for fully 70 percent of all senior regional officials.

Moreover, outside the Russian government tens of thousands of ex-KGB officers now work for private security companies, which function as "sleeper cells" primed to spring to life at a critical moment.

Says Kryshtanovskaya: "In the past we had a socialist totalitarian state. Now we have a capitalist totalitarian state."

However one describes this monster that has developed in Russia, it remains a danger.

Take ex-KGB official Sergei Ivanov, who recently warned that Russia would re-examine the defensive nature of its nuclear strategy and spoke ominously about taking pre-emptive nuclear strikes against unspecified international targets.

Clearly the madmen who made up the Old Soviet Union are back in the driver's seat.

They also control the world's greatest nuclear arsenal.

Though Russia's conventional army has weakened since the collapse of the Soviet Union, its nuclear forces have remained robust and may have even grown.

During the same time, America has been dismantling its nuclear deterrent at an alarming rate. In the past 10 years alone, the U.S. scrapped nearly its entire inventory of tactical nuclear weapons.

So, yes, capturing Saddam is a major victory in the war on terror. Still, we must remain vigilant to other potential threats to our security.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 7:40:34 AM EDT
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I! Told! You! So!
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 7:48:09 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2003 7:51:58 AM EDT
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i their glory daze they couldn't even whup the afghans.

today, the chechens humiliate them.


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The same could be said about us, except with Vietnamese and Al Q.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 8:13:03 AM EDT
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i their glory daze they couldn't even whup the afghans.

today, the chechens humiliate them.


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I'm not real worried about their land armies. Even at their peak, the most they would do was conquer mainland Europe. However, they do still have the only other large collection of ICBMs and SSBNs. In that way, they're the only country capable of inflicting real harm upon the US.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 8:26:47 AM EDT
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i their glory daze they couldn't even whup the afghans.

today, the chechens humiliate them.


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The same could be said about us, except with Vietnamese and Al Q.
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I don't think the Russkies would have handled Vietnam any better.  Besides it was the leadership that fucked that up.
As far as Al Quieda, who is more humiliated,
Bin lardass or Pres Bush?
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 8:47:04 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2003 8:50:36 AM EDT
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I wonder how many of those ICBMs & SSBNs actually can fly by now?
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 8:58:37 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2003 9:22:14 AM EDT
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I just said it before in a thread about this. You neo-cons are lost without the soviet union! Without the red menace you got no one to hate! Sure the muslims have stepped up to the plate but truly they are losers not worthy of our scorn!? Get over it! Russia is a basket case whos a threat to noone. and besides why would they nuke us now? I think you guys wish it was 1955 all over again with people buying nuclear bomb shelters and all the paranoia.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 9:50:28 AM EDT
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[red]You neo-cons[/red] are lost without the soviet union! Without the red menace you got no one to hate! Sure the muslims have stepped up to the plate but truly they are losers not worthy of our scorn!? Get over it! Russia is a basket case whos a threat to noone. and besides why would they nuke us now? I think you guys wish it was 1955 all over again with people buying nuclear bomb shelters and all the paranoia.
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What does that mean?  I think that the Russians are in the same Muslim boat we're in and had the same bogged down Afghan/Vietnam that we did.  They aren't losing face with their muslim terrorists any more than we are.  You can't lose face by being attacked, you can only lose face by allowing it, condoning it and not attempting to stop it.

And I don't think anyone here wants bomb shelters or the fear of a world on the brink of self destruction.  
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 9:56:55 AM EDT
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I just said it before in a thread about this. You neo-cons are lost without the soviet union! Without the red menace you got no one to hate! Sure the muslims have stepped up to the plate but truly they are losers not worthy of our scorn!? Get over it! Russia is a basket case whos a threat to noone. and besides why would they nuke us now? I think you guys wish it was 1955 all over again with people buying nuclear bomb shelters and all the paranoia.
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OK.  Now I have to go rent Dr. Strangelove again!

I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
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General Jack D. Ripper: Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk... ice cream. Ice cream, Mandrake, children's ice cream.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Lord, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: I... no, no. I don't, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Uh, Jack, Jack, listen, tell me, tell me, Jack. When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?
General Jack D. Ripper: Well, I, uh... I... I... first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.
General Jack D. Ripper: Yes, a uh, a profound sense of fatigue... a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I... I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.
General Jack D. Ripper: I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake.
Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: No.
General Jack D. Ripper: But I... I do deny them my essence.
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Link Posted: 12/19/2003 10:15:09 AM EDT
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mace, the chinese can do greater damage than the 3rd world shithole country formerly known as "the soviet union".

i'm not the least bit concerned with vladimir pushing the red button. he's far more intelligent than that.

what concerns me far more is some terrorist bandit bribing a red army captain that hasn't been paid in 6 months to sell him a warhead or tactical nuke.

i fear the russian mafia more than the russian government.
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I'm sure that's a danger too, though I don't know how serious of one.

Putin may be too smart to press the red button (though such assumptions can be troublesome). The thing is, at least according to this article, he is setting things up to draw more power to himself and the central government. If he succeds in drawing a lot of power to himself, then who will succeed him, and what will that successor be willing to do?

As for the Chinese, last I heard, they don't have very many ICBMs. And why would they attack us anyways, when we buy billions of dollars of stuff from them every year?

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I just said it before in a thread about this. You neo-cons are lost without the soviet union! Without the red menace you got no one to hate! Sure the muslims have stepped up to the plate but truly they are losers not worthy of our scorn!? Get over it! Russia is a basket case whos a threat to noone. and besides why would they nuke us now? I think you guys wish it was 1955 all over again with people buying nuclear bomb shelters and all the paranoia.
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We may be a little paranoid, but I much perfer being aware and wary of potential dangers then ignoring them like Liberals do. You know, like how Clinton ignored at least three terrorist attacks, including the first attack on the WTC, during his two terms, and next thing we know, 9/11 happens.
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 10:19:04 AM EDT
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Reprinted from NewsMax.com

Dangerous Russia
Christopher Ruddy
Wednesday, Dec. 17, 2003

...Columnist William Safire detailed what happened: "By taking over the mass media and seizing the political opposition's source of funds, Vladimir Putin and KGB cohort have brought back one-party rule to Russia."...
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Likewise, if Dean wins the nomination to the Presidential campaign, the Democrat Party will introduce one-party rule to the United States (by loosing the election).

So?

- LS
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 2:42:36 PM EDT
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i fear the russian mafia more than the russian government.
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I thought they were one and the same?
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 7:38:06 PM EDT
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Just remember, behind every Russian Boomer there's an American Fast Attack :)
Link Posted: 12/19/2003 8:06:51 PM EDT
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Mr. President, We cannot allow a mineshaft gap!
Link Posted: 12/20/2003 4:21:02 AM EDT
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i their glory daze they couldn't even whup the afghans.

today, the chechens humiliate them.


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The same could be said about us, except with Vietnamese and Al Q.
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Except that it couldn't be said by anyone with two brain cells to rub together, given that we won ever military engagement in Vietnam and only pulled out because of political pressure back home, AND that are kicking Al Quaeda's ass all over the world.
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