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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:24:53 AM EDT
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I'll forgo my usual Steubenville crack.
Two people involved in the attack? That sounds odd. The Court of Common Pleas sounds like it handles felonies and divorces, not much info there. Probation officer killed one person and another was taken into custody. You know it's odd how often angry people blame their own lawyer, not the other lawyer or judge. When i was clerking in law school a former public defender said he was pretty scared of his former clients and thought they were often more mad at him than anyone else ie "you didn't get me off the hook." I had a hearing a few months ago where a guy I was questioning went batshit, swore and left the building. You could hear him in the parking lot screaming about how much he hated his lawyer, not me or the judge. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:29:38 AM EDT
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I'll forgo my usual Steubenville crack. But Ohio doesn't really claim stubenville. It's more WV than Ohio. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:31:13 AM EDT
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Good to see the judge is in stable condition, and good on that probation officer.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:33:16 AM EDT
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Good to see the judge is in stable condition, and good on that probation officer. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:34:10 AM EDT
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TWO perps? Gang action perhaps?
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:40:38 AM EDT
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Hoping the judge is ok and everyone involved is alright. But Ohio doesn't really claim stubenville. It's more WV than Ohio. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll forgo my usual Steubenville crack. But Ohio doesn't really claim stubenville. It's more WV than Ohio. Word on street is it's the dad of one of the football plays that raped that girl. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:40:50 AM EDT
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Kinda surprised it doesn't happen more often.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:41:45 AM EDT
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In Ohio, the Probation Officers you see in most Courts of Common Pleas are retired or very seasoned cops. Probation is kind of an old folks home for cops. I know lots of them from many different counties and I can't think of more than a couple who couldn't or wouldn't "bring it" just like the PO in question. They are OPOTA trained and full-fledged police officers, for the most part. In some counties they see even more action than road deputies.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:42:02 AM EDT
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Judge returned fire
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:42:19 AM EDT
[#10]
Poor shot or quick reactions?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9tkMYoOLAhk |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:47:02 AM EDT
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In Ohio, the Probation Officers you see in most Courts of Common Pleas are retired or very seasoned cops. Probation is kind of an old folks home for cops. I know lots of them from many different counties and I can't think of more than a couple who couldn't or wouldn't "bring it" just like the PO in question. They are OPOTA trained and full-fledged police officers, for the most part. In some counties they see even more action than road deputies. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:47:13 AM EDT
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I know nothing about Ohio, but in NY probation officers get marginal, at best, training, like sometimes a day at the range. That PO brought it though, good on him/her. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:50:06 AM EDT
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I'm guessing it's an irate ex-husband and his buddy / brother/ cousin / all three who didn't like the property division / visitation he was awarded.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:51:04 AM EDT
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Glad perp got deaded. Should have been two.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:52:10 AM EDT
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I'm guessing it's an irate ex-husband and his buddy / brother/ cousin / all three who didn't like the property division / visitation he was awarded. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:55:47 AM EDT
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I'll forgo my usual Steubenville crack.
Two people involved in the attack? That sounds odd. The Court of Common Pleas sounds like it handles felonies and divorces, not much info there. Probation officer killed one person and another was taken into custody. You know it's odd how often angry people blame their own lawyer, not the other lawyer or judge. When i was clerking in law school a former public defender said he was pretty scared of his former clients and thought they were often more mad at him than anyone else ie "you didn't get me off the hook." I had a hearing a few months ago where a guy I was questioning went batshit, swore and left the building. You could hear him in the parking lot screaming about how much he hated his lawyer, not me or the judge. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:56:57 AM EDT
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If Dad wasn't the one who was DRT he can be Son's cell mate.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:58:37 AM EDT
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The news account's witness's statement is very Steubenville:
"My alarm went off at 8 a.m., and I snoozed it, and a minute or two later, I heard approximately 7 or 8 gunshots, and I went to look out the window and I seen somebody in a white shirt, probably a detective, kneeling down firing at something, and that’s when I knew something happened down here," witness Cody Allison said. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:58:42 AM EDT
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If Dad wasn't the one who was DRT he can be Son's cell mate. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:59:37 AM EDT
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Good shoot by judge and PO.
Too bad they didn't get both perps. OTOH, maybe the judge in question can sentence the other bad guy.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 10:59:52 AM EDT
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I'll forgo my usual Steubenville crack.
Two people involved in the attack? That sounds odd. The Court of Common Pleas sounds like it handles felonies and divorces, not much info there. Probation officer killed one person and another was taken into custody. You know it's odd how often angry people blame their own lawyer, not the other lawyer or judge. When i was clerking in law school a former public defender said he was pretty scared of his former clients and thought they were often more mad at him than anyone else ie "you didn't get me off the hook." I had a hearing a few months ago where a guy I was questioning went batshit, swore and left the building. You could hear him in the parking lot screaming about how much he hated his lawyer, not me or the judge. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:00:06 AM EDT
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I love that the Judge returned fire himself.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:02:59 AM EDT
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I know nothing about Ohio, but in NY probation officers get marginal, at best, training, like sometimes a day at the range. That PO brought it though, good on him/her. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good to see the judge is in stable condition, and good on that probation officer. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:03:51 AM EDT
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Once after winning a felony arson trial, i.e., an acquittal, the "victim" showed up in my office yelling and screaming. That was the worst problem I've had, thankfully. I was at lunch. He showed up screaming for me. My secretary said "Danny, you know who I am?" I guess he was surprised and said "Uh sure, you're Suzy Jones" "Okay Danny, you know my husband Jack in the boilermaker's union?" "Uh sure" "Do you want me to call him and tell him you're yelling at me and he needs to come over here?" "Oh, ah.. no,no. Sorry, I was out of line, I'm leaving" |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:09:21 AM EDT
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It's a "side" thing, in my experience. Most folks I deal with see the police, the judges, and the D.A.s as being the other side, and their own lawyer(s) as being on their side. The other side is always out to get you, so whatever, but if your side fails you it smacks of betrayal. i represented a murderer (well "manslaughterer") on appeal. I drove out to the prison and met with him. Very pleasant, he had an odd sing songey voice. Appeal went okay, forgot about it. years later I stop at the grocery store late at night and hear "Hi there!" In that same odd voice and almost screamed. I spun around and there he was. He was pretty cool, staying out of trouble and getting on with life, but God damn I almost shit myself. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:12:12 AM EDT
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I've been lucky. Never had a problem with a criminal client. i represented a murderer (well "manslaughterer") on appeal. I drove out to the prison and met with him. Very pleasant, he had an odd sing songey voice. Appeal went okay, forgot about it. years later I stop at the grocery store late at night and hear "Hi there!" In that same odd voice and almost screamed. I spun around and there he was. He was pretty cool, staying out of trouble and getting on with life, but God damn I almost shit myself. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's a "side" thing, in my experience. Most folks I deal with see the police, the judges, and the D.A.s as being the other side, and their own lawyer(s) as being on their side. The other side is always out to get you, so whatever, but if your side fails you it smacks of betrayal. i represented a murderer (well "manslaughterer") on appeal. I drove out to the prison and met with him. Very pleasant, he had an odd sing songey voice. Appeal went okay, forgot about it. years later I stop at the grocery store late at night and hear "Hi there!" In that same odd voice and almost screamed. I spun around and there he was. He was pretty cool, staying out of trouble and getting on with life, but God damn I almost shit myself. 
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:13:50 AM EDT
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Poor shot or quick reactions? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9tkMYoOLAhk  Lawyer Dodges Bullets |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:19:22 AM EDT
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That was a really crappy website. First, my computer screen goes black several times and then an advertisement fills my screen. Then I can finally see the article and the picture of the suspect being led away by law enforcement officers only shows half the image from the waist down.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:25:27 AM EDT
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Sons out, he is trying to play ball for Youngstown State. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:34:00 AM EDT
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From what I recall that rape trial was as shady as fuck. Not condoning what the Dad did, but anger drives men to do some crazy things.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:49:26 AM EDT
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From what I recall that rape trial was as shady as fuck. Not condoning what the Dad did, but anger drives men to do some crazy things. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:52:22 AM EDT
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Yes it was, and Stuebenville circled the wagons around the football plays. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:54:19 AM EDT
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I've been lucky. Never had a problem with a criminal client. i represented a murderer (well "manslaughterer") on appeal. I drove out to the prison and met with him. Very pleasant, he had an odd sing songey voice. Appeal went okay, forgot about it. years later I stop at the grocery store late at night and hear "Hi there!" In that same odd voice and almost screamed. I spun around and there he was. He was pretty cool, staying out of trouble and getting on with life, but God damn I almost shit myself. My wife and I were at the Dayton Auto Show and I walked purposefully up to a car I wanted to sit in because I always walk purposefully. There were a couple of older gents standing by the open driver's door chatting, one of them saw me coming and recoiled with a no shit look of fear on his face. I plopped my ass down in the car, checked it out and moved on to the next car. Was puzzled at his reaction. Took me awhile to remember that he was the insurance company's attorney. Maybe it is that my neutral, relaxed, semi-happy expression looks like I'm pissed as hell thank you gravity very much. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:56:31 AM EDT
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From what I recall that rape trial was as shady as fuck. Not condoning what the Dad did, but anger drives men to do some crazy things. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 11:59:14 AM EDT
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Are y'all saying the defendant was railroaded? (Not familiar with the case, just curious) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes it was, and Stuebenville circled the wagons around the football plays. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:06:26 PM EDT
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Hoping the judge is ok and everyone involved is alright. But Ohio doesn't really claim stubenville. It's more WV than Ohio. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:12:06 PM EDT
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Nonsense, Weirton's problem is meth. Steubenville has the drug trade from Detroit and the urban black problems that go with it, albeit on a small scale. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hoping the judge is ok and everyone involved is alright. But Ohio doesn't really claim stubenville. It's more WV than Ohio. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:15:46 PM EDT
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Everyplace's problem is Heroin. But the big problems don't cross either bridge between Steubenville and Weirton.
Wheeling and Belmont County are a different story of course... |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:24:53 PM EDT
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Everyplace's problem is Heroin. But the big problems don't cross either bridge between Steubenville and Weirton. Wheeling and Belmont County are a different story of course... |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:25:56 PM EDT
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POs here are usually social worker types, never heard of a police officer going into it. Interesting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In Ohio, the Probation Officers you see in most Courts of Common Pleas are retired or very seasoned cops. Probation is kind of an old folks home for cops. I know lots of them from many different counties and I can't think of more than a couple who couldn't or wouldn't "bring it" just like the PO in question. They are OPOTA trained and full-fledged police officers, for the most part. In some counties they see even more action than road deputies. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:39:56 PM EDT
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OPOTA is not nearly as good as it used to be.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:44:24 PM EDT
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Maybe the judge earned it, in for more details. No amount of shooting at Judges will get your kid out of prison. Quite the contrary. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:47:30 PM EDT
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No mention of what type guns were used.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:48:05 PM EDT
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Thankfully, the Chicago boys are supposedly in Weirton and the PD keeps a eye out for them. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:48:45 PM EDT
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OPOTA is not nearly as good as it used to be. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:50:58 PM EDT
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I love how they refuse to release the names of the attempted assassins until they have had a chance to scrub their social media.
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:53:42 PM EDT
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Bull shit, it's not part of WV. Word on street is it's the dad of one of the football plays that raped that girl. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll forgo my usual Steubenville crack. But Ohio doesn't really claim stubenville. It's more WV than Ohio. Word on street is it's the dad of one of the football plays that raped that girl. Is the judge that was ambushed today a juvenile or general division common pleas court judge? |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:54:48 PM EDT
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I'll forgo my usual Steubenville crack.
Two people involved in the attack? That sounds odd. The Court of Common Pleas sounds like it handles felonies and divorces, not much info there. Probation officer killed one person and another was taken into custody. You know it's odd how often angry people blame their own lawyer, not the other lawyer or judge. When i was clerking in law school a former public defender said he was pretty scared of his former clients and thought they were often more mad at him than anyone else ie "you didn't get me off the hook." I had a hearing a few months ago where a guy I was questioning went batshit, swore and left the building. You could hear him in the parking lot screaming about how much he hated his lawyer, not me or the judge. Not everything is the Supreme Court like New York. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 12:56:19 PM EDT
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Maybe the judge earned it, in for more details. Judges can be into some crazy shit. Nothing like having a change of venue because of it. Most likely though, dumbass, drugs, etc. |
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Posted: 8/21/2017 1:18:08 PM EDT
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Bull shit, it's not part of WV. Word on street is it's the dad of one of the football plays that raped that girl. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'll forgo my usual Steubenville crack. But Ohio doesn't really claim stubenville. It's more WV than Ohio. Word on street is it's the dad of one of the football plays that raped that girl. |
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