Brown Bear 223 Rem 55 gr Soft Point

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Posted: 8/22/2017 1:12:46 PM EDT

@bluefalcon tests Brown Bear .223 Rem 55gr Soft Point for AR15.COM's YouTube channel. You can also see videos he's done for us in the past, in our video section here.

Impact Velocity: 3,071 FPS
Penetration: 13.1"
Retained Weight: 33.3gr
Max Expansion: 0.634"
Min Expansion: 0.417"
Neck: 1"
TSC: 4" x 6.5"

Brown Bear 223 Rem 55 gr Soft Point | Gel Test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etTvFZlR-0c

Posted: 8/22/2017 1:45:08 PM EDT

[#1]

Thanks !
Again.

Posted: 8/22/2017 1:50:48 PM EDT

[#2]

My pleasure.

Posted: 8/22/2017 2:12:08 PM EDT

[#3]

Works a LOT better than I would have expected.

Posted: 8/22/2017 2:14:34 PM EDT

[#4]

"...your crappy rifle..."

Posted: 8/22/2017 2:21:02 PM EDT

[#5]

Thanks for the review!

Posted: 8/22/2017 2:50:46 PM EDT

[#6]

Wow, that's surprising.

I'd really like to see what that does at ~100 yards with a 11.5 carbine. For someone on a tight budget, it might be a great option for someone who already has a mag or 2 of quality HD ammo.

Posted: 8/22/2017 3:20:45 PM EDT

[#7]

thanks, and it's been shared

Posted: 8/22/2017 4:02:03 PM EDT

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best part. I laughed. My rifles cycle steel just fine but that shit is all over the place with accuracy. Inside of 20 feet? not sure its gonna matter

Posted: 8/22/2017 4:14:55 PM EDT

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Well, you have to admit that having a rifle for SHTF or HD that is too prissy to cycle steel cased ammo makes about as much sense as having a "Bug-Out" vehicle that only runs on Premium 93 Octane zero-ethanol gas. After all, that's the type of rifle/carbine this discussion seems to be about.

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:39:53 PM EDT

[#10]

Thanks. Good video and review. But I wonder, did you take more than one data set? I would be interested in the extreme spread in a box? Where does a box chrono at plus or minus, as opposed to one shot.

Not meant to be overly critical, just curious.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:02:48 PM EDT

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That's a good point. Only room in the block for 2-3 shots and I want to use that to test different types of ammo, but there's no reason I can't shoot a string over the chrono next time.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:03:51 PM EDT

[#12]

Nice video. Keep them coming.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:11:29 PM EDT

[#13]

Strap some pork ribs and shirt/jacket in front of that gel and do it again. Just to see how it does through that. looks good through the gel.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:16:20 PM EDT

[#14]

How would you compare this to their 62gr offerings? I saw the silver bear had less penetration.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:26:28 PM EDT

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Wow, that's surprising.

I'd really like to see what that does at ~100 yards with a 11.5 carbine. For someone on a tight budget, it might be a great option for someone who already has a mag or 2 of quality HD ammo.

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I keep 8 mags of 64 gr Gold dot loaded and ready.

I have about 3k of this brown bear 55 gr sp stuff sitting that I shoot for practice alot. Sgammo runs really great prices on it. I've always had better luck with it then Wolf and Tula.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:43:16 PM EDT

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I keep 8 mags of 64 gr Gold dot loaded and ready.

I have about 3k of this brown bear 55 gr sp stuff sitting that I shoot for practice alot. Sgammo runs really great prices on it. I've always had better luck with it then Wolf and Tula.

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Wow, that's surprising.

I'd really like to see what that does at ~100 yards with a 11.5 carbine. For someone on a tight budget, it might be a great option for someone who already has a mag or 2 of quality HD ammo.

I keep 8 mags of 64 gr Gold dot loaded and ready.

I have about 3k of this brown bear 55 gr sp stuff sitting that I shoot for practice alot. Sgammo runs really great prices on it. I've always had better luck with it then Wolf and Tula.

Generally speaking, BB seems to have higher velocities than Wolf...

Posted: 8/22/2017 7:28:43 PM EDT

[#17]

This is great food for my Arsenal SLR 106. Pretty impressive gel test. Thanks

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:01:48 PM EDT

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I keep 8 mags of 64 gr Gold dot loaded and ready.

I have about 3k of this brown bear 55 gr sp stuff sitting that I shoot for practice alot. Sgammo runs really great prices on it. I've always had better luck with it then Wolf and Tula.

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Wow, that's surprising.

I'd really like to see what that does at ~100 yards with a 11.5 carbine. For someone on a tight budget, it might be a great option for someone who already has a mag or 2 of quality HD ammo.

I keep 8 mags of 64 gr Gold dot loaded and ready.

I have about 3k of this brown bear 55 gr sp stuff sitting that I shoot for practice alot. Sgammo runs really great prices on it. I've always had better luck with it then Wolf and Tula.

Same here, except with Fusion MSR (same bullet).

It looks like a good loading to stack deep. Better performance than FMJ, at least.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:24:35 PM EDT

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Wow, that's surprising.

I'd really like to see what that does at ~100 yards with a 11.5 carbine. For someone on a tight budget, it might be a great option for someone who already has a mag or 2 of quality HD ammo.

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I find gave an 11.5in anymore, but from my 13.8in the 62grn Silver Bear soft points averaged 2690fps muzzle. OneDrive Excell link here.

Posted: 8/22/2017 8:40:01 PM EDT

[#20]

Well done. Thanks.

Posted: 8/22/2017 9:41:43 PM EDT

[#21]

Seems like a good economy defense load. Thanks for doing that test.

Posted: 8/22/2017 10:21:00 PM EDT

[#22]

Wow. I'm surprised at the performance, might have to take a second look at Brown bear.

Is brown bear like the cheap tula and use steel projectiles that cause barrel wear?

Posted: 8/23/2017 1:50:26 AM EDT

[#23]

That is actually a lot better terminal performance than many of the loads you see touted as ideal personal defense loads by keyboard commandos and tactical guru wannabes. I'd greatly prefer bullet performance like this compared to the results you'd get from lightweight polymer tip bullets, lightweight hollow points and even many of the 55 grain soft points you see in U.S. made ammunition. For a non-bonded soft point in the 55 grain range, that's about as good as performance gets.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:53:20 AM EDT

[#24]

Great information, thanks.

Posted: 8/23/2017 8:56:31 AM EDT

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Wow. I'm surprised at the performance, might have to take a second look at Brown bear.

Is brown bear like the cheap tula and use steel projectiles that cause barrel wear?

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They are steel jacketed. You are unlikely to shoot enough to notice any difference in wear.

Posted: 8/23/2017 9:23:45 AM EDT

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Wow. I'm surprised at the performance, might have to take a second look at Brown bear.

Is brown bear like the cheap tula and use steel projectiles that cause barrel wear?

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Yes but that lucky Gunner test is bullshit. You're only going to see the same results they did by shooting as many rounds as they did in such a short amount of time. My LMT has 19K of steel case through it with multiple two day classes with 800-900 rounds for each class. It still shoots groups within the military spec for a service rifle.

Posted: 8/23/2017 10:12:14 AM EDT

[#27]

I've personally witnessed this stuff work well on hogs.

Great test and thanks for all the hard work!

Posted: 8/23/2017 10:46:19 AM EDT

[#28]

I really enjoy your videos. Great work.

I would love to see you test every one of your rounds out of a 11" or so SBR as well, as many of us run those with suppressors for HD. I know we can extrapolate which you point out in your videos, but photographic evidence is always helpful.

Carry On.

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:07:38 AM EDT

[#29]

Good feedback.

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:22:34 AM EDT

[#30]

now if we could only find it in stock.

Posted: 8/23/2017 11:38:33 AM EDT

[#31]

My only suggestion would be to use the extra two or three shots to test the repeatability of the terminal effects.

Considering the quality control of that ammo, that expansion result might change (better or worse).

Posted: 8/23/2017 3:29:49 PM EDT

[#32]

Given the results I've seen from other Russian soft point on my own channel, I don't expect a big difference.

Posted: 8/23/2017 5:29:16 PM EDT

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Right?

Posted: 8/23/2017 10:26:37 PM EDT

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Is this in reference to the 62 grain SP or, multiple shots in the gel from the 55 grain you tested in this video?

Posted: 8/24/2017 4:48:10 AM EDT

[#35]

As always great info ! Thank You.

I am going to have to purchase some and check its 100yd accuracy in my rifles.... gel performance is certainly GTG.

Posted: 8/24/2017 11:26:05 AM EDT

[#36]

Ahhhh, shouldn't this be in Ammunition? Trying to understand why this is in General. Is it due to being part of the Ar15 YouTube channel?

Posted: 8/24/2017 11:32:16 AM EDT

[#37]

my bushmaster shot it great very accurate,little dirty but killed a doe no problem.good stuff.

Posted: 8/24/2017 6:34:14 PM EDT

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The 62gr soft point and other steel jacketed Russian soft point in 7.62x39mm.

Posted: 8/24/2017 8:42:09 PM EDT

[#39]

Have you tested the 62 grain Brown or Silver Bear Hollow Point?

Posted: 8/24/2017 8:44:48 PM EDT

[#40]

Great video. On the money!

ARs should cycle steel case and function with steel case ammo.

Posted: 8/25/2017 12:40:00 AM EDT

[#41]

Can you do a comparison of the Brown Bear to the Prvi Partizen 55SP. I know the Prvi is more but..

Posted: 8/25/2017 10:02:40 AM EDT

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.223 gel test: Silver Bear 62 gr soft point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-BwEdZ5eIY

Posted: 8/25/2017 10:10:01 AM EDT

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I don't usually do a head to head comparison, but I can test the PPU. I'll see if I can find some.

Posted: 8/25/2017 10:27:09 AM EDT

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Go away son, you bother me.

W.C. Fields

Posted: 8/25/2017 11:26:28 AM EDT

[#45]

Makes sense. I can just watch both videos.

Posted: 8/25/2017 12:46:59 PM EDT

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Hollow point, not soft.

Posted: 8/25/2017 1:37:18 PM EDT

[#47]

never mind...

Posted: 8/25/2017 1:43:45 PM EDT

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My mistake. I misread. No, I haven't. It will most likely not frag or expand.

Posted: 8/25/2017 2:13:09 PM EDT

[#49]

and you keep the name buddyfucker?

that's nice.

Posted: 8/25/2017 2:46:10 PM EDT

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Where the hell did that come from?

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