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The NYPD brass who were booted off a flight to Afghanistan for being too drunk humiliated their department and wasted hundreds of man hours used to set up the training mission, an organizer raged in a letter to Counter-terrorism Chief James Waters.
“You and your team embarrassed the job, wasted tax payers’ money and embarrassed our NYPD Brethren,” fumed the letter-writer, a former Big Apple cop who is now a Defense Department contractor. “I have been approached by both Coalition Personnel and also Americans laughing and asking how can this behavior happen from some of the highest ranking Officers that NYPD has.” Waters was headed to Kabul with Lt. Chris Zimmerman, commander of the hostage negotiation team, along with four other top police officers to teach counter-terrorism tactics to soldiers. But they spent a flight delay drinking at Baltimore-Washington International Airport on Aug. 10, and had to abandon the trip altogether when crew on their military charter decided at least two of the officers were too wasted to fly, police sources said. The top cops were only taking on a military plane in the first place because they insisted on bringing their own firearms — even though the FBI and military were happy to lend them weapons once they got there, the letter writer said. “Your delay and continued delay of this the trip just so you could get your own firearms into theater contributed to more wasted man hours and tax payers’ money,” wrote the ex-officer, who asked The Post withhold his identity. View Quote “To me it seems like it was amateur hour for your team and it was obvious that there was no leadership … you could not control your team's urge to drink to excess,” the letter said.
The jaunt was little more than a thrill-seeking “adventure tour” photo-op set up by a four-star general who is pals with Waters anyway, the retired cop claimed. “This was just a line on your resume for your next job ‘We went to Afghanistan to win the war,’” he berated Waters. View Quote |
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That's saying something to be booted from a military flight for being too drunk.
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So NYPD brass (as in senior leadership?) planned to go to Afghanistan to "teach" soldiers how to fight?
Yea, who thought that was a good idea? While we're at it, let's have the CAP head to Diego Garcia to teach B2 pilots how to fly. |
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he's just pissed that the NYPD cops called the soldiers "civilians."
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The group returned to the city, and they are planning a make-up trip for October.
'Look, no one feels good about it, but they are still going to do it probably in October,' a police official said. View Quote A police spokesman, Deputy Commissioner Stephen Davis, said the department is looking into the incident. View Quote 'I am aware of no misconduct that occurred,' said Roy Richter, president of the NYPD Captains Endowment Association. 'This was a training operation that has been delayed and will be rescheduled sometime in the future.' View Quote |
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Wow. That guy didn't pull any punches.
Also, if the facts are as presented, he's 100% right. What a fucking embarrassment to the entire country. |
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Wow. That guy didn't pull any punches. Also, if the facts are as presented, he's 100% right. What a fucking embarrassment to the entire country. View Quote Aircrew told them they were too drunk to fly. |
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As a contractor....that's the kinda shit you draft up and let your customer send.
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So NYPD was going to teach the Army how to shoot tons of bystanders while carrying guns with ridiculous trigger pull?
I guess a trip to the MOUT course to "teach the soldiers" wouldn't look as good on the resume. |
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They must have been completely fall down on the verge of passing out drunk. I have been on several military flights when I was in the 82nd and none of us were ever kicked off the flight for being too drunk. I'm actually impressed.
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I guess they start believing all that brass bullshit on their cop uniforms means shit.
Not when an O-5 tells you get the fuck off my bird. If they had any sense of dignity they'd resign, they won't. |
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TDY to an area where their income can be Federal tax-free for that month? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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So drunk AND flying with their duty weapons???
Sounds like some great judgement there. Should be fired IMHO.... |
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Because cops know how to fight terrorists... What a fucking joke. Stay CONUS and eat doughnuts you fat lazy fucks.
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Nypd is going to Afghanistan. What a waste of taxpayers dollars and manpower. Could they not find a nice conference in tahiti ?
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Were any of the brass also members of the NYARNG's 69th Inf. Reg. in which case there could be some UCMJ hilarity?
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That's saying something to be booted from a military flight for being too drunk. View Quote |
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I booted a few off during my flying career. Telling the Loadmaster that you'll sit down and fasten your seatbelt when you're goddamn good and ready is not a good response when flying Space A. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That's saying something to be booted from a military flight for being too drunk. |
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So drunk AND flying with their duty weapons??? Sounds like some great judgement there. Should be fired IMHO.... View Quote I guess they then were walking around the airbase blasted and with loaded weapons. |
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I booted a few off during my flying career. Telling the Loadmaster that you'll sit down and fasten your seatbelt when you're goddamn good and ready is not a good response when flying Space A. View Quote |
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and here I was still thinking that having guys from the FBI tagging along on raids in Afghanistan was odd, now we have cops over seas.
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I'm suspicious now that the OP quit policing early because he couldn't keep up.
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That's saying something to be booted from a military flight for being too drunk. Oops...wrong answer...thanks for playing. I told the pax service person to take him off the plane...he wasn't flying with us. |
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I've heard two separate briefings from the NYPD intel folks. Underwhelmed, to say the least. They certainly did have a high opinion of themselves.
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normally UCMJ only applies to NG if they are on Title 10 orders at the time of the misconduct, IIRC. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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They will fly commercial in a few days - for an even greater cost to taxpayers.
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