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Posted: 8/21/2017 9:06:55 PM EDT
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/lenin-statues-removed-soviet-union-russia-crimea-ukraine-bolshevik-communist-petro-poroshenko-a7903611.html
"Ukraine has removed all 1,320 statues of the communist revolutionary Lenin following a government drive to rid the country of Soviet-era symbols. Monuments to the Bolshevik leader have been dismantled in every town, village and city controlled by the Kiev-based government that brought down pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovych three years ago, according to officials. View Quote |
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They are being relocated to San Francisco, Chicago, Austin, etc
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I really went to like Ukraine, but they just seem like a country that has a real hard time taking care of themselves.
I hope this is a sign that is all changing. |
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This seems oddly Orwellian. History being deleted all around the world, as if to open the door for new, cleaner history to be created in it's place. Strange times...
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This seems oddly Orwellian. History being deleted all around the world, as if to open the door for new, cleaner history to be created in it's place. Strange times... View Quote |
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For starters, those monuments were imposed upon the public by an authoritative regime. Many of the confederate monuments are from private groups.
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Difference is the Russians were occupiers. The south was already there.
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They need to be destroyed. These will end up in the U.S. in a city near you, if they're not blown the fuck up.
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No, but it is dependent upon people being reminded of it. But by all means, they can try and forget about their occupation and enslavement and the atrocities that happened. View Quote Also, statues glorifying Lenin hardly serve as a public reminder of the brutality of the USSR. Triumphal statues are editorials, and in the case, produced to glorify Russia. |
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Would be funny if they shipped them all to a small island like Easter Island to confuse future generations.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/lenin-statues-removed-soviet-union-russia-crimea-ukraine-bolshevik-communist-petro-poroshenko-a7903611.html "Ukraine has removed all 1,320 statues of the communist revolutionary Lenin following a government drive to rid the country of Soviet-era symbols. Monuments to the Bolshevik leader have been dismantled in every town, village and city controlled by the Kiev-based government that brought down pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovych three years ago, according to officials. View Quote View Quote as long as they left up the statues of Jeff Davis and Bobby Lee, nobody here is gonna fault them for tearing down a few old outdated monuments |
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No, but it is dependent upon people being reminded of it. But by all means, they can try and forget about their occupation and enslavement and the atrocities that happened. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Please do not sarcastically compare Lenin with Confederate leader memorials.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This seems oddly Orwellian. History being deleted all around the world, as if to open the door for new, cleaner history to be created in it's place. Strange times... You got to admit this is strange shit. |
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No, but it is dependent upon people being reminded of it. But by all means, they can try and forget about their occupation and enslavement and the atrocities that happened. View Quote OK,some lunatic breaks into your home,kills your children and holds you hostage. He paints a mural of himself on the wall of your living room as he attempts to convince you to join his cult. You finally chase him out of the house...do you keep the painting as a quaint reminder? |
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I think it's a mistake.
They should leave them. I think that they should show them to their children; 'There he is! That's the Russian bastard who invaded our country, oppressed us for decades and hand picked as his successor the mad man who starved millions of us to death. Never forget who he is. Never forget who the Russians are!' |
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Please do not sarcastically compare Lenin with Confederate leader memorials.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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No, but it is dependent upon people being reminded of it. But by all means, they can try and forget about their occupation and enslavement and the atrocities that happened. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They aren't burning libraries and shooting professors. History isn't dependent upon statues. my great grandparents emigrated from Lviv in the 1930s. I don't have any statues from them. They remembered. So do I. So do my sons. |
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And we're busy removing the heroes of the War of Northern Aggression.
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They should have never given back the nukes w/o compensation.
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And we're busy removing the heroes of the War of Northern Aggression. View Quote You mean that period of social unrest when the Democrats threw a fit because they thought that the Republicans were gonna take away their slaves? Thus giving the Republicans an excuse to take away their slaves. Nothing much really changes about those folks, does it? |
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Kinda depends on where in Ukraine you are, to determine the attitude about this. I've stood next to several Lenin statues in Ukraine over the years. My MIL, who lives in a predominately Russian speaking part of Ukraine asked my wife just last week (after seeing the news about the confederate statues coming down), if the U.S. had sought some disease from Ukraine.
History is what it is, it should be remembered, and not re-written, here or there. |
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And we're busy removing the heroes of the War of Northern Aggression. View Quote If the south conquered the north, ruled over her harshly, put a Lee statue in downtown Detroit, then gave up rule over the north, we'd all be fine with Detroit tearing down the statues. |
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Good. Melt them down and make tanks out of them to fight the commies.
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Goodbye Lenin!
Goodbye to the horrible legacy brought about by classic russian expansionism! Fight Vladolf Putler, get the US over there to whoop some of those russian dogs for you! |
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