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Posted: 8/23/2017 3:48:24 PM EDT
Trying to decide on Ruger or Savage. Mainly deer hunting. No 30.06 or. 270.School me on all the other calibers. Any input will be appreciated.
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The only thing funnier than 6.5 CREEDMOOR fanboys are the ones that do not know how to spell CREEDMOOR.
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Since I hunt both deer and elk I use a Ruger M77 MKll 7 Rem Mag.
But if I were to only hunt deer I absolutely would use my new favorite medium game cartridge which is the 6.5 Creedmoor. My Ruger Precision Rifle in 6.5 CM is too heavy too carry in the field so I would need to get another 'field' rifle in that cartridge so I'll just stick with my 7 Rem Mag. |
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Are we talking white tails or muledeer?
Ranges at which you usually shoot at? |
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It's a fantastic cartridge, which is gaining popularity very quickly. What's your problem with people who like it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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A humble suggestion.... take a hard look at the Thompson/Center Compass, in 6.5CM. It's a whole lotta rifle for the coin. 5R threaded barrel, comes with scope mounts, and right now there is a $75 rebate. Mine was right around $220, shipped.
Trigger and bolt smoothness is not the greatest, but it shoots groups so tight I'm afraid y'all might call me a liar if I post numbers. And for about two Benjamins it's almost disposable. I took mine deer hunting last weekend. Didn't see any, but that's not the rifle's fault |
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I wanted a new deer rifle last year, so bought one of these in .308
Lightweight, detachable box mag, stainless, guaranteed 1MOA or better accuracy. It's really a pretty nice rifle. I went with .308 because its a very flexible round, lots of different loads, works for nearly all game types in this country, and you can find ammo for it anywhere...I've seen it in gas stations and hardware stores! WEll, that and i own lots of other 308 rifles so might as well be consistent. ETA: Edited to reflect the link to the right rifle... |
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I took many deer and elk with a .270. It's a fine cartridge for most anything you're likely to hunt, but may be a little light for moose. I also used a 7mm STW to great effect many years ago and found it a very flat shooting rifle, capable of taking down anything in North America at impressive distances. I know guys who swear by 308, 7mm-08, 7mm mag, 30-30 and 45-70. Even met an old guy once who was hunting mule deer with an 375 H&H. There are a ton of good choices. People have been hunting effectively for thousands of years without the new cool caliber that is suddenly popular.
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Will kill everything from Alligators to Zebra. Took out a lot of Nat-zi's to. |
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It's a fantastic cartridge, which is gaining popularity very quickly. What's your problem with people who like it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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The old. 243 Winchester is a tried and true deer round.
So is the. 308. And both will be available wherever you find ammo. |
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Not sure what a now rifle is. but cant go wrong with .223/.308/6.5creedmore/ in rifles.
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If i was in the market for one,i would give the Savage Mod.11 Hog Hunter a look.
Comes with a great set of iron sights,rare these days. [.308] |
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Why no .270?
For "mainly deer hunting", it's about the best you're gonna do. |
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For well over a century, the answer to "what is the best medium game cartridge in a handy, light-recoiling rifle?" has been simple: 7x57 Mauser (.275 Rigby, if you're a Brit.). Full marks also go to its Viking cousin, the 6.5x55 Swede. They are much of a muchness.
Both are accurate, efficient, economical cartridges that can handle bullets of .300+ sectional density, which makes them astoundingly reliable killers, especially when paired with Nosler Partitions. If there was a 160gr 6.5mm Partition, it would be impossible to choose between the 2; since there is not, a very slight edge goes to the 7x57. All of these "new" cartridges are merely variably decent copies of what has gone before: utterly unnecessary, superfluous exercises in marketing and vanity. |
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There is nothing wrong with it. But there are other calibers that are very capable. The answer to every rifle question isn't 6.5 creedmoor simply because it's the new "in" thing. View Quote To further complicate it, I've replaced two of my .225 barrels on my ARs with 6.5G barrels, making 3 total Grendel rifles now. |
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For well over a century, the answer to "what is the best medium game cartridge in a handy, light-recoiling rifle?" has been simple: 7x57 Mauser (.275 Rigby, if you're a Brit.). Full marks also go to its Viking cousin, the 6.5x55 Swede. They are much of a muchness. Both are accurate, efficient, economical cartridges that can handle bullets of .300+ sectional density, which makes them astoundingly reliable killers, especially when paired with Nosler Partitions. If there was a 160gr 6.5mm Partition, it would be impossible to choose between the 2; since there is not, a very slight edge goes to the 7x57. All of these "new" cartridges are merely variably decent copies of what has gone before: utterly unnecessary, superfluous exercises in marketing and vanity. View Quote |
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My Savage 10FP shot 0.50 MOA with BTHP Hornady Match. Rifle felt clunky, action sucked.
Dad's 77 Mk2 (discontinued) shot 1 MOA with whatever decent hunting load he was using. Rifle felt GOOD. Ergonomics were great, trigger was just OK (Hawkeye has fixed this apparently) l, and the action was great. I dislike Savages extractor style. Out of those two, I would get the Ruger Hawkeye (Not the American) But I went with a Tikka T3 personally, and in the Savage price range, (Cheaper Remy 748?, Winchesters XP or whatever) Tikka made more sense for me |
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Probably no farther than 250 yards. And tell me why savage over Ruger. Bolt or semi auto? Recoil on 308? Will need scope due to age.
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I have an American in 308 and it does what I ask of it. I'm sure the Savage would as well. I bought the American because my dealer got stiffed on an order and wanted to get rid of it cheap. Any caliber between 243 and 308 will be fine for whitetail. For mule deer I'd maybe go up a notch.
The bolt action hunting rifle is one thing just about all the makers have figured out. Not sure there's a bad one out there. |
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I would definitely pick Savage over Ruger. I believe Savage presents a lower chance of getting a rifle that doesn't shoot well. Savages that don't shoot well out of the box are rare. Savage also offers a wider range of options.
Apparently it's not cool anymore, but I think .308 is still a great choice for medium game at medium ranges. |
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6.5 has a great bullet weight range, and is great for all most animals. The Creedmoor is a nice shooting round with lots of ammo options and excellent ballistics.
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There's your answer! Who needs some fancy new cartridge when the 6.5 Swede has been killing stuff since 1894!
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.300 BLK ... or 6.5 Kredemower...
ETA: Anesthesia from medikal prosedure still wearing off so pleaz inore the statemint abuv... |
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For well over a century, the answer to "what is the best medium game cartridge in a handy, light-recoiling rifle?" has been simple: 7x57 Mauser (.275 Rigby, if you're a Brit.). Full marks also go to its Viking cousin, the 6.5x55 Swede. They are much of a muchness. Both are accurate, efficient, economical cartridges that can handle bullets of .300+ sectional density, which makes them astoundingly reliable killers, especially when paired with Nosler Partitions. If there was a 160gr 6.5mm Partition, it would be impossible to choose between the 2; since there is not, a very slight edge goes to the 7x57. All of these "new" cartridges are merely variably decent copies of what has gone before: utterly unnecessary, superfluous exercises in marketing and vanity. View Quote |
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For well over a century, the answer to "what is the best medium game cartridge in a handy, light-recoiling rifle?" has been simple: 7x57 Mauser (.275 Rigby, if you're a Brit.). Full marks also go to its Viking cousin, the 6.5x55 Swede. They are much of a muchness. Both are accurate, efficient, economical cartridges that can handle bullets of .300+ sectional density, which makes them astoundingly reliable killers, especially when paired with Nosler Partitions. If there was a 160gr 6.5mm Partition, it would be impossible to choose between the 2; since there is not, a very slight edge goes to the 7x57. All of these "new" cartridges are merely variably decent copies of what has gone before: utterly unnecessary, superfluous exercises in marketing and vanity. |
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Savage in .308. Get the Accu-trigger. View Quote Bought a 10FP LE2b (MCM A3) and a Model 12 VLP in 22-250 back in '05 and both are pretty accurate out of the box. 308 Win. ammunition is ubiquitous and comes in many factory loads, it's easy to reload for, is relatively cheap and the round offer long barrel life. Chris |
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243 (faster twist barrel for up the new 115 gr bullets 260 rem or 6.5 creed (either since they are pretty equal) 7mm rem mag maybe one of the short magnums... I really like the Mossberg predator rifle. Takes 308 AR mags which can be had in 5, 10, 20 & 25 rounders. The gun is built like a Savage and uses Savage pattern barrel threads. Nice trigger. Wish I could justify a 308 and maybe use it to build a 260 Remington down the road... |
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What's your budget?
I have been *ridiculously* impressed with my Ruger American Predator in .223. If I was on a budget, and wanted the most accurate deer gun that wasn't a pain in the ass to lug around, I'd get a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor, 6mm Creedmoor or .243. All will kill deer and be more accurate than you should expect at 350 and change. They are super light, and apparently impervious to pretty much anything but probably flame. REALLY lightweight. There's a shitload of good guns in that range now, Ruger Americans, Savage M10/11/12/16, Thompson, even Weatherby Vanguards can be found for under 500 bucks. Your main decision is what caliber do you want. |
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Meant new rifle. For about the same price savage comes with a scope, ruger don't. Leaning toward a. 308
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Any semi modern cartridge with decent ammo will work fine and out to 300 yards and you wont see any difference. Pick one and enjoy. Also buy a Tikka.
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The only thing funnier than 6.5 CREEDMOOR fanboys are the ones that do not know how to spell CREEDMOOR. Fact. Unless you're a short-action heathen. |
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I'm required to tell you of the awesomeness of the .270 Winchester especially from a classic bolt action
however though the .30-06 is never wrong, nor is the .308, 7mm-08, 7x57, .260 Remington, .243 Win, 6.5x55, or the current fad of the week but actually really capable 6.5 Creedmoor |
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