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I've often wondered why they don't go with plastic-cased ammo.
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I believe Abrams main gun ammo has a "consumable or combustable" type case. I'd also bet it has "issues"
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As a "de-tanked" Tanker training as a door-busting Hummer rider, I can offer at least a little insight on both the new rifle and why not casless:
The M1 ammo is actually pretty reliable, as reliable as the old cased stuff, and the tradeoff for what fragility it does have, is definitly overshadowed by the fact the interior of an M1 is very, VERY finite, and you are far more combat effective with only the little aft cap and its weird, elongated protrusion that ensures a good even burn, than with a huge bit of steel or brass hanging about. Yes, the shells get wet, and sometimes rip, and get damaged, but they're not overly sensitive, and are stored in very very effective storage areas and magazines.
Here's the difference between an M1 and a rifle round- how many main-gun rounds does an infantryman have to carry to be effective? How many of them does a Tanker have to carry? See what I'm getting at? If one in ten of our rounds is unservicable, its no big deal, with an infantryman it'd be a nightmare.
As for the XM-8? Look, I'm a long time .22 cal hater, but I've qualified expert with my M4, and after shooting the M16 yesterday on tactical drills, I'd take my M4 any day over a full sized weapon. Chief complaints about the M4 is:
Reliability/maintenance access: The M4 has all the nooks and crannies in the M16's fire control system and guts, and in Iraq we'll have to clean them on the hour to keep them combat-effective when we need them, our six combat vets in our platoon are adamant about that. Will the XM8 be easier to clean and take more crud than the M4? Will the curse of the AR handguard be lifted? Taking those things off in a hurry is a F'ing curse...especially on new weapons like ours....
Range/punch- for CQB its fine, but even in CQB a double-tap is a near must to effectivly disable a target, I believe in trying to drop one target per round, but hey, its just me. In a city with a tactical scope, its probably just fine for accuracy, so I've got no issues there for Iraq. Something needs to be done to talor a new cartridge for short barreled infantry weapons so that it'll be more effective- faster burning poweder, tighter rifling, I dunno, something necessairy. I wouldnt cry if we went to a 6mm or 6.5mm cartridge 'round the same size as the 5.56x45mm, mebby like a 6mm PPC (6x40mm)....gotta be a way to make these compact weapons more effective. 5.56 has had its day, and it was certainly no .30-06...time to let the whiz-bang boys cook us up something new....
Just my $.02