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Posted: 6/26/2017 8:53:08 AM EDT
Oh, those zany teens! Cheeky little devils.

A brawl forced the temporary lockdown of San Francisco’s downtown Westfield Mall Sunday evening and ended with several people being detained, authorities said.

As officers attempted to stop the fighting, they were attacked and assaulted.
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Brawl shuts down SF mall
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 8:55:59 AM EDT
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Werrllllstarrr
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 8:57:08 AM EDT
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One "juvenile" is under arrest...
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 8:57:41 AM EDT
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If I remember right, Westfield is a nice fucking mall, right in the shopping district.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:00:23 AM EDT
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Where were their fathers?
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:00:48 AM EDT
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Shocking........
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:01:29 AM EDT
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STEM schools must have let out early.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:03:22 AM EDT
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If I remember right, Westfield is a nice fucking mall, right in the shopping district.
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Public mass transit can be a motherfucker.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:04:24 AM EDT
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Westfield Mall is near the Oakland bridge.  Violence there a coincidence?  I think not.

Obviously more baton rouge is needed.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:04:30 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:05:36 AM EDT
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This is now a very different America, where you have to assess the risks of going certain places before heading out.

Places that were once "safe" or fun are slowly getting taken over as hives of violence. From malls to fast food places, you will notice that normal people are starting to avoid them. In less than 10 years, we will joke about all of these places as we do Chuck E Cheese. There will be "no-go zones" for the civilized people who value their safety.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:06:03 AM EDT
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If I remember right, Westfield is a nice fucking mall, right in the shopping district.
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Yes and no. Below Union Sq on market. A block south is SoMa and a block NW is the Tenderlion.

Basically, its bordered by shit on a few sides.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:08:08 AM EDT
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Did the media provide any pictures or descriptions of the rowdy youths?
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:12:47 AM EDT
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Yes and no. Below Union Sq on market. A block south is SoMa and a block NW is the Tenderlion.

Basically, its bordered by shit on a few sides.
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When I lived there SOMA was getting nice, with the food truck market and a lot of new office space. The Ross and Safeway were a disaster though, and this was 8 years ago. The Tenderloin will always be the Tenderloin though.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:13:24 AM EDT
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This is now a very different America, where you have to assess the risks of going certain places before heading out.

Places that were once "safe" or fun are slowly getting taken over as hives of violence. From malls to fast food places, you will notice that normal people are starting to avoid them. In less than 10 years, we will joke about all of these places as we do Chuck E Cheese. There will be "no-go zones" for the civilized people who value their safety.
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Maybe there will be exclusive "membership only" locations.

It'll be "racist", but that's what we've come to that's what "they" want.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:15:13 AM EDT
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When I lived there SOMA was getting nice, with the food truck market and a lot of new office space. The Ross and Safeway were a disaster though, and this was 8 years ago. The Tenderloin will always be the Tenderloin though.
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I guess SoMa is a broad term. There are decent parts and then you have the 6th st corridor.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:19:39 AM EDT
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Security at the doors and a policy of nobody under the age of 18 unless accompanied by a parent at all times.
No ID, no enter.
With facial recognition software as good as it is these days, keep a up to date trespass database and prosecute if they violate it.

If they don't get a handle on this, brick and mortar shopping centers (even high end ones) will be dead in 10 years max.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:27:46 AM EDT
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How long before the term "brawl" becomes racist.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:28:57 AM EDT
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It is, with a BART station underneath it.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:43:05 AM EDT
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Maybe if they started arresting more than 1 person at these things...
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 9:49:29 AM EDT
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That used to be The Emporium Store.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:05:01 AM EDT
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Security at the doors and a policy of nobody under the age of 18 unless accompanied by a parent at all times.
No ID, no enter.
With facial recognition software as good as it is these days, keep a up to date trespass database and prosecute if they violate it.

If they don't get a handle on this, brick and mortar shopping centers (even high end ones) will be dead in 10 years max.
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So true, there's an erstwhile upscale mall not far from me where folks have been starting to avoid going to.

Wellington Greens, located in an upscale area is becoming loaded with a crowd that is majority THUG and folks have been avoiding it resulting in a very large number of empty stores and restaurants.

You can go there during the day, but at night or on weekends it is filled with folks that make shoppers feel "uncomfortable".

Most of the upscale stores that used to be located there have shut their doors and the replacements are "athletic shoe" stores which abound.

You've hit the nail on the head.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:08:35 AM EDT
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Security at the doors and a policy of nobody under the age of 18 unless accompanied by a parent at all times.
No ID, no enter.
With facial recognition software as good as it is these days, keep a up to date trespass database and prosecute if they violate it.

If they don't get a handle on this, brick and mortar shopping centers (even high end ones) will be dead in 10 years max.
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Sounds like a good plan.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:17:37 AM EDT
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How long before the term "brawl" becomes racist.
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Now, you rasis!   It was a "mass vibrant expression"!
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:17:46 AM EDT
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Where were their fathers?
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They were at work
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:19:04 AM EDT
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That used to be The Emporium Store.
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Which was once the location of St. Ignatius College Preparatory.
GO WILDCATS!
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:20:47 AM EDT
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Security at the doors and a policy of nobody under the age of 18 unless accompanied by a parent at all times.
No ID, no enter.
With facial recognition software as good as it is these days, keep a up to date trespass database and prosecute if they violate it.

If they don't get a handle on this, brick and mortar shopping centers (even high end ones) will be dead in 10 years max.
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Needs immediate implementation.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:22:55 AM EDT
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How long before the term "brawl" becomes racist.
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It was just an impromptu boxing exhibition. 
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:24:19 AM EDT
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So true, there's an erstwhile upscale mall not far from me where folks have been starting to avoid going to.

Wellington Greens, located in an upscale area is becoming loaded with a crowd that is majority THUG and folks have been avoiding it resulting in a very large number of empty stores and restaurants.
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I was recently in a very high end shopping center looking at expensive watches.
Nothing makes you NOT want to pay out $10k for a watch more than looking at the gauntlet of thugs you'd have to run to get from the store to your car.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:27:50 AM EDT
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This is now a very different America, where you have to assess the risks of going certain places before heading out.

Places that were once "safe" or fun are slowly getting taken over as hives of violence. From malls to fast food places, you will notice that normal people are starting to avoid them. In less than 10 years, we will joke about all of these places as we do Chuck E Cheese. There will be already are "no-go zones" for the civilized people who value their safety.
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FIFY
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:28:06 AM EDT
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Obviously, at work. 
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:36:28 AM EDT
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I was recently in a very high end shopping center looking at expensive watches.
Nothing makes you NOT want to pay out $10k for a watch more than looking at the gauntlet of thugs you'd have to run to get from the store to your car.
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You'd think that the malls' ownerships and managements would have figured it out but they're either dumb and blind or pretending to be.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:38:33 AM EDT
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I'm sure most of them were fathers.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:39:39 AM EDT
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Maybe if they started arresting more than 1 person at these things...
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No shit. Massive brawl shuts down mall, police attacked, and "several" people "detained".
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:44:20 AM EDT
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There is never a brawl on Amazon. And they wonder why......
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:47:36 AM EDT
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It is, with a BART station underneath it.
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If I remember right, Westfield is a nice fucking mall, right in the shopping district.
It is, with a BART station underneath it.
Hmmmmm... I wonder...
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 10:58:41 AM EDT
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Let me guess......
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 11:09:38 AM EDT
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this is what happens when you embrace diversity, you get diversity.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 11:10:41 AM EDT
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Which was once the location of St. Ignatius College Preparatory.
GO WILDCATS!
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That used to be The Emporium Store.
Which was once the location of St. Ignatius College Preparatory.
GO WILDCATS!
St. Ignatius College Prepartory was on Market St. between 4th and 5th St?
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 11:11:13 AM EDT
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Planned Parenthood could have prevented that.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 11:11:19 AM EDT
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Hmmmmm... I wonder...
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If I remember right, Westfield is a nice fucking mall, right in the shopping district.
It is, with a BART station underneath it.
Hmmmmm... I wonder...
Bet the yutes were from Oakland, Vallejo and Richmond.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 11:11:57 AM EDT
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3% or less
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 11:18:22 AM EDT
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Social Justice ain't got no end. and likes to throw bricks. In the mall.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 11:19:58 AM EDT
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Security at the doors and a policy of nobody under the age of 18 unless accompanied by a parent at all times.
No ID, no enter.
With facial recognition software as good as it is these days, keep a up to date trespass database and prosecute if they violate it.

If they don't get a handle on this, brick and mortar shopping centers (even high end ones) will be dead in 10 years max.
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A fleet of indoor flying drones. tag 'em and bag 'em.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 11:20:16 AM EDT
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Needs a liberal application of hickory shampoo all around.
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 11:21:17 AM EDT
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They have killed more malls than the recession ever thought of
Link Posted: 6/26/2017 11:21:20 AM EDT
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There is never a brawl on Amazon. And they wonder why......
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Bezos will be king of the world one day.
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