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Posted: 12/10/2003 7:39:29 AM EDT
[#1]
I'm ready now. We need to start with the IRS...
Unfortunately, the masses won't be ready until we are in another "Great Depression" type of economic collapse. As long as "Joe Sixpack" still has a roof over his head, and the game on the set, he won't be too fired up to make any changes. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 7:39:55 AM EDT
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As much as I hate to think of the alternatives, I'm coming around, W-G! The lates SCOTUS abortion has me wondering which way to move next, and believe me, it's not guaranteed to anyone anymore......
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Posted: 12/10/2003 7:41:32 AM EDT
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Quoted: I'm ready now. We need to start with the IRS... Bullshit. First thing we need to do is remove the lifetime tenure of SCOTUS judges. These people have lost all respect for the Constitution. How the flippin' hell do these people sleep at night? |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 7:42:34 AM EDT
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Quoted: First thing we need to do is remove the lifetime tenure of SCOTUS judges. These people have lost all respect for the Constitution. [red]How the flippin' hell do these people sleep at night?[/red] |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 7:44:35 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: First thing we need to do is remove the lifetime tenure of SCOTUS judges. These people have lost all respect for the Constitution. [red]How the flippin' hell do these people sleep at night?[/red] [:D] I was expecting that from someone... |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 7:50:24 AM EDT
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We, as a "free" people, are fucked. We don't have the freedom to speak out politically during the most crucial part of the governmental cycle: Elections.
Take away free speech during elections and you are left with no free speech at all. We are fucked. Shit, no gun legislation was [b]this[/b] bad. I'm so pissed right now. I hope millions more Americans will be soon, too. This cannot stand. If it does, our Republic is lost and we will become unarmed, muzzled peasants. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 7:54:31 AM EDT
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Can't stand? Well what court are you going to appeal it to?
Cpt. Redleg |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:03:34 AM EDT
[#8]
{sarcasm on}
what a whiner. they didn't actually gut the Second or ban all firearms, just made some reasonable restrictions for the greater good of everyone. they didn't actually gut the First or eliminate all free speech, just made some reasonable restrictions for the greater good of everyone. {sarcasm off} Yes, this nation is totally lost. It is like watching the proverbial train wreck. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:09:09 AM EDT
[#9]
I'm with ya W-G.. [:|] [looks at rooftop]
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:09:25 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted: I'm ready now. We need to start with the IRS... Unfortunately, the masses won't be ready until we are in another "Great Depression" type of economic collapse. As long as "Joe Sixpack" still has a roof over his head, and the game on the set, he won't be too fired up to make any changes. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:16:16 AM EDT
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[b]Steady now, boyz![/b]
As Margaret Thatcher was so fond of saying, 'Let's not go wobbly' on this one! It's a real disaster for the First amendment, all right, but one that can, and will be, rectified in due course. President Bush and his legal advisors blew it big time, by failing to use his 'bully pulpit' to veto the CFR law and telling the American People what they needed to hear - that POLITICAL FREE SPEECH was the only speech that the Founding Fathers wished to protect. This decision and the CFR law itself, does not protect POLITICAL SPEECH at all! At least now, with 'right wing' radio, Fox News, the Internet, and other resources, we are in a position to combat our foes on the Left. A bad day. A very bad day indeed. The 'soft money' ban was the one part of the CFR that was the most egregious and the one that violated the spirit of free speech the worst! Oh well, it won't change my vote in 2004 in the least, and we have yet to see how it will affect the campaigns next year. Some say it will hurt the DEMOs the worst... Eric The(FundamantalistInMattersOfPoliticsAndReligion)Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:22:29 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EricThe[red](head in the sand)[/red]Hun: Oh well, it won't change my vote in 2004 in the least Yeah Eric...that's great. You're gonna vote for an avowed gun grabbing, speech muzzling, socialist healthcare providing tyrant. Nice job. Keep hiding from the truth. RAH RAH George Bush! He's better than Algore! Whoo hoooo..... [rolleyes] Scott |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:28:08 AM EDT
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Quoted: [b]Steady now, boyz![/b] As Margaret Thatcher was so fond of saying, 'Let's not go wobbly' on this one! LOL. It's a real disaster for the First amendment, all right, but one that can, and will be, rectified in due course. How? By introducing [i]new[/i] legislation to repeal it? By bringing it before the Supreme Court again? ALL THREE branches are fucking us now, where the hell are we to go? President Bush and his legal advisors blew it big time, by failing to use his 'bully pulpit' to veto the CFR law and telling the American People what they needed to hear - that POLITICAL FREE SPEECH was the only speech that the Founding Fathers wished to protect. Yes, and instead of doing just that, they went along with it like the shams that they are. This decision and the CFR law itself, does not protect POLITICAL SPEECH at all! Well, no shit, sherlock. It actually [b]criminalizes[/b] it! A bad day. A very bad day indeed. You got that right, my internet friend. Oh well, it won't change my vote in 2004 in the least... How can you hope that things will change if you keep voting for the people who are pushing this shit through? How? If you continually pick up a snake and it continually bites you, why on earth would you think "next time" will be any different? |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:30:34 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted: RAH RAH George Bush! He's better than Algore! Whoo hoooo..... [rolleyes] Scott He is, isnt he? |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:31:29 AM EDT
[#15]
Oh boy..........
[rolleyes] So now you're going to vote for Dean/Democratic Party??? You think he's going to do a better job than Bush/Republican party??? WAKE UP! I hate voting for the lesser of two evils more than the next guy, but unless you're willing to run for office and do a better job, OR get armed to the gills and actually come up with a plan and lead an armed revolt, OR something in between these two extremes......... STHU with the Bush bashing. [:D] |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:34:37 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted: I hate voting for the lesser of two evils more than the next guy, but unless you're willing to run for office and do a better job, OR get armed to the gills and actually come up with a plan for an armed revolt, OR something in between these two extremes......... [red]STHU with the Bush bashing.[/red] This legislation is aimed at precisely that. If Ronald Reagan knew what was going on, he'd bitch-slap Bush Jr. in a Texas second. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:38:28 AM EDT
[#17]
Are you finally ready to join me?
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:39:54 AM EDT
[#18]
Ponder for a moment all that has happened politically since our beloved Republicans have assumed control of our federal government. It: Opposes arming pilots to protect airliners [>:/] Well, Republicans passed the bill that armed the pilots and President Bush signed it. How does that equal oppose? Favors extending the AWB Opposes free speech during election cycles Favors expanding "New Deal" and "Great Society" give-away programs Seeks to increase the spying powers of the gov't against its own people Yup, that all sucks. No doubt. WHERE IS OUR FUCKING "LINE IN THE SAND!!??" If you can't gather enough people to leverage our political system into giving you what you want, you stand exactly zero chance of taking it by force. My guess is people are reluctant to draw a line in the sand when the outcome of that game is already very clear. Otherwise, they'd all be drawing their lines instead of worrying about who was going to join them or asking when will it be enough? |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:43:34 AM EDT
[#19]
Well, just as I feared, I see 'wobbliness' all about us!
If the DEMOs get smacked with these strictures the same as the GOP, they will both be drafting some [i]new[/i] legislation rather quickly. Unless you are advocating armed rebellion, [i]mon cher capitaine[/i], what do you propose that we do? Flock to the Libertarian or Constitutional Party where we can lose, but perhaps a little less spectacularly, next election cycle? Sorry, but NO CAN DO! The answer is in fixing the old car, not buying someone else's headache! Just remember the old Franch maxim, [i]mon cher capitaine[/i], [b][i]Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.[/i][/b] Eric The(Ordinarily,Francophobe)Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:44:16 AM EDT
[#20]
I will correct anyone who says that we are the land of the free. Many hardcore socialist countries now have more freedom of speech than we do. And I'd love to debate any politician who claims to be a 'defender of the constitution'.
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:45:16 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted: Originally Posted By EricThe[red](head in the sand)[/red]Hun: Oh well, it won't change my vote in 2004 in the least Yeah Eric...that's great. You're gonna vote for an avowed gun grabbing, speech muzzling, socialist healthcare providing tyrant. Nice job. Keep hiding from the truth. RAH RAH George Bush! He's better than Algore! Whoo hoooo..... [rolleyes] Scott Don't morals mean anything any more and how about kicking ass in the Middle East? [banghead] No matter who was president they wouldn't be good enough for some on this board. Clount your blessings.... Dirk |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:46:26 AM EDT
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Quoted: So now you're going to vote for Dean/Democratic Party??? You know, jethead, I like you. It detracts from my affection for you when you make silly unfounded ASSumptions. I never said I would vote Demublican OR Republicrat. I will vote for the BEST MAN. I will THINK FOR MYSELF and not vote for either name of the ONE PARTY in power. And I have to say this: With a democrat pres and a repub legislature, DEADLOCK would result. THAT IS FAR BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW! BUSH IS THE DEMOCRATS BEST MAN EVER! They're only mad because they can't take credit, but ALL his actions are on THEIR ISSUES. WAKE UP! [b]YOU[/b] wake up!! [B]WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR YOU BUSH RELIGIONISTS TO WAKE THE FUCK UP?!?![/B] I hate voting for the lesser of two evils more than the next guy, Put your money where your mouth is. If not, you have a problem with personal inegrity. There are others out there who are willing to run and do a better job. STHU with the Bush bashing. If Bush wasn't such a socialist pro-gun-banning, welfare-statist, I would. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:47:24 AM EDT
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I sure am glad to see that some of ya'll are on the same page as I am. This country(God bless it)has gone to hell in a hand basket starting just after the "War of Northern Aggression" to the present with no sign of getting any better short of an all out over throw of the now disfunctional government. The main problem is that no one wants to break any laws and be put in jail by standing up for what they believe in. 2nd.Amend. wise, we're screwed. We've been left with a few token firearms to keep us quiet and make us think we still have "firearms rights" but we all know that's a bunch of hog wash. Now their beating up on the 1st Amend. and we don't have the fire power(or the balls) to change things. Damn it, we're all going to die some day, why not die fighting for what we believe in and trying to make a difference? We should have marched against the government when they had Randy Weaver trapped in his house and kicked the FBI's butt, we did nothing. We should have marched on the ATF when they held the Davidians captive, we did not. What in the sam hill is it going to take to make us come together and kick some butt? When ya'll figure it out give me a call and I'll get my gear together, until then I'll sip my Whiskey and watch Hockey.
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:48:33 AM EDT
[#24]
So we compromise with the Devil and just ever so slightly slow the process? We shouldn't be having to fix something that never should have happened in the first place. The "wobbliness" I see is in the compromising of principles.
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:50:26 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted: Just remember the old Franch maxim, [i]mon cher capitaine[/i], [b][i]Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.[/i][/b] I'll take a wack! "More it changes, more it's the same choice." I guess that goes to the English version of "The more things change, the more they stay the same!" |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:50:35 AM EDT
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Quoted: If the DEMOs get smacked with these strictures the same as the GOP, they will both be drafting some [i]new[/i] legislation rather quickly. Earth to ETH: [i]They're the ones who passed it into law in the first place.[/i] Unless you are advocating armed rebellion, [i]mon cher capitaine[/i], what do you propose that we do? I'm going to violate this piece of shit law in a big fucking way and go from there. I'm going to call every radio talk show I can, state my name and my hometown, and tell America that this is one citizen who has had enough. I'm going to be "in your face" about this in a polite way. I'm going to defy the destroyers of our Constitution. I'm going to draw my line. I'm going to dare the destroyers to cross it. If I get shit-canned from this world, I will do it as a free man, not cowering in fear as peasants do. I will explain all this to my wife and children and perhaps some day they will understand. The Goblin is on the warpath. That is what I am going to do. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 8:50:58 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted: Don't morals mean anything any more I don't follow. Are you comparing Bush to Clinton and his blow jobs? Yes, morals count, but that's not the issue at hand. and how about kicking ass in the Middle East? I don't live in the Middle East. I live here, and my freedoms are eroding, [b]HERE.[/b] My wealth is being redistributed [b]HERE.[/b] Scott |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 9:05:39 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted: Just remember the old Franch maxim, [i]mon cher capitaine[/i], [b][i]Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.[/i][/b] Eric The(Ordinarily,Francophobe)Hun[>]:)] English man! English! (preferably of a southern dialect [:D]) |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 9:07:57 AM EDT
[#29]
Post from JohnGalt -
So we compromise with the Devil and just ever so slightly slow the process? I never compromise with the Devil and wouldn't suggest that anyone else do so either. Compromise is what the Founding Fathers did when they created this great nation. Between the large states and the small states. Between the slave-holding states and those without slaves. Oh, I see, sometimes compromise is good but sometimes it is bad? I think we can all agree on that! We shouldn't be having to fix something that never should have happened in the first place. We do it all the time! The AWB should never have passed in the first place! But our folks made certain that a 'sunset' provision was placed into it, first, before it got approved. The "wobbliness" I see is in the compromising of principles. So what high ground will you and your family be defending in the coming civil war? Are you fully prepared? Would you care to postpone it a few years to give yourself time to more fully prepare? Or would you rather elect better leaders and maybe not have to resort to insurrection at all? The day you see me compromising core beliefs and principles should be the very day you gather your family onto that hilltop! Eric The(NotNow,NotYet)Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 9:27:19 AM EDT
[#30]
Yes, ETH, sometimes compromise is good and sometimes it's bad. I'd say compromise to found this nation is good, and compromise to facilitate its destruction is bad.
Sure we compromise all the time, and so we only lost 10 years (likely more when it's renewed) re: the AWB compromise. What "better leaders" do you see in the two major parties? Or another four years of Bush? He's accelerated our descent! |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 9:28:57 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted: Ponder for a moment all that has happened politically since our beloved Republicans have assumed control of our federal government. It: Favors extending the AWB Opposes arming pilots to protect airliners Opposes free speech during election cycles Favors expanding "New Deal" and "Great Society" give-away programs Seeks to increase the spying powers of the gov't against its own people I hate posts like this, because I always feel impelled to buy more mags. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 9:29:16 AM EDT
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ETH, if it ever comes to the "hilltop", I'd be honored to join you.
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Posted: 12/10/2003 9:29:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: Yes, ETH, sometimes compromise is good and sometimes it's bad. I'd say compromise to found this nation is good, and compromise to facilitate its destruction is bad. Sure we compromise all the time, and so we only lost 10 years (likely more when it's renewed) re: the AWB compromise. What "better leaders" do you see in the two major parties? Or another four years of Bush? He's accelerated our descent! |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 9:30:42 AM EDT
[#34]
DF, Can you see me?
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Posted: 12/10/2003 9:32:45 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted: ETH, if it ever comes to the "hilltop", I'd be honored to join you. And I would be honored by your presence, as well! I have enough for all of us, so just get yourself and your loved ones to the hilltop. [red][b]'It is sufficient'[/b][/red], the Lord once said. Eric The(Unreconstructed)Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 9:38:28 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted: DF, Can you see me? |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 9:53:50 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted: Are you finally ready to join me? Yes. Please send coordinates to remote mountainous region. Will attempt radio contact when I see the sign "$" |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 9:55:03 AM EDT
[#38]
[img]http://www.georgewbush.com/images/downloads/GWB_logo_350.gif[/img]
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Posted: 12/10/2003 9:57:25 AM EDT
[#39]
Line in the sand .. line in the sand. Where the Hell did I see that. Oh, wait.
*gets out the telescope and turns around* Yeap, way back yonder. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 10:04:27 AM EDT
[#40]
WG I could not agree with you more! I vote for the BEST candidate running period. I have great respect for ETH and those like him, after all we all have the same end goal in mind. However I see voting for the best candidate the last chance to stop collapse. If we keep compromising and playing politics we are doomed. Even a cursory glance at the last 40 years of our two party system shows a miserable downward spiral.
I dream of a day when the Libertarians and the Constitutionalists debate on such topics as “how fast do we abolish welfare”, “do we return to the gold standard on Q1 or Q3”, and “do we really need shall issue permits for Class III anymore” |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 10:17:28 AM EDT
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If it were just as simple as voting for 'the best candidate', then all you would have to do is to write in 'Eric The Hun' on your ballot next Election Day!
I would turn this country around so fast, your bong would tump over onto the carpet. I would, however, caution you that possibly only several dozen or so folks would do likewise, meaning, more or less, that your vote would be frittered away! As vain and pompous as I might be, I cannot ask you to throw your cherished vote away just to raise my self-esteem. No more than I could ask you to vote for Libertarian Party or Constitutional Party candidates who might only get several more dozen votes than I would! Just remember that the Election of 1988 was the 'high water' mark of the Libertarian Party, and being as we are all familiar with the 'high water mark of the Confederacy' which occurred on the afternoon of July 3, 1863, in a small hamlet in Pennsylvania named Gettysburg, I think that you can understand that while I agree with everything Jefferson Davis said then, and just about everything the Libertrian Party stands for now, it will not change the outcome one iota. And that, my dear friend, is the entirety of my views on third parties. If the Libertarians were the 'one', then they would still be on the ascendancy and not on the decline. Sorry, but history is a 'bitch' at times, is she not? Eric The(Metaphorical)Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 10:17:51 AM EDT
[#42]
[b]I don't think we're in Kansas anymore Toto.[/b]
This is a post 9-11 world and always will be. You can never put time back in the bottle and this country can never be like it was three years ago. Was it April of this year when Majority Leader Tom DeLay said that "the votes aren't there" to pass the gun ban and that a bill to reauthorize the ban will not come to the House floor. Yeah, it was. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 10:18:13 AM EDT
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Fellas, when I was fresh out of college, I was asked to run for public office. Reluctantly, I agreed to do so (after initially turning the Republican Committee down). As the Lord would have it, I won the election and was State Representative for my district.
I went where few dare to go. Now, with a little more time under my belt, the need arises yet again for someone to stand up and announce, "No More!" Again, I will venture into territory few people dare to go. Freedom and our posterity are praying for certain Americans to rise up and protect the inalienable rights our Founding Fathers said we were born with. The time has come. I will again go where few dare to go. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 10:38:49 AM EDT
[#44]
ETH, if you're right, then, based on what we're seeing these days, the "one" is now who can confiscate and distribute the most wealth (or spend what doesn't exist), and reinterpret the Constitution most ingeniously.
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Posted: 12/10/2003 10:42:21 AM EDT
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I vote for the BEST person WHO AT LEAST HAS A SHOT AT WINNING. To do anything else is to vote for the other side. All those saps who thought Perot was some kind of saviour HANDED the election to Klinton. Not that there would've been much difference between the two, or even George Herbert Walker Bush. But then again... GHWB AT LEAST had done some things in his life to deserve a smidgen of respect (WWII veteran, etc). Willy not only had done no such things, but continued to do his trailer trash acts inside the White House.
The same goes for Dubbya. He ain't perfect. He does things that are not good for the country. But I dare ANYONE to tell me HOW IN THE HELL AlGore would have been a better choice for America than Bush. I'm sure some will. I want to hear the logic. The system is corrupt. The players are corrupt. The times are corrupt. It's all in prophecy. It's most likely going to go down as written. It ain't going to be pretty. GW isn't going to stop it. But no ONE person could. It would take the entire country (in other words -- THE PEOPLE) to stop being so selfish, so stupid, and so sinfull to fix it now. Understand that I am not totally resigned to this fate, but I am realistically preparing for it. So I don't care if you elected Moses to the throne -- if the people don't want to choose to live the right way then it ain't gonna matter. Remember Moses? The Godly man who felt like God had cursed him as he wandered in the wilderness for 40 years with a bunch of selfish whiners. I would imagine that being the POTUS would feel much like that. Just my $.02... [:)] Edited to add: The bunch of selfish whiners that I am refering to in my post are most likely NOT here on this board. However, we are all a bunch of selfish whiners at times. Also, as stated above, 9/11 changed things for us whether we like it or not. The sheeple demand that the gub'mnt make them feel "safe". So the gub'mnt is doing as requested. Which brings us back to the fact that the problem with this country is really with ITS PEOPLE in the end. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 10:49:54 AM EDT
[#46]
Well, there you have it, mateys!
Our very own [b]Wobblin-Goblin[/b] will go up against the Leviathan! I say three Huzzahs for [b]Wobblin-Goblin[/b]! [b]Huzzah, Huzzah Huzzah![/b] I feel like moving to Connecticut and joining him in this endeavor! Yep, we should all pack out bags for...Connecticut...and set this country on the right course. And...wait a minute...Connecticut? Did we just agree that the Revolution begins in Connecticut? Whoa, hoss, that ain't right! [i]Connecticut?[/i] Maybe two hundred some-odd years ago, we could get a Revolution off the ground in Connecticut. But I think the authorities will have little difficulty in stamping out whatever flames are ignited in Connecticut! Now, Idaho, there's a state with some potential! Tell you what, y'all unseat the two liberal azzed DEMO Senators in Connecticut, you know, Doddering-Lieberman, as a show of goodwill, and all, and we will join you there! YeeeHaaaawww! This shouldn't take too long! Eric The(EverHopeful)Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 10:54:43 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted: Quoted: So now you're going to vote for Dean/Democratic Party??? You know, jethead, I like you. It detracts from my affection for you when you make silly unfounded ASSumptions. I never said I would vote Demublican OR Republicrat. I will vote for the BEST MAN. I will THINK FOR MYSELF and not vote for either name of the ONE PARTY in power. And I have to say this: With a democrat pres and a repub legislature, DEADLOCK would result. THAT IS FAR BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW! BUSH IS THE DEMOCRATS BEST MAN EVER! They're only mad because they can't take credit, but ALL his actions are on THEIR ISSUES. WAKE UP! [b]YOU[/b] wake up!! [B]WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR YOU BUSH RELIGIONISTS TO WAKE THE FUCK UP?!?![/B] I hate voting for the lesser of two evils more than the next guy, Put your money where your mouth is. If not, you have a problem with personal inegrity. There are others out there who are willing to run and do a better job. STHU with the Bush bashing. If Bush wasn't such a socialist pro-gun-banning, welfare-statist, I would. I'm glad you like me. No really, I do want to be liked, I consider this place part of my extended family and a "home away from home" if you will. [:D] Having said that here's what I'm for. Fire everybody. Every single politician (elected official) including the Supreme Court everywhere at every single level, Federal, State, local. Right down to the local school board. Anybody that's ever been elected to any office anywhere in this nation at any level...............fired. Start with the Federal level, firing starts tomorrow, elections begin Jan. 1 2004. None of these fired officials may ever run for any elected position anywhere ever again. Get a frickin job. Right now. Once you're elected to an office you can never run for that office again, you can move up, not laterally, not back down, only up. Include TERM LIMITS. No more lifetime positions at any level. 4 year maximum term. No more special "retirement programs" for elected officials. Pension funds are OK, BUT you must pay into them with your own money AND you will depend on your own investments and Social Security to fund your retirement just like the rest of us. Secret Service will protect you while you're in office, when you're out of office hire your own security if you think you need it. NO Lobbyist anywhere, for any reason, at any time, ever. No "Special Interest Groups" at all for anybody, any group, any business or any race at all ever. If you are not in a severely disabled, elderly with no family to support you, mentally retarded or wiped out by a natural disaster, no welfare from the state or feds at all ever. You must be a citizen by birth, own land and pay taxes to vote. You must be a citizen by birth to serve in the U.S. military. You must be a citizen by birth to hold any elected position. Flat tax. Across the board, EVERYBODY pay's the same percentage. If you can come up with a fairer plan, I'm listening. No luxury tax. No tax on food, prepared or otherwise food is necessary to live. No tax on keeping yourself fed. Capitol punishment becomes standard NOT MANDATORY on crimes like 1st degree murder, rape, and child molestation. Appeals on convictions only if you can pay for your own defense. No court appointed defense on appeal cases. No gun laws..........at all. Except that you have to be 18 to purchase, not to possess. 18 to CCW. No more United Nations. Withdraw our "membership", and give the rest of them 3 months to exit the country. Tear down the building and put up a park to help cleanse the air surrounding that place. Right now. Stop all Federal "subsidizing", right now. If your business cannot turn a profit your business goes out of business. No more "forgiving" federal loans to foreign countries. You borrow the $$, you will pay it back in $$ with interest. < That's a period. No more "mandatory sentencing guidelines" for criminal activity. You do the crime you will be tried by a jury of your peers and sentenced by a judge and jury who's hands are not bound by restrictions set by the Feds. Stop the "war on drugs" right now. Dissolve any Government agency responsible for carrying out this wasted effort. Enforce the common sense drug laws we already have. Elected officials do not have the ability to "vote" on their own pay and benefit packages, these items will be put to scrutiny/vote by the the constituents. Purposely burning the flag of the United States of America is a crime and if done within the continental United States is punishable by death. A person who kills my friend "Joe" get's treated no differently that somebody who kills the POTUS or a State Police Officer. Murder of any human being is murdering a human being. Respect the man not the office the man created. There's a start, I reserve the right to add more later as I get pissed off about something else. [:D] Hope everybody still likes me. Flame away. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 10:59:14 AM EDT
[#48]
Quoted: All those saps who thought Perot was some kind of saviour HANDED the election to Klinton. Not that there would've been much difference between the two, or even George Herbert Walker Bush. Bush Sr. banned imported rifles he deemed "unsporting." He oversaw Ruby Ridge and tacitly approved of the results by not firing those involved in the planning of the raid. He was a "New World Order" man. He went back on his word ("Read my lips. NO NEW TAXES"). His was a failed presidency and fucking Mickey Mouse would have beat him. The same goes for Dubbya. He ain't perfect. He does things that are not good for the country. But I dare ANYONE to tell me HOW IN THE HELL AlGore would have been a better choice for America than Bush. I want to hear the logic. Dubya: Campaign Finance Reform...[b]Passed.[/b] Dubya: 1994 Assault Weapons Ban...[b]Approves.[/b] Dubya: Patriot Act/spying powers...[b]Passed.[/b] Dubya: Iraq has WMD...[b]None found.[/b] Dubya: Massive expansion of Medicare...[b]Passed.[/b] Dubya: Federal spending and budget deficit...[b]Soaring.[/b] Hard to imagine Gore being worse than all that... |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 11:03:54 AM EDT
[#49]
Let me tell you what, if somebody had told me in November of 2000 what George W. Bush was going to do for this country by the time New Year's Eve of 2004 arrived, I would have puked.
No way would I have voted for him. |
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Posted: 12/10/2003 11:10:04 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted: I'm ready now. We need to start with the IRS... Unfortunately, the masses won't be ready until we are in another "Great Depression" type of economic collapse. As long as "Joe Sixpack" still has a roof over his head, and the game on the set, he won't be too fired up to make any changes. |
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