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Well, I can honestly say that in my 45 years of reloading I have never seen anything like that.....
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Gotta run that powder through a food processor before you try to meter it
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Wouldn't you put a certain amount of sticks in each case? If so it would be easy to measure. Just slow.
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That's cordite.
I have had some held together by a little rubber band and some by a string. I could picture little girls in a factory tying the little bundle up. Great back in the days when reloading wasn't a thought. |
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And now I have one more piece of trivia in my bank for just that special moment! Now I know what cordite is
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I've heard of cordite before, no idea that's what it looked like.
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Standard chordite... It would have been surprising if it was anything else.
Shoot it on a calm day and you can see ash floating around. |
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I had a feeling it was cordite but I'm glad someone else said it, cause I haven't ever seen cordite before. Neat. Thanks for sharing OP
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How'd it smell when you burned it?
All of the turn of the century big game hunting books I've read always mention the smell of the cordite when trying to stop a rogue elephant. I'd love to get my hands on some to just play with! |
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Cordite is notoriously not temperature stable, one of the reasons cartridge designers of the era had to take into account with rifles that were going to Africa And India.
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I read that the many cartridges were charged with Cordite prior to necking the case. Easier to load it into straight wall.
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Yeah, that shit is NOT gonna make it through my RCBS Uniflow.
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I have a bunch of those rounds from when I still had a SMLE, and pulled several down that didn't go off. I have an old 1lb jug with a bunch in it and trying to come up with a game plan for it other than blowing it up of course.
Pretty cool stuff and amazing how far we've come! |
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I'm impressed that I knew exactly what this was going to be about as soon as he said it had a wad in the case.
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Since it's mass produced, I would assume it was loaded on an assembly line by people who didn't measure individual powder charges per cartridge. In that case, I think it'd be a hell of a lot easier to load than regular powder because you could drop the correct amount of sticks in. Assuming all sticks were the same dimensions and weight, one could probably lay them out on a sheet that had dividers in it that would separate them into the correct amounts, then perhaps have this sheet drop about 50 or so bundles into cases that were on a line ready to be loaded.
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If you get a weak round you can watch that plug land about 15 feet down range as well.
It took me a while to figure that one out. |
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I watched a documentary about the Galipoli landings a few years back. A team of Archaeologists went there to dig up whatever. They found sticks of cordite in the water that had crap growing on it. They offered an explanation as to why sticks of cordite were in the water, but I do not remember what it was. In any event, the cordite displayed was the diameter of a #2 pencil and about 12 inches long. One of the team members wondered aloud if it would burn. The man holding it pulled out a zippo type light and held the flame to the end. Sure enough, it caught fire and burned in a manner similar to 4th of July sparklers.
Yeah, I know: CSB |
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I watched a documentary about the Galipoli landings a few years back. A team of Archaeologists went there to dig up whatever. They found sticks of cordite in the water that had crap growing on it. They offered an explanation as to why sticks of cordite were in the water, but I do not remember what it was. In any event, the cordite displayed was the diameter of a #2 pencil and about 12 inches long. One of the team members wondered aloud if it would burn. The man holding it pulled out a zippo type light and held the flame to the end. Sure enough, it caught fire and burned in a manner similar to 4th of July sparklers. Yeah, I know: CSB View Quote Attached File |
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Cool OP, thanks. I'm a youngin and have only been reloading for a couple of years...never seen anything like that.
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Shirly you're not serious that you've never heard of cordite.
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Well that's the first I ever seen. But I have read about it.
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Really, you never heard of cordite? That's what they loaded .303 with.
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Cordite the British used to love the stuff, they even used it for naval canons.
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How'd it smell when you burned it? View Quote Honestly, I don't remember a specific smell...I do recall it seemed to burn somewhat clean. Since it's mass produced, I would assume it was loaded on an assembly line by people who didn't measure individual powder charges per cartridge. In that case, I think it'd be a hell of a lot easier to load than regular powder because you could drop the correct amount of sticks in. View Quote These were loaded in there pretty tight, didn't look like they were exactly dropped in. |
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I still would like to see the process for loading cases with this stuff...
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God I love the smell of cordite. Back in the day I shot thousands of rounds of it in various calibers.
It is a little hard on throat erosion though. |
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I can't remember exactly where I read it, but I believe it was Warren Page that had a story about New Zealanders being awfully mad trying to cram sticks of cordite in their .22-303s. Every time I think about that it makes me chuckle.
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That stuff is a funky extruded mixture of nitrocellulose, nitroglycerine and petroleum jelly. Not all that far off from some double base pistol powders. With the notable addition of Vaseline and a noodle like shape instead of small flakes. The low coefficient of surface area, relative to flakes, balls or stars, really slows down the burn rate. It does have a distinctive smell.
I miss cheep 303 British surplus |
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I think I read somewhere that they put the cordite in first, then finished shaping the case with the bottleneck after. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I still haven't had a chance to shoot any, kind of excited to get it to the range....from what I've read, should be a lot like shooting a muzzleloader!
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I think I read somewhere that they put the cordite in first, then finished shaping the case with the bottleneck after. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I still haven't had a chance to shoot any, kind of excited to get it to the range....from what I've read, should be a lot like shooting a muzzleloader! View Quote |
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Cool. I've never seen it in person.
I could give a rat's ass about metering though. Highly overrated. |
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