Actually that series was very compelling.

Agreed that Johnson was the worst Pres we ever had.

Quoted: Nothing new to me.  Gerald Posner wrote an excellent book in the early 1990s that had to same Johnson consiracy premise.  From watching the show on the History Channel, it seems that a lot more new evidence has emerged to corroborate Posners book.

Are you perhaps referring to Gerald Posner's 1993 book, Case Closed?

That was an excellent exposition for the fact that there was NO conspiracy and that both Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby were acting alone and as the result of their own private demons!

The closing lines of Posner's book still ring true and convincing today:

"Lee Harvey Oswald, driven by his own twisted and impenetrable furies, was the only assassin at Dealey Plaza on November 22, 1963.  To say otherwise, in light of the overwhelming evidence, is to absolve a man with blood on his hands, and mock the President he killed."

A few years later, Posner wrote Killing The Dream, about the assassination of Martin Luther King, and finds that James Earl Ray was acting alone in that murder, as well.

My kind of guy!

The debunking of the conspiracy buffs' 'facts' in the Kennedy Assassination is well worth the read!

Eric The(Sensible,AsAlways)Hun

BTW, Gerald Posner just recently published Why America Slept concerning the Attack of September 11th.

It's a very good read about the failure of the intelligence community and the Clinton Administration to effectively deal with terrorism prior to 9-11-01.

Eric The(BookCritic)Hun

Hey, hey, LBJ?
By HOLLY HILDEBRAND  HoustonChronicle.com

Brutus. Macbeth. Richard III.

Think of their stories, and it is not difficult to understand why some conspiracy theorists might look to Lyndon B. Johnson as a culprit in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

Throughout history, assassinated leaders have often been succeeded by their killers. There were Julius Caesar crying out "Et tu, Brute?" as his friend and other senators sunk knives into him; Macbeth seizing the throne of Scotland after dispatching Duncan; Richard III allegedly murdering the two little princes that stood between him and the English crown.

In 1967 -- when loathing for Johnson was widespread because of his escalation of the Vietnam War -- Barbara Garson's play MacBird cast Johnson in a murderous light. With few apologies to William Shakespeare, Garson had adapted the tragic Scottish Play (with bits of Hamlet thrown in) to create a satire involving a Johnson-like character named "MacBird" who came to power after the killing of a charismatic president named John Ken O'Dunc. As in Shakespeare, the slain leader was avenged by a close relative, in this case a caricature of Robert Kennedy.

Twenty-four years later, Oliver Stone's controversial movie JFK also cast suspicion on Johnson -- through innuendo more than anything else.

And then there was Johnson's personality itself. He had an ambition as big as the Lone Star State; his enmity for Kennedy's brother and attorney general, Robert, was well known; and he might have feared that JFK would drop him from the ticket in 1964. After all, Johnson counted among his friends Bobby Baker and Billie Sol Estes, two men tainted by notorious scandals.

Despite these circumstances and popular manifestations of suspicion, there has never been one iota of evidence to show that Johnson was involved.

In fact, recently released tapes of his phone conversations have revealed him to be more sensitive than had been widely thought; in calls to Jacqueline Kennedy in the days and months after the death of her husband, he seems almost pathetically eager to be kind to her, at one point even suggesting that he might be a "daddy" to her two fatherless children. To say such a thing to a woman after conspiring to murder her husband would have required a depravity that even Johnson's severest critics might not have been willing to grant him.

www.chron.com/content/chronicle/special/jfk/theory/lbj.html

Eric The(Out,Out,DamnSpot)Hun

Sorry, but this is a repost of mine from avengeusa's earlier thread on this History Channel program:

Here's the 'Ten Wackiest Kennedy Assassination Theories' and they all seem more plausible than what some of y'all are talking about!

people.fix.no/pudding/burton/kennedy/theories.html

But here is a more solid exposition on why one man, after believing in all the conspiracy crap for most of his adult life, changed his mind:

mcadams.posc.mu.edu/oncebuff.htm

Most intriguing is this fellow's attempts to match the Zapruder film with the 'open mike' recording made by the Dallas Motorcycle patrolman's radio, which figured heavily at the House Select Committee on Assassinations in the late 70's, and the resulting fact that the 'movie' and the 'soundtrack' could NOT be matched.

But this subject will never be satisfactorily concluded in the minds of a few.

Eric The(NoConspiracyBuffHere)Hun

Well, DvlDog, Gerald Posner addressed just that issue in his book, Case Closed, by citing a recreation and analysis of the Zapruder film whixh shows that Lee Harvey Oswald had a much greater amount of time to take his three shots than the conspiracy buffs would like to admit.

Failure Analysis Associates, Inc., took the Zapruder film and analyzed it carefully.

Anytime a human is filming with a handheld camera and a gunshot occurs anywhere nearby, there is a slight shake or jiggle in the image on the film.

Failure Analysis detected the slight jiggle in each of the relevant frames of the Zapruder film and the time period was expanded by almost 2 seconds, IIRC.

Sufficient time for a mediocre marksman to pick up his target, and Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine trained in at least basic marksmanship, was he not?

Anyway, the greatest discovery that I found in Posner's book was the sequence of the shots!

We know that there were three shots fired:

1. The 'magic bullet' shot - the one which the Warren Commission claimed struck both Kennedy and Governor Connolly.

2. The 'missed' shot - the one which struck a curb underneath the triple underpass and caused a chip to strike the face of a man standing there. Had he not been stopped and asked by a Dallas deputy sheriff why his face was bleeding, we would likely have never known about this missed shot!

3. The 'head shot - the one which tore off the front part of the President's head. His wife pressed the dangling skull back onto his head on the way to Parkland Hospital.

Now this sequence of shots, the magic bullet shot, the missed shot, and the head shot was the order that was accepted by the Warren Commission.

Governor Connolly maintained to his dying day that he was NOT hit by the first shot, but only by the second shot! 'I've been a deer hunter since I was a little boy, and I know what a rifle shot sounds like. I was hit by the 2nd shot!' he would insist!

The reason that the Warren Commission put the sequence in that order was that it was supposed that Oswald's first shot would have been his best!  They neglected to give weight to the fact that the line of sight for that first shot was through trees on the curb of Elm Street which obscured the target.

What Posner's book argues is that the correct sequence of Oswald's shots was this:

Missed shot, magic bullet shot, head shot!

It fell into place after that. Connolly was right, after all, he was hit by the 2nd shot and not the 1st one!

Anyway, if you are really interested in this subject, and even if you are convinced it was a conspiracy, you should read this book, if for no other reason than to tear its reasoning and 'facts' apart!

There have been attempts to refute Posner's positions and facts that he cites, but they are so insignificant as to indicate that they are unassailable.

Eric The(EyesWideShut)Hun

Me! Me! LARRYG, I am so stupid that I believe that Margarite Oswald's boy was acting alone on that Day in November!



What the Zapruder film clearly shows to me and a few others, is that at the moment that the 'head shot' hit Kennedy there was a distinct forward movement of the head, and then a sudden 'snap-back' as if the body were reacting to some outside stimulus, say, like the impact of a high powered rifle round to the old brain!

If there is ANYTHING that we can say with predictability about the actions of bullets and the reactions of the human body when struck by bullets, it is that there is NOTHING that we can say about the predictability of the actions of bullets, or the reactions of the human body to being struck by bullets!

But, truly, if this well documented, filmed, and sound recorded, murder has not been finally and completely solved over the last 40 years, with witnesses' memories clear and crisp, and alive, then, I regret to say, it will never be solved in some people's minds!

Luckily for the conspiracy theorists, Kennedy was not struck down by lightning on a golf course in Maryland, where there could be no doubt!

Although, knowing how this assassination conspiracy has become a 'cottage industry' for a whole lot of folks, I am certain that even then there would be theories on the motives of who scheduled Kennedy to play golf that stormy day, and who provided him with an aluminum umbrella that was bound to attract lightning!

Such is the way of the world, I suppose.

Eric The(FeetPlantedFirmlyOnTheGround,HeadInAss)Hun

Post from Javak -

What I like to know is what was Jackie looking for in the back of the car after JFK was shot.  I think after the second shot she crawled on the rear deck of the limo.

No, it was, I believe, after the third shot, the 'head shot', that Jackie crawled onto the top of the trunk.

She was either telling the Secret Service Agent who is seen in Zapruder's film climbing aboard the presidential limousine, 'they are trying to kill all of us', or she is simply trying to retrieve part of her husband's cranium from the rear trunk area!

Take your choice!

Eric The(Unfortunately,WeWillNeverKnow!)Hun