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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:11:38 PM EDT
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Cool.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:13:05 PM EDT
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wax
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:13:18 PM EDT
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1 out of 3 Americans suffer from chronic pain? Bull Fucking Shit.
They want to sell pot to 1 out of 3 Americans and make a bunch of money - I'll believe that. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:15:52 PM EDT
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drug companies see the writing on the wall for MJ and want a piece of that pie too. They'll market it as a "safer", more regulated and legit alternative to the small brand medical MJ and alternative to their opioids. It's a win/win for them.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:17:22 PM EDT
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Good. Marijuana will be legal soon, the writing is on the wall (Arfcom statistics be damned).
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:17:34 PM EDT
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drug companies see the writing on the wall for MJ and want a piece of that pie too. They'll market it as a "safer", more regulated and legit alternative to the small brand medical MJ and alternative to their opioids. It's a win/win for them. 
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:19:42 PM EDT
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1 out of 3 Americans suffer from chronic pain? Bull Fucking Shit. They want to sell pot to 1 out of 3 Americans and make a bunch of money - I'll believe that. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:21:45 PM EDT
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Holy shit 100m Americans are dependant on opiods?
I would have guessed 50m, but holy fuck. That sucks. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:22:45 PM EDT
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Yep,and buying it through them will save you............-786% |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:26:13 PM EDT
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I have a pal who makes willie nelson look like a lightweight smoker, who also has a lot of pain (medically retired army/navy man). He insists to me that it does nothing for pain, he just likes the buzz.... I dunno, I don't give a damn either way as long as folks are responsible with it. I think the medical angle is just that.... a crack in the armor to get it legalized.... whatever.... |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:26:51 PM EDT
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I also wouldn't be surprised if drug companies in the next 10 yrs start buying up big manufacturers of MJ edibles or even huge grow opps. When states slowly start legalizing there's tremendous money to be made and they'll be damned if that eats into their profits for prescription pain killers. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:31:06 PM EDT
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I'll drink to that...
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:33:23 PM EDT
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1 out of 3 Americans suffer from chronic pain? Bull Fucking Shit. They want to sell pot to 1 out of 3 Americans and make a bunch of money - I'll believe that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
1 out of 3 Americans suffer from chronic pain? Bull Fucking Shit. They want to sell pot to 1 out of 3 Americans and make a bunch of money - I'll believe that. According to the most recent data, adult obesity rates now exceed 35 percent in four states, 30 percent in 25 states and are above 20 percent in all states. Louisiana has the highest adult obesity rate at 36.2 percent and Colorado has the lowest at 20.2 percent. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:36:27 PM EDT
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Prescription drugs based off marijuana have been around for awhile. My guess is this is a way to re-classify and market prescription drug marijuana for "chronic pain" and set up new patents to lock in any potential revenue. Plus the cat's out of the bag on opiates since they were marketed as the best and safest thing in the 90s leading to the addiction and heroin epidemic today.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:39:06 PM EDT
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1 out of 3 Americans suffer from chronic pain? Bull Fucking Shit. They want to sell pot to 1 out of 3 Americans and make a bunch of money - I'll believe that. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:39:59 PM EDT
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You are correct of course, but marijuana is easy to grow and edibles are easy to make at home. No one has to buy it from big pharma. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I also wouldn't be surprised if drug companies in the next 10 yrs start buying up big manufacturers of MJ edibles or even huge grow opps. When states slowly start legalizing there's tremendous money to be made and they'll be damned if that eats into their profits for prescription pain killers. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:41:58 PM EDT
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consider the motivation level of your typical pot head. The market will be massive. How many colorado pot heads are making their own edibles vs are just buying them? My bet would be a 1:10 ratio. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:44:37 PM EDT
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Yep,and buying it through them will save you............-786% Quote HistoryQuoted:
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drug companies see the writing on the wall for MJ and want a piece of that pie too. They'll market it as a "safer", more regulated and legit alternative to the small brand medical MJ and alternative to their opioids. It's a win/win for them. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:52:33 PM EDT
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Rinos will fight it
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:55:30 PM EDT
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1/3? I believe it. Have you seen the amount of obese people lately?
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:56:28 PM EDT
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Nothing specifically in response to the claims in the article from the OP, but in general narcotics are fairly destructive and anything to get us off those is a plus in my mind. If that ends up being THC medications, so be it.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 3:58:32 PM EDT
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How MJ is considered pain-killer ?! Once upon a time I made a mistake to sit stoned at dentist chair. Horrible experience.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:03:02 PM EDT
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My cousin is in pain 24/7 from a car wreck when she was 14 "broken hip, neck and shoulder". She has never taken opioid type meds unless it's extremely painful that day. I for one hope they do work, at least people like her would be able to get out of bed every day without much help or take a shower without having to sit down in a chair much less be able to function more than 20%
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:06:59 PM EDT
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I've got arthritis, neuropathy and old age pains every hour of every day.
I take nothing because I don't like feeling doped up. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:09:13 PM EDT
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You are correct of course, but marijuana is easy to grow and edibles are easy to make at home. No one has to buy it from big pharma. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I also wouldn't be surprised if drug companies in the next 10 yrs start buying up big manufacturers of MJ edibles or even huge grow opps. When states slowly start legalizing there's tremendous money to be made and they'll be damned if that eats into their profits for prescription pain killers. Could end up with an AG that has a hard on for weed (gateway to heroin and crack and all) that goes against the states as well. A SCOTUS ruling on the federal governments ability to ban a plant could be interesting. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:10:20 PM EDT
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I'll drink to that... |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:11:39 PM EDT
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Good. Marijuana will be legal soon, the writing is on the wall (Arfcom statistics be damned). |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:15:04 PM EDT
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Depending on the area, 1/3 sounds about right due to having a larger percentage of older people and those whose work involves manual labor. It also includes things like migraines, too.(Those who get them can tell you that there aren't many medications that help as well as cannabis) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1 out of 3 Americans suffer from chronic pain? Bull Fucking Shit. They want to sell pot to 1 out of 3 Americans and make a bunch of money - I'll believe that. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:15:16 PM EDT
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Why? THC is nowhere in the same arena as most anti-inflammatories; much less opioids.
Hell; there's really no true medicinal use for weed; other than getting high (and that surely isn't medicinal). Anti-nausea? lol. Yeah right. Glaucoma? You're not shitting me. People who like weed (including doper doctors) will fabricate any reason in the world to smoke. Just smoke. Don't make shit up to justify your habit. 
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:19:19 PM EDT
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Why? THC is nowhere in the same arena as most anti-inflammatories; much less opioids. Hell; there's really no true medicinal use for weed; other than getting high (and that surely isn't medicinal). Anti-nausea? lol. Yeah right. Glaucoma? You're not shitting me. People who like weed (including doper doctors) will fabricate any reason in the world to smoke. Just smoke. Don't make shit up to justify your habit. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:19:42 PM EDT
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As soon as they come to market, all of a sudden, MJ will become legal......but only if you have a script for one of their products.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:23:53 PM EDT
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Why? THC is nowhere in the same arena as most anti-inflammatories; much less opioids. Hell; there's really no true medicinal use for weed; other than getting high (and that surely isn't medicinal). Anti-nausea? lol. Yeah right. Glaucoma? You're not shitting me. People who like weed (including doper doctors) will fabricate any reason in the world to smoke. Just smoke. Don't make shit up to justify your habit. Yea, people that like weed will fabricate any reason to justify its use but that is no different from any other medication that has abuse potential. Medical marijuana none-the-less has many benefits for a variety of medical issues. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:26:53 PM EDT
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Why? THC is nowhere in the same arena as most anti-inflammatories; much less opioids. Hell; there's really no true medicinal use for weed; other than getting high (and that surely isn't medicinal). Anti-nausea? lol. Yeah right. Glaucoma? You're not shitting me. People who like weed (including doper doctors) will fabricate any reason in the world to smoke. Just smoke. Don't make shit up to justify your habit. If you want to accuse everyone who points out it's medical uses as just looking for an excuse to get high, that's fine. Just acknowledge that it's wrong for the state to prevent people from pursuing whatever line of treatment they see fit, and that your preconceptions have no grounding in scientific facts. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:28:25 PM EDT
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So we're going to see Pharma commercials for these new meds? Lovely.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:29:32 PM EDT
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I have to take painkillers daily, and trust me, you don't want to take opioids regularly, because if you skip a dose you get sick in a bad way. If MJ will actually work for real pain--which I am skeptical of--then I'd gladly choose it as a safer alternative. Right now I'm trying a new opioid-like drug called Nucynta for breakthrough, and it looks promising. The more options we have the better off we are. Hopefully in ten years opioids will be uncommon.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:34:09 PM EDT
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So what if 30% of people want to catch a buzz. As Long as they can get to work the next day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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1 out of 3 Americans suffer from chronic pain? Bull Fucking Shit. They want to sell pot to 1 out of 3 Americans and make a bunch of money - I'll believe that.   Good, I thought so. 
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:35:00 PM EDT
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.I used to think I was pretty tough..not anymore....would welcome anything that could give any kind of life back.... I can't take any NSAID and I hate taking Opiates. Hopefully this is something that works. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:36:36 PM EDT
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Holy shit 100m Americans are dependant on opiods? I would have guessed 50m, but holy fuck. That sucks. Dad needs 2 new knee's and has 3 discs giving him issues in his back on percocet. Mom had a cyst form on her spinal cord, had to have a piece of vertebrae taken out to get to it, has and always has had osteoperosis bone will not heal like a normal person, has severe back pain and is on morphine and has been for about 12 years since her surgery. It was either have the surgery and not become a paraplegic or have the surgery and be able to walk and hope the bones healed correctly which they didn't now horrible pain but she can walk and make it through the day. I hate it for both of them, it affects their personalities. I was on percocet for about a year when I had a slipped disc and when I had my fusion came off of them cold turkey about 2 months after my surgery, I was addicted to them too it was a little rough but didn't need rehab or nothing. I can understand how people get addicted to them especially if they affect people like me and my dad, both of us they make hyper and we feel like we can do anything, my mom and wife however go straight to sleep most of the time. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:38:05 PM EDT
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So we're going to see Pharma commercials for these new meds? Lovely. Doobafed Highlenol Highbuprofen 
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:38:40 PM EDT
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I also wouldn't be surprised if drug companies in the next 10 yrs start buying up big manufacturers of MJ edibles or even huge grow opps. When states slowly start legalizing there's tremendous money to be made and they'll be damned if that eats into their profits for prescription pain killers. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:39:21 PM EDT
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So we're going to see Pharma commercials for these new meds? Lovely. 
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:39:56 PM EDT
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In before the Drug Warriors rant on about "dopers"
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:47:19 PM EDT
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1 out of 3 Americans suffer from chronic pain? Bull Fucking Shit. They want to sell pot to 1 out of 3 Americans and make a bunch of money - I'll believe that. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 4:58:31 PM EDT
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Why? THC is nowhere in the same arena as most anti-inflammatories; much less opioids. Hell; there's really no true medicinal use for weed; other than getting high (and that surely isn't medicinal). Anti-nausea? lol. Yeah right. Glaucoma? You're not shitting me. People who like weed (including doper doctors) will fabricate any reason in the world to smoke. Just smoke. Don't make shit up to justify your habit. Ask someone with Parkinson's if there's no true medical use. Ask the parents of epileptic children whose seizures are controlled or prevented using cannibis oil. Ask the cancer patients who are able to improve their quality of life or even cure their cancer. Sounds like you are the one making shit up to justify your conditioned prejudice against the plant. There has been an extreme lack of scientific research into the potential medical benefits to be derived from this specific plant until the last decade or so because politicians made it a "drug" a long time ago. Now the science is being blocked and/or neutered due to old stigmas and stubborn lawmakers. Why promote mis-information? Look into the real, documented medical benefits before you claim there are none. You've limited your scope of examples to subjective benefits easily characterized as smokescreen excuses to get high. Sure, there are folks who are doing exactly what you are saying but there are also benefits you haven't considered. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 5:00:05 PM EDT
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LOL its a money grab and nothing more. Plus most people hooked on opiods don't generally look to get less of a high, they go the other route.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 5:02:49 PM EDT
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LOL its a money grab and nothing more. |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 5:04:02 PM EDT
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Can some ARFDOCS explain this to me?
I thought most painkillers WERE made from Marijuana - that's the whole idea of opioid based painkillers Am I missing something? |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 5:05:00 PM EDT
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I desperately need to take Opioids but allow myself to live life suffering instead. I would welcome a new painkiller with less side effects and that is not addictive.
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Posted: 6/23/2017 5:05:02 PM EDT
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Why not just plant it in the ground and use it after it grows
Why do we have to make this complicated |
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Posted: 6/23/2017 5:05:31 PM EDT
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Am I missing something? Marijuana (cannabis) is a different genus of plants. ETA: Pictures Papaver somniferum: 
Cannabis sativa: 
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