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Posted: 10/7/2018 6:18:16 PM EDT
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Tragically he won't be able to train with that rifle at Valor Ridge.  |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 8:41:11 PM EDT
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What’s the story with 88 Tactical? Seems like an easy leap for some libtard to associate them with the Neo-nazis. Founder of company from Nebraska |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 8:48:45 PM EDT
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I have never seen another AR15 on ARFcom with a mount that low and a fixed FSB. I have to think there is a reason for that. Absolute cowitness is as low as most people go. People who can use the BAC might be fine with that low of a mount however. Not everyone can use BAC unfortunately. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I'm saying the FSP is not a problem on that gun or 2.8 gazillion others just like it. Take that any way you want to. but the FSP is not a problem. Quoted: If you are seeing the FSP while using a red dot, you are doing it wrong. Unless you lack stereoscopic vision, you shouldn't be seeing anything other than the target with a dot on it. If you are sighting through it, all peepy eyed like a conventional magnified optic, you will see the FSP as a ghost, but if that is how you are using a red dot, you should just put a magnified optic on. You can believe, you can not believe, I can't help you. If you are using a red dot sight like a conventional magnified optic, you are doing it wrong. If you cannot use one as intended, again I can't help you, but used as designed by people with stereoscopic vision the FSP is no problem. None, period. If you have an Aimpoint or similar, turn it on, adjust the brightness (if it's not already on like it should be), then close the front cap, and shoot. Leave the front cap closed and continue to shoot until you dont notice that the front cap is closed. Now you are using it as intended. Again, if you are peeping through an Aimpoint or similar optic with one eye closed, you are using it wrong. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 9:28:55 PM EDT
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Tragically he won't be able to train with that rifle at Valor Ridge. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 9:33:16 PM EDT
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potatoes in this thread defending a negative 1/3 cowitness lol
I'm going to super glue a bunch of googly eyes to my FSB because it shouldn't matter, right? |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 9:33:41 PM EDT
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So what's the three letter agency he can't mention? |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 9:36:18 PM EDT
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My 2007 Bushmaster. Photo around 2012. Still looks the same.
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Posted: 10/7/2018 9:37:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/7/2018 9:38:21 PM EDT
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I wouldn't be able to get my eye behind that Aimpoint.
We had better shit than that in '07. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 9:41:13 PM EDT
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You’re probably already dead and don’t even know it.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But I've been led to believe you will die instantly without a KAC or similar
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Posted: 10/7/2018 9:43:25 PM EDT
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It's an Arms #22 M68 Aimpoint mount, it was hot shit before hot shit knew what it was. You can believe, you can not believe, I can't help you. If you are using a red dot sight like a conventional magnified optic, you are doing it wrong. If you cannot use one as intended, again I can't help you, but used as designed by people with stereoscopic vision the FSP is no problem. None, period. If you have an Aimpoint or similar, turn it on, adjust the brightness (if it's not already on like it should be), then close the front cap, and shoot. Leave the front cap closed and continue to shoot until you dont notice that the front cap is closed. Now you are using it as intended. Again, if you are peeping through an Aimpoint or similar optic with one eye closed, you are using it wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: I'm saying the FSP is not a problem on that gun or 2.8 gazillion others just like it. Take that any way you want to. but the FSP is not a problem. Quoted: If you are seeing the FSP while using a red dot, you are doing it wrong. Unless you lack stereoscopic vision, you shouldn't be seeing anything other than the target with a dot on it. If you are sighting through it, all peepy eyed like a conventional magnified optic, you will see the FSP as a ghost, but if that is how you are using a red dot, you should just put a magnified optic on. You can believe, you can not believe, I can't help you. If you are using a red dot sight like a conventional magnified optic, you are doing it wrong. If you cannot use one as intended, again I can't help you, but used as designed by people with stereoscopic vision the FSP is no problem. None, period. If you have an Aimpoint or similar, turn it on, adjust the brightness (if it's not already on like it should be), then close the front cap, and shoot. Leave the front cap closed and continue to shoot until you dont notice that the front cap is closed. Now you are using it as intended. Again, if you are peeping through an Aimpoint or similar optic with one eye closed, you are using it wrong. I'm genuinely confused as to what the problem people have with that configuration. All my Aimpoints are Absolute Co-Witness, and you shoot them both eyes open, the FSB blurs out completely |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 9:50:06 PM EDT
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Tragically he won't be able to train with that rifle at Valor Ridge. 
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Posted: 10/7/2018 9:53:03 PM EDT
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Wait...what did I miss? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tragically he won't be able to train with that rifle at Valor Ridge. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 9:53:46 PM EDT
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I still want a pic looking through the Aimpoint. It looks like the FSP or FSB would block the dot with the mount he has. The dot is projected onto a piece of glass that is between the shooter's eyeball and the front sight. Co-witness, bro... |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 10:02:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NVM, found it. That's half stupid sir! Feel free to PM me what you found? Was just curious about some drama :D |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 10:15:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: It's an Arms #22 M68 Aimpoint mount, it was hot shit before hot shit knew what it was. You can believe, you can not believe, I can't help you. If you are using a red dot sight like a conventional magnified optic, you are doing it wrong. If you cannot use one as intended, again I can't help you, but used as designed by people with stereoscopic vision the FSP is no problem. None, period. If you have an Aimpoint or similar, turn it on, adjust the brightness (if it's not already on like it should be), then close the front cap, and shoot. Leave the front cap closed and continue to shoot until you dont notice that the front cap is closed. Now you are using it as intended. Again, if you are peeping through an Aimpoint or similar optic with one eye closed, you are using it wrong. Quoted: This. I'm genuinely confused as to what the problem people have with that configuration. All my Aimpoints are Absolute Co-Witness, and you shoot them both eyes open, the FSB blurs out completely Quoted:
Que? The dot is projected onto a piece of glass that is between the shooter's eyeball and the front sight. Co-witness, bro... I have no doubt that you can, with training, learn to use an obstructed sight but the question is why would you want to? Two eyes open with an unobstructed sight (absolute or lower 3rd) is going to be faster every time while giving a superior filed of view. |
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Posted: 10/7/2018 10:20:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have no idea WTF valor ridge is, but was curious as not being able to train somewhere because of your rifle config sounds stupid as fuck. Feel free to PM me what you found? Was just curious about some drama :D |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:46:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nebraska police code for “situation secure” Founder of company from Nebraska |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 7:09:11 AM EDT
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If he had the spacer that you are supposed to use with a #22M68 (when not mounted on a S.I.R.), then he would have the optic at the proper height for absolute or lower 3rd and we would not be having this discussion. The sight is lower than that due to the lack of spacer and that just seems odd as fuck. The spacer is ten bucks so cost is not a factor and a lens cover would be more useful for providing an occluded sight if that is actually what he prefers. I have no doubt that you can, with training, learn to use an obstructed sight but the question is why would you want to? Two eyes open with an unobstructed sight (absolute or lower 3rd) is going to be faster every time while giving a superior filed of view. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It's an Arms #22 M68 Aimpoint mount, it was hot shit before hot shit knew what it was. You can believe, you can not believe, I can't help you. If you are using a red dot sight like a conventional magnified optic, you are doing it wrong. If you cannot use one as intended, again I can't help you, but used as designed by people with stereoscopic vision the FSP is no problem. None, period. If you have an Aimpoint or similar, turn it on, adjust the brightness (if it's not already on like it should be), then close the front cap, and shoot. Leave the front cap closed and continue to shoot until you dont notice that the front cap is closed. Now you are using it as intended. Again, if you are peeping through an Aimpoint or similar optic with one eye closed, you are using it wrong. Quoted: This. I'm genuinely confused as to what the problem people have with that configuration. All my Aimpoints are Absolute Co-Witness, and you shoot them both eyes open, the FSB blurs out completely Quoted:
Que? The dot is projected onto a piece of glass that is between the shooter's eyeball and the front sight. Co-witness, bro... I have no doubt that you can, with training, learn to use an obstructed sight but the question is why would you want to? Two eyes open with an unobstructed sight (absolute or lower 3rd) is going to be faster every time while giving a superior filed of view. The fucking Aimpoint is between YOU and the FRONT sight. The FSB doesn't BLOCK anything. Lower 1/3 obtained using a spacer is NOT absolute, which remarkably is obtained WITHOUT the fucking spacer. Damn dude, I don't know what else I can tell you, it works forget it, don't worry about it, damn. If you believe that you have some superior insight on how his gun should be set up for him, based on your observations of pictures on ARFCOM, the overwhelming majority of which rarely make it out of the apartment, then you should make an effort to contact him and correct him. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 7:34:44 AM EDT
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I hit your inbox. I definitely get the reload ban, but the rest is kind of dumb. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I have no idea WTF valor ridge is, but was curious as not being able to train somewhere because of your rifle config sounds stupid as fuck. Feel free to PM me what you found? Was just curious about some drama :D |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 8:08:03 AM EDT
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Can someone explain it to me too? I have no idea WTF is going on.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 8:13:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2018 8:20:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jimminy fucking christmas. The fucking Aimpoint is between YOU and the FRONT sight. The FSB doesn't BLOCK anything. Lower 1/3 obtained using a spacer is NOT absolute, which remarkably is obtained WITHOUT the fucking spacer. I have my doubts as to if it is true however because of this link: https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Whatandapos_s_the_Sight__Picture_Height_on_the_Aimpoint_ML3_with_Aimpoint__22M68_Mount_and_Spacer/18-442742/ |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 8:23:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If this is true, it was the only thing you needed to post. I have my doubts as to if it is true however because of this link: https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Whatandapos_s_the_Sight__Picture_Height_on_the_Aimpoint_ML3_with_Aimpoint__22M68_Mount_and_Spacer/18-442742/ 
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Posted: 10/8/2018 8:37:54 AM EDT
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Jimminy fucking christmas. The fucking Aimpoint is between YOU and the FRONT sight. The FSB doesn't BLOCK anything. Lower 1/3 obtained using a spacer is NOT absolute, which remarkably is obtained WITHOUT the fucking spacer. Damn dude, I don't know what else I can tell you, it works forget it, don't worry about it, damn. If you believe that you have some superior insight on how his gun should be set up for him, based on your observations of pictures on ARFCOM, the overwhelming majority of which rarely make it out of the apartment, then you should make an effort to contact him and correct him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: It's an Arms #22 M68 Aimpoint mount, it was hot shit before hot shit knew what it was. You can believe, you can not believe, I can't help you. If you are using a red dot sight like a conventional magnified optic, you are doing it wrong. If you cannot use one as intended, again I can't help you, but used as designed by people with stereoscopic vision the FSP is no problem. None, period. If you have an Aimpoint or similar, turn it on, adjust the brightness (if it's not already on like it should be), then close the front cap, and shoot. Leave the front cap closed and continue to shoot until you dont notice that the front cap is closed. Now you are using it as intended. Again, if you are peeping through an Aimpoint or similar optic with one eye closed, you are using it wrong. Quoted: This. I'm genuinely confused as to what the problem people have with that configuration. All my Aimpoints are Absolute Co-Witness, and you shoot them both eyes open, the FSB blurs out completely Quoted:
Que? The dot is projected onto a piece of glass that is between the shooter's eyeball and the front sight. Co-witness, bro... I have no doubt that you can, with training, learn to use an obstructed sight but the question is why would you want to? Two eyes open with an unobstructed sight (absolute or lower 3rd) is going to be faster every time while giving a superior filed of view. The fucking Aimpoint is between YOU and the FRONT sight. The FSB doesn't BLOCK anything. Lower 1/3 obtained using a spacer is NOT absolute, which remarkably is obtained WITHOUT the fucking spacer. Damn dude, I don't know what else I can tell you, it works forget it, don't worry about it, damn. If you believe that you have some superior insight on how his gun should be set up for him, based on your observations of pictures on ARFCOM, the overwhelming majority of which rarely make it out of the apartment, then you should make an effort to contact him and correct him. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 8:45:55 AM EDT
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From the FAQ section on their site: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/271537/D3E60427-9FE4-4B67-9B74-01EF3024080F-698007.JPG Also didn't Noveske start out with uppers only, then transition to full rifles? |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 9:07:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think he thinks it's a low mount and not absolute cowitness. It doesn't look like one but the angle of the video might be the issue. That is why my first post interview thread was about wanting to see a picture through the Aimpoint. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 9:09:59 AM EDT
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I still want a pic looking through the Aimpoint. It looks like the FSP or FSB would block the dot with the mount he has. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 9:24:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is exactly what I think. If it is an absolute cowitness mount that is a kosher setup. It doesn't look like one but the angle of the video might be the issue. That is why my first post interview thread was about wanting to see a picture through the Aimpoint. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Not too familiar with ARMS mounts. I think it's an absolute cowitness with one of the spacers. Link with spacer options: https://www.mountsplus.com/arms-22m68-aimpoint-comp-throw-lever-scope-ring.html Unless I'm interpreting this way wrong, a poster in here is arguing it doesn't matter because you're using BAC anyway. I argue that's potatoes because he hasn't considered the effects of getting some cum in your eye in the heat of battle. I could see the argument for absolute or 1/3 cowitness, but an overlap is just silly sauce with no benefit. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 9:31:49 AM EDT
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This is exactly what I think. If it is an absolute cowitness mount that is a kosher setup. It doesn't look like one but the angle of the video might be the issue. That is why my first post interview thread was about wanting to see a picture through the Aimpoint. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I think he thinks it's a low mount and not absolute cowitness. It doesn't look like one but the angle of the video might be the issue. That is why my first post interview thread was about wanting to see a picture through the Aimpoint. Edit: Look at the height of the rear ocular lens in proportion to the rear sight. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 10:02:16 AM EDT
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Wait...what did I miss? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tragically he won't be able to train with that rifle at Valor Ridge. I agree with them, I just got thru at an AR class that ran late partially due to people's home builds being POS's... |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 10:27:55 AM EDT
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The red dot is mounted low as fuck. I think it's funny people are saying that's normal. It's not that you couldn't use it, but why wouldn't you just do absolute co-witness?
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Posted: 10/8/2018 12:09:41 PM EDT
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But I've been led to believe you will die instantly without a KAC or similar |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:31:09 PM EDT
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He was dead the whole time
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But I've been led to believe you will die instantly without a KAC or similar
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:48:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's an Arms #22 M68 Aimpoint mount, it was hot shit before hot shit knew what it was. You can believe, you can not believe, I can't help you. If you are using a red dot sight like a conventional magnified optic, you are doing it wrong. If you cannot use one as intended, again I can't help you, but used as designed by people with stereoscopic vision the FSP is no problem. None, period. If you have an Aimpoint or similar, turn it on, adjust the brightness (if it's not already on like it should be), then close the front cap, and shoot. Leave the front cap closed and continue to shoot until you dont notice that the front cap is closed. Now you are using it as intended. Again, if you are peeping through an Aimpoint or similar optic with one eye closed, you are using it wrong. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 1:53:55 PM EDT
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Can someone explain it to me too? I have no idea WTF is going on. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/271537/D3E60427-9FE4-4B67-9B74-01EF3024080F-698007.JPG
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:00:30 PM EDT
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Beater Bushy during Irma cleanup . . .
Windham built, bought right after the end of AWB. Originally a 16" A2 Patrolman Carbine, now 14.5" w/p&w flash hider. Magpul MOE forend, vertical foregrip, pistol grip, and trigger guard. Magpul CTR stock with the enhanced butt pad on a Larue buffer tube, Hippykicker SLAP. Larue MBT trigger. IWC flashlight mount. You can't see the mount in this pic but you can see the lettering on the endcap of the light. And a red, white, and blue index clip because 'Merica! |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 2:29:33 PM EDT
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FFS why don't all y'all e-mail him and tell him he's doing it wrong.
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Posted: 10/8/2018 6:22:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2018 6:32:20 PM EDT
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Back when Bushmaster meant something. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 6:47:08 PM EDT
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But I've been led to believe you will die instantly without a KAC or similar |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 6:47:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I'll take my business elsewhere before training someplace that prohibits my trusty old LMT carbine with an aftermarket Geissele SSA. By their FAQ, a box-stock rifle with craptacular but OEM parts is more acceptable. I replaced the stock LMT trigger after the first day of a 3-day Costa carbine class and had comments from Chris and several students about the dramatic improvement in my shooting on day 2. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 6:48:25 PM EDT
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FFS why don't all y'all e-mail him and tell him he's doing it wrong.
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Posted: 10/8/2018 6:49:01 PM EDT
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You’re probably already dead and don’t even know it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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But I've been led to believe you will die instantly without a KAC or similar |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 7:04:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some people PMS'ing over Valor Ridges policy of no home builds of weapons at their classes. I agree with them, I just got thru at an AR class that ran late partially due to people's home builds being POS's...
If their rifle isn't working, guess they just wasted the cost of the class. Hope they have a back-up, and I hope it's factory, cause it's been blessed by magic no-jam juice. |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 9:20:37 PM EDT
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Is that why I can’t leave GD? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 10/8/2018 10:43:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/8/2018 10:49:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some people PMS'ing over Valor Ridges policy of no home builds of weapons at their classes. I agree with them, I just got thru at an AR class that ran late partially due to people's home builds being POS's... |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 10:52:50 PM EDT
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From the FAQ section on their site: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/271537/D3E60427-9FE4-4B67-9B74-01EF3024080F-698007.JPG |
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Posted: 10/8/2018 11:13:44 PM EDT
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From the FAQ section on their site: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/271537/D3E60427-9FE4-4B67-9B74-01EF3024080F-698007.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can someone explain it to me too? I have no idea WTF is going on. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/271537/D3E60427-9FE4-4B67-9B74-01EF3024080F-698007.JPG |
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