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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:32:27 PM EDT
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Who the fuck is vista?
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:32:49 PM EDT
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I will be replacing my HST with Gold Dots.
ETA- SGammo doesnt appear to want credentials |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:34:29 PM EDT
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Who the fuck is vista? |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:34:53 PM EDT
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Vista Outdoor Brands
Vista Outdoors Social Responsibility Before anyone else gets powerfully butt hurt over the thread topic and first post, do some verification on your own. I'm not ready to believe this revelation. Quoted:
Go look online, every retails has "must be leo, click here to send creds". No more 50 round boxes for us, only the get raped in price small boxes. Post three examples from unrelated retailers. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:35:30 PM EDT
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SGAmmo doesn't care, they're got HST in stock.
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:35:35 PM EDT
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Go look online, every retails has "must be leo, click here to send creds". No more 50 round boxes for us, only the get raped in price small boxes. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:36:13 PM EDT
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Fake news?
Go to SGammo. 50 round box and you don't have to prove anything except that you have money. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:36:16 PM EDT
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They own Savage too. I wonder if certain rifles are about to be unobtanium as well or if this is just a thing to make sure they meet LE demand.
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:36:21 PM EDT
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in stock here and I don't see any requirement of LEO/Mil.
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/federal-law-enforcement-9mm-luger-ammo-124-grain-hst-jacketed-hollow-point-p9hst1-p-3546.aspx |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:36:36 PM EDT
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Time for Federal to get S&W / Ruger'd for a while then?
Edit: Looking retailer specific as I read further. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:37:20 PM EDT
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Walmart sells it
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:38:34 PM EDT
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Walmart sells it |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:39:00 PM EDT
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SGAmmo doesn't care, they're got HST in stock. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:39:52 PM EDT
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Who the fuck is vista? |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:39:55 PM EDT
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I buy pulled hst from American reloading by the 500s
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:41:35 PM EDT
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in the 20 round box, for the same price as the 50 count Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Walmart sells it I know some people that work for Hornady and they were surprised that I managed to score a 50rd box despite not being LE. They wanted to know where I got it but, "I don't recall." |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:41:44 PM EDT
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I will be replacing my HST with Gold Dots. ETA- SGammo doesnt appear to want credentials |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:41:58 PM EDT
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Go look online, every retails has "must be leo, click here to send creds". No more 50 round boxes for us, only the get raped in price small boxes. Unless I', miss-understanding, I'm not seeing it. I just went to SGammo and looked at a 1000 round case of .40 HST ""LE"" Marketed ammo. https://www.sgammo.com/product/40-cal-ammo/1000-round-case-40-hst-federal-le-165-grain-hollow-point-p40hst3-ammo Here is a 50 round box of .45 https://www.sgammo.com/product/federal-ammo-sale/50-round-box-45-auto-federal-hst-230-grain-hp-hollow-point-le-ammo-p45hst2 If they did pull some BS, they are only hurting their own company... I'd bet that citizen consumers as a group, buy a bit more than various LE agencies... IF true, sounds like another Dicks... ***ETA*** Someone beat me to posting the links to Sgammo... |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:42:02 PM EDT
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Go look online, every retails has "must be leo, click here to send creds". No more 50 round boxes for us, only the get raped in price small boxes. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:42:16 PM EDT
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I got an email from Bone Frog Gun Club this morning that said they were being forced to do the same going forward.
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:42:31 PM EDT
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Vista Outdoor Brands Vista Outdoors Social Responsibility Before anyone else gets powerfully butt hurt over the thread topic and first post, do some verification on your own. I'm not ready to believe this revelation. @thocomehome Post three examples from unrelated retailers. I own zero bumpstocks. I will continue to shoot carry either Ranger T's or Gold Dots. I will replace my HST .45 ammo with Ranger T's or Gold Dots. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:42:48 PM EDT
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Not cool Vista
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:43:01 PM EDT
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It's not fake news. It's happening.
It's primarily about profit. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:43:39 PM EDT
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I will be replacing my HST with Gold Dots. ETA- SGammo doesnt appear to want credentials Bone Frog Gun Club, who has frequently sold ammo that was officially LE only like red box Hornady LE TAP, now says LE Only on product pages for both HST and Gold Dot. The HST page links to their credential form, while the Gold Dot page does not. (Edit: looks like some Gold Dot pages do have the form as well as the LE only message). Edited to add links: 9mm HST, Gold Dot |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:43:49 PM EDT
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I only carry Underwood full power 10mm ammo in my carry pistols. I don't use the under powered Federal 10mm cartridges anyway. Doesn't affect me.
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:43:59 PM EDT
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Walmart sells it |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:44:26 PM EDT
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I won't buy pistol ammo in 20 round boxes, period.
If they don't want my business that's fine. Plenty of gold dot 50 round boxes out there. But 20 round boxes? Will not buy, not now and not ever. I've also got enough HSTs and gold dots already that I dont really need to buy more. I like to stock up, but I can deprive them of business for a very very long time. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:45:04 PM EDT
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They may care when they are no longer an HST dealer. I won't be mad at SG but I will not buy 20 round boxes of ammo. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:45:33 PM EDT
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So time to slam Federals facebook with harsh posts and bad reviews?
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:46:13 PM EDT
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I got an email from Bone Frog Gun Club this morning that said they were being forced to do the same going forward. Oh well. Times come and go |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:46:16 PM EDT
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Too late fuckers! My grand kids will be shooting that shit (after dumping it out of 50 rnd boxes).
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:46:51 PM EDT
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Well fuck.
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:47:04 PM EDT
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I did find this, a bit old, from May of this year... Not the same, but relevant to the path Vista looks to be planning on taking.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/vista-outdoor-aims-to-exit-several-brands-including-firearms-1525183300 |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:48:20 PM EDT
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I will be replacing my HST with Gold Dots. ETA- SGammo doesnt appear to want credentials pistol-forum.com saying that prices on all HST & Gold Dots have risen. Seems like they're desperately trying to fill a contract or are enforcing a new policy (or old one that was never followed). ETA: Or just want more money. Probably the most likely. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:48:26 PM EDT
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So time to slam Federals facebook with harsh posts and bad reviews? Hurt them all. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:48:54 PM EDT
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Maybe, but I'll buy gold dots then. I won't be mad at SG but I will not buy 20 round boxes of ammo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They may care when they are no longer an HST dealer. I won't be mad at SG but I will not buy 20 round boxes of ammo. 
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:50:02 PM EDT
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They may care when they are no longer an HST dealer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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SGAmmo doesn't care, they're got HST in stock. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:50:53 PM EDT
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Vista Outdoor Brands Vista Outdoors Social Responsibility Before anyone else gets powerfully butt hurt over the thread topic and first post, do some verification on your own. I'm not ready to believe this revelation. @thocomehome Post three examples from unrelated retailers. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:53:16 PM EDT
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I did find this, a bit old, from May of this year... Not the same, but relevant to the path Vista looks to be planning on taking. https://www.wsj.com/articles/vista-outdoor-aims-to-exit-several-brands-including-firearms-1525183300 Most members here have no idea the number of brands owned by Vista. I was hoping the page I linked was one large .jpg image to link here, but it's not, so I'll depend on everyone to look at the page themselves, and in the mean time I'll look for a hot woman to walk past my desk. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:53:26 PM EDT
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Vista Outdoor Brands Vista Outdoors Social Responsibility Before anyone else gets powerfully butt hurt over the thread topic and first post, do some verification on your own. I'm not ready to believe this revelation. @thocomehome Post three examples from unrelated retailers. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:53:57 PM EDT
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I've heard LEO only for big boxes for as long as they've sold HST. Never had a problem buying it by the case load from SGAmmo or Target Sports. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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SGAmmo doesn't care, they're got HST in stock. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:54:00 PM EDT
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ammotogo has 50rd boxes
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:54:55 PM EDT
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Based on the links you provided Vista supports regulation of bump stocks... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Vista Outdoor Brands Vista Outdoors Social Responsibility Before anyone else gets powerfully butt hurt over the thread topic and first post, do some verification on your own. I'm not ready to believe this revelation. @thocomehome Post three examples from unrelated retailers. 
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:56:16 PM EDT
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I miss rangers. Winchester did this years ago. They are pretty hard to find now.
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:56:51 PM EDT
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I’ve seen this said a few times but have never seen it at walmart Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Walmart sells it |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:57:42 PM EDT
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I only carry Underwood full power 10mm ammo in my carry pistols. I don't use the under powered Federal 10mm cartridges anyway. Doesn't affect me. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:58:18 PM EDT
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From Bone Frog Gun Club on 124gr HST ammo:
**Per manufacturer requirements, this product (50 round boxes of P9HST3) is available for purchase by LE and Qualified Customers Only |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 12:59:03 PM EDT
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There are NO 50 round boxes of 9mm GOLD DOT at target sports usa. All 20 round. 60cpr.
They still have 50 round boxes of HST. |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 1:00:00 PM EDT
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ETA- SGammo doesnt appear to want credentials |
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Posted: 10/24/2018 1:02:01 PM EDT
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so what's the difference between hst and their white box jhp, other than the weight in this example?
https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/100-rounds-federal174-9mm-147-grain-jhp-ammo?a=789188 |
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