Outdoor TV / Deck Question

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Posted: 8/23/2017 8:05:49 PM EDT

I want to mount a TV on the back of our house / deck area.

Our house has that hard composite type siding.

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I don't mind if I have to remove the TV when we aren't out watching it.

Would prefer to build some kind of weatherproof box for it, but removing is not an issue. These new TVs only weigh 20-25 lbs.

Wanted to put up a WIFI TV like this so I can connect it to my PS Vue live streaming.

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Anyone have any ideas how I can mount it properly without having to remove the siding?

Thanks in advance.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:07:15 PM EDT

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Can't help on mounting, but don't waste money on "Outdoor TVs".

Have had two consumer grade LG's on the porch going on 4 years in all kinds of weather with no issue.

Originally bought covers for them but haven't used them once.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:09:38 PM EDT

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Hey do your thing man but why would anyone want a tv outside? Just enjoy being .... outside.

ETA ... just like with hanging something on the inside use the studs and use long enough screws to go through siding and still sink into wood enough

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:10:37 PM EDT

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Can't help on mounting, but don't waste money on "Outdoor TVs".

Have had two consumer grade LG's on the porch going on 4 years in all kinds of weather with no issue.

Originally bought covers for them but haven't used them once.

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Yeah I won't. Don't mind taking care of a cheapo TV that has good reviews and even bringing it in as needed for storage when not in use.

Was even considering getting a portable stand, but it would be nice if I could mount it a bit higher so more can see it.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:12:06 PM EDT

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Hey do your thing man but why would anyone want a tv outside? Just enjoy being .... outside.

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We have a really small house, but a nice large deck. It's our entertaining space. I want to be able to have some football parties with my buddies. We are die hard football fans. I know that's not everyone's thing, but that's my reason.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:13:35 PM EDT

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Hey do your thing man but why would anyone want a tv outside? Just enjoy being .... outside.

ETA ... just like with hanging something on the inside use the studs and use long enough screws to go through siding and still sink into wood enough

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Will a normal stud finder work - through the composite siding? Sorry I am kind of new to these things, but am willing to learn.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:14:21 PM EDT

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Make sure the vivid (or whatever your selected brand calls it) is bright enough. LED TVs don't seem to be as bright as older florescent models. My Sony Bravia circa 2006 can drive you out of a room.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:14:39 PM EDT

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We have a really small house, but a nice large deck. It's our entertaining space. I want to be able to have some football parties with my buddies. We are die hard football fans. I know that's not everyone's thing, but that's my reason.

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Hey do your thing man but why would anyone want a tv outside? Just enjoy being .... outside.

We have a really small house, but a nice large deck. It's our entertaining space. I want to be able to have some football parties with my buddies. We are die hard football fans. I know that's not everyone's thing, but that's my reason.

Fair enough .... I do enjoy going to by buddies house in the fall once it gets cold to watch WVU games in his big barn/shop building. He opens the big garage door to let the cold in .... kinda adds to the experience.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:15:30 PM EDT

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Will a normal stud finder work - through the composite siding? Sorry I am kind of new to these things, but am willing to learn.

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Hey do your thing man but why would anyone want a tv outside? Just enjoy being .... outside.

ETA ... just like with hanging something on the inside use the studs and use long enough screws to go through siding and still sink into wood enough

Will a normal stud finder work - through the composite siding? Sorry I am kind of new to these things, but am willing to learn.

I'd find the stud in the inside first, would be easier.

ETA... one trick is to find a wall outlet because they are always mounted to a stud. So that will make finding the first stud easy. Then the standard in an exterior wall will either be 12" on center or 16" if not load bearing

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:16:24 PM EDT

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Can't help on mounting, but don't waste money on "Outdoor TVs".

Have had two consumer grade LG's on the porch going on 4 years in all kinds of weather with no issue.

Originally bought covers for them but haven't used them once.

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Yep, my parents have had a visio outside for a few years now with no issues.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:18:58 PM EDT

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Fair enough .... I do enjoy going to by buddies house in the fall once it gets cold to watch WVU games in his big barn/shop building. He opens the big garage door to let the cold in .... kinda adds to the experience.

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That sounds awesome. We live in the city, our house was so small we don't even have a garage, but we've got a deck (which I need to work on / another thread). Our house is like 1100 sq feet. Sounds crazy small but somehow it's 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. The kitchen living room, and dinette is tiny. Bedrooms are okay sized. I bought it when I was making less than $50k/year. We moved into a Up and coming neighborhood. Next door neighbor just bought their house for 80% more than what we paid.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:20:27 PM EDT

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You should be able to mount it on that wall the way you would mount a tv with a bracket to any other wall. Hit the studs as previously mentioned and you should be good to go.

I have a Sony LED TV that I leave outside in a "3 Seasons Room" - unheated enclosed porch year round. The only thing I do in the winter is unplug the power. My concern is that warm moist air could hit a cold TV and condense on the electronics causing a short / problem. I'm getting ready to mount a TV outside in Florida and the concern down there among my friends is too much heat. Go figure......

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:23:41 PM EDT

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I'd find the stud in the inside first, would be easier.

ETA... one trick is to find a wall outlet because they are always mounted to a stud. So that will make finding the first stud easy. Then the standard in an exterior wall will either be 12" on center or 16" if not load bearing

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I had this installed outside on our deck. Our electrical panel is also on exterior wall near where I want to mount. This is located in same area, but closer to floor of deck.

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I get what you're saying though. The interior outlets are far from where I want to mount. How else can I find the studs from the exterior? Or should I find them from the interior?

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:37:04 PM EDT

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I had this installed outside on our deck. Our electrical panel is also on exterior wall near where I want to mount. This is located in same area, but closer to floor of deck.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_1032-288551.JPG

I get what you're saying though. The interior outlets are far from where I want to mount. How else can I find the studs from the exterior? Or should I find them from the interior?

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I'd find the stud in the inside first, would be easier.

ETA... one trick is to find a wall outlet because they are always mounted to a stud. So that will make finding the first stud easy. Then the standard in an exterior wall will either be 12" on center or 16" if not load bearing

I had this installed outside on our deck. Our electrical panel is also on exterior wall near where I want to mount. This is located in same area, but closer to floor of deck.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_1032-288551.JPG

I get what you're saying though. The interior outlets are far from where I want to mount. How else can I find the studs from the exterior? Or should I find them from the interior?

Ehhh that outlet very well might NOT be mounted to a stud from the looks of it.

You could also work off windows, same idea. Or an exterior door will have what's called (at least around here) a king stud on both sides of it that you can find easy and measure off of.

I've never tried a stud finder on the outside of a house.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:41:12 PM EDT

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Honestly, as light as that tv is, you could probably get away with just screwing the mount to the siding (if using a flat mount).

That location doesn't look out of the weather enough to leave a tv out there uncovered in the elements. I have ~30" eaves on my house and had a Sony TV tucked up under there for about 8 years. Still worked when we took it down too. What we did is got a vinyl cover for it and would cover it up whenever it wasn't in use.

Also: The TCL tvs are a great bang for the buck. Dirty secret, they are basically LG tvs. I have a 46" TCL in my office and am very happy with it.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:56:21 PM EDT

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Do any of y'all have anything like this?

Or recommend this?

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Posted: 8/23/2017 8:56:53 PM EDT

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I had this installed outside on our deck. Our electrical panel is also on exterior wall near where I want to mount. This is located in same area, but closer to floor of deck.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_1032-288551.JPG

I get what you're saying though. The interior outlets are far from where I want to mount. How else can I find the studs from the exterior? Or should I find them from the interior?

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Take a putty knife and slide up under the edge of the siding and feel for the nails, or just lift a piece of siding far enough to shine a light under it to see nail/hole.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:59:07 PM EDT

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The enclosures seem like overkill if you have overhead and sufficient protection from the sides.

Posted: 8/23/2017 9:00:34 PM EDT

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I hung that same TV out on our new deck

I built a totally enclosed box and just set it up using two step ladders with a 2x4 between to see how high I wanted it. The wall it is mounted on goes into our garage (unfinished) so it was easy to hang. Once I had it at the height I wanted it I just drilled four holes using a long frill bit and hung it with bolts.

Posted: 8/23/2017 9:01:20 PM EDT

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Smart TV's are real handy...for the company using them to spy on you.

You pay extra to supply them with all your information.

Posted: 8/23/2017 9:01:47 PM EDT

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Ehhh that outlet very well might NOT be mounted to a stud from the looks of it.

You could also work off windows, same idea. Or an exterior door will have what's called (at least around here) a king stud on both sides of it that you can find easy and measure off of.

I've never tried a stud finder on the outside of a house.

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It's not. That's just where I pointed for the electrician to put it.

Yeah I need to check and see how deep a stud finder can go..

Posted: 8/23/2017 9:11:22 PM EDT

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Take a putty knife and slide up under the edge of the siding and feel for the nails, or just lift a piece of siding far enough to shine a light under it to see nail/hole.

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They painted over so it's hard to access

Posted: 8/23/2017 9:12:24 PM EDT

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Smart TV's are real handy...for the company using them to spy on you.

You pay extra to supply them with all your information.

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Well they can monitor if I've mowed my yard or not I guess..

Posted: 8/23/2017 9:16:01 PM EDT

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Honestly, as light as that tv is, you could probably get away with just screwing the mount to the siding (if using a flat mount).

That location doesn't look out of the weather enough to leave a tv out there uncovered in the elements. I have ~30" eaves on my house and had a Sony TV tucked up under there for about 8 years. Still worked when we took it down too. What we did is got a vinyl cover for it and would cover it up whenever it wasn't in use.

Also: The TCL tvs are a great bang for the buck. Dirty secret, they are basically LG tvs. I have a 46" TCL in my office and am very happy with it.

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Thanks! That's what I was hoping for..

And thanks for the info on the TCL TVs. Thinking about pulling the trigger on it tonight.

Would you rather have the "$400" or "$399" model @atomic_ferret?

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Never mind they are the same LMAO. I've been drinking...

Posted: 8/23/2017 9:16:02 PM EDT

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Hey do your thing man but why would anyone want a tv outside? Just enjoy being .... outside.

ETA ... just like with hanging something on the inside use the studs and use long enough screws to go through siding and still sink into wood enough

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I do and so do a lot of my neighbors and friends.
We like sitting outside BBQing and watching football.
Plus all the music stations on TVs now I can play music thru it.
My back porch is like a living room with furniture etc

Posted: 8/23/2017 9:18:50 PM EDT

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Do any of y'all have anything like this?

Or recommend this?

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I have mine in a cabinet
I'll go take a pic and post it if it comes out since it's dark outside right now

Posted: 8/23/2017 9:21:01 PM EDT

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I have mine in a cabinet
I'll go take a pic and post it if it comes out since it's dark outside right now

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Thanks! @nailcrusher

Posted: 8/23/2017 9:23:47 PM EDT

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Buy a ceiling bracket and hang the tv from the awning. They're about $30 on ebay.

Posted: 8/23/2017 9:30:23 PM EDT

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Posted: 8/23/2017 9:37:44 PM EDT

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You don't need studs for that. If that's hardie or similar it should be nailed to osb. Run the lag bolts in and it will be fine. You're not talking much weight.

Posted: 8/23/2017 10:10:20 PM EDT

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You don't need studs for that. If that's hardie or similar it should be nailed to osb. Run the lag bolts in and it will be fine. You're not talking much weight.

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@jwb211 osb? Sorry, what is the osb?

Posted: 8/23/2017 10:15:51 PM EDT

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That's awesome @nailcrusher ! How did you mount it?

Posted: 8/23/2017 10:24:57 PM EDT

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I'd find the stud in the inside first, would be easier.

ETA... one trick is to find a wall outlet because they are always mounted to a stud. So that will make finding the first stud easy. Then the standard in an exterior wall will either be 12" on center or 16" if not load bearing

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12" spacing would make for a great wall, I've never seen one. Did you mean 16" and 24"?

Posted: 8/23/2017 10:33:59 PM EDT

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That's awesome @nailcrusher ! How did you mount it?

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I have OSB under that siding so I was able to screw the cabinet thru the siding into the OSB with 3" deck screws.
The TV is sitting on the shelf inside the cabinet on the stand that came with the TV.
I drilled some holes in the legs of the TV stand and ran a couple short screws into the cabinet shelf just to keep someone from picking it up and walking off with it easily. At least now they would have to spend a few minutes taking out the 2 screws if they want to steal it.

Posted: 8/23/2017 10:40:41 PM EDT

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OSB = oriented strand board
It's what's used in lieu of plywood now in construction

Posted: 8/23/2017 10:48:32 PM EDT

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Thanks. @nailcrusher. Is there an easy way of finding out if you have OSB without removing exterior boards?

Posted: 8/23/2017 10:50:33 PM EDT

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Smart TV's are real handy...for the company using them to spy on you.

You pay extra to supply them with all your information.

Well they can monitor if I've mowed my yard or not I guess..

You get frisky with the wife unit on the deck just once and BAM, some guy in China just made a porno.

Posted: 8/23/2017 10:59:39 PM EDT

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Thanks. @nailcrusher. Is there an easy way of finding out if you have OSB without removing exterior boards?

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OSB = oriented strand board
It's what's used in lieu of plywood now in construction

Thanks. @nailcrusher. Is there an easy way of finding out if you have OSB without removing exterior boards?

Not without removing something.
It looks like you have enough wall space though that you should be able to move your tv bracket or cabinet to a spot and hit a stud for mounting purposes.

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:03:47 PM EDT

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Thanks! That's what I was hoping for..

And thanks for the info on the TCL TVs. Thinking about pulling the trigger on it tonight.

Would you rather have the "$400" or "$399" model @atomic_ferret?

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_1035-288629.JPG

Never mind they are the same LMAO. I've been drinking...

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Honestly, as light as that tv is, you could probably get away with just screwing the mount to the siding (if using a flat mount).

That location doesn't look out of the weather enough to leave a tv out there uncovered in the elements. I have ~30" eaves on my house and had a Sony TV tucked up under there for about 8 years. Still worked when we took it down too. What we did is got a vinyl cover for it and would cover it up whenever it wasn't in use.

Also: The TCL tvs are a great bang for the buck. Dirty secret, they are basically LG tvs. I have a 46" TCL in my office and am very happy with it.

Thanks! That's what I was hoping for..

And thanks for the info on the TCL TVs. Thinking about pulling the trigger on it tonight.

Would you rather have the "$400" or "$399" model @atomic_ferret?

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/327183/IMG_1035-288629.JPG

Never mind they are the same LMAO. I've been drinking...

I would get the $399.97 one for sure.

As far as outdoor enclosures, most of the ones I have dealt with have been custom made. Some were awesome, some suck.

I use these guys for outdoor tv covers. They make a very nice product.

http://www.customcoolcovers.com

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:03:55 PM EDT

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Not without removing something.
It looks like you have enough wall space though that you should be able to move your tv bracket or cabinet to a spot and hit a stud for mounting purposes.

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@nailcrusher

This is the stud finder I have. Should be okay for finding studs?

Of course my 9v is dead and I don't have anymore. Ordering now...

Would this device work?

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https://www.craftsman.com/products/craftsman-wall-scanner-with-ac-wirewarning

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:14:13 PM EDT

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You don't need studs for that. If that's hardie or similar it should be nailed to osb. Run the lag bolts in and it will be fine. You're not talking much weight.

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This. My hardy plank is backed by half inch osb. Just put som.e big screws in and shod be fine.

However. If it's track built home, it may just have some blue foam board.

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:19:40 PM EDT

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Thanks. @nailcrusher. Is there an easy way of finding out if you have OSB without removing exterior boards?

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OSB = oriented strand board
It's what's used in lieu of plywood now in construction

Thanks. @nailcrusher. Is there an easy way of finding out if you have OSB without removing exterior boards?

If it's a track home then it's probably not anything g but foam board. Do you have any unfinished space like a garage

wall or attic space with exterior wall that you can see the inside of? If you see wood then I would think the whole exterior would be sheathed with it. But YMMV.

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:24:09 PM EDT

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https://www.thisoldhouse.com/how-to/how-to-install-outdoor-television

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:25:09 PM EDT

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If it's a track home then it's probably not anything g but foam board. Do you have any unfinished space like a garage

wall or attic space with exterior wall that you can see the inside of? If you see wood then I would think the whole exterior would be sheathed with it. But YMMV.

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Great info. Thank you.

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:26:10 PM EDT

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And I purchased this one just now:

The $399 TV from Amazon

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