HR3668 (SHARE Act)--GOP potentially removing suppressor language. Turn the screws on 'em ARF!

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - HR3668 (SHARE Act)--GOP potentially removing suppressor language. Turn the screws on 'em ARF! (Page 1 of 28)

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:36:05 PM EDT

Update 10/30/17:

Potential removal of suppressor language
https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060064863

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According to Duncan, there are several options including dropping the silencer provision altogether and replacing it with other gun language. He said one idea could add language that would ban or require more stringent licensing for buying bump stocks, a plastic attachment added to semiautomatic weapons that allows them to fire far more rapidly.

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Duncan said it was too soon to say what compromises would be worked out, but he also said he is working to correct "misinformation" spread about the bill that has even made some moderate Republicans uneasy about voting on it. He said he would like the final package to contain the silencer provisions, some language on bumpstocks and national reciprocity."

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Jeff Duncan is the bill's sponsor and needs to hear from "sportsmen" that we will not accept a neutured bill that removes the suppressor deregulation language from the bill.

FIREMISSION
Contact Speaker Ryan HERE to urge him to bring the SHARE Act to a full vote in the house.

Contact your rep HERE to urge them to support the SHARE Act.

ETA: Here's a direct link to the bill (thanks jmhal)

Passed committee, here's a link to an article about it. SHARE Act Passage

Link to most viewed bills in the House. As of 9/27, HPA was #2 and SHARE was #3. Link

This link brings you to the bill itself (the text is not currently online however). Cicking this link apparently affects the "most viewed" link above, which is updated every Monday.

TITLE XVIII—LAWFUL PURPOSE AND SELF-DEFENSE
Sec. 1801. Short title.
Sec. 1802. Elimination of authority to reclassify popular rifle ammunition as
‘‘armor piercing ammunition’’.
Sec. 1803. Elimination of restrictions on importation of non-National Firearms
Act firearm or ammunition that may otherwise be lawfully possessed
and sold in the United States.
Sec. 1804. Protection of shotguns, shotgun shells, and large caliber rifles from
arbitrary classification as ‘‘destructive devices’’.
Sec. 1805. Broadening of the temporary interstate transfer provision to allow
temporary transfers for all lawful purposes rather than just for
‘‘sporting purposes’’.

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Posted: 6/12/2017 5:37:12 PM EDT

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What does it do? Give me a boner

No more sporting clause for importation
No more ATF rulings on ammo
No more restricting ammo from importation
No more over .50 caliber = DD
That last one I'm hazy on, maybe buying handguns across state lines?

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:39:52 PM EDT

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What does it do? Give me a boner

No more sporting clause for importation
No more ATF rulings on ammo
No more restricting ammo from importation
No more over .50 caliber = DD
That last one I'm hazy on, maybe buying handguns across state lines?

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And with the HPA addition, reclassification of suppressors as Title I firearms.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:40:28 PM EDT

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I think it means Chinese (Norinco?) AK47's (Mak90's) and M1A's will be allowed to be imported again to the US.

I also think that that 5.45X39 ammo called 7N6 will be allowed to be imported again.

Maybe we can get Saiga 12s in an already converted over or non-sporterized versions??

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:41:52 PM EDT

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Its going to be like 86 all over again..

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:42:02 PM EDT

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Posted: 6/12/2017 5:43:02 PM EDT

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Huh?

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:43:03 PM EDT

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My bank account hopes it doesn't pass.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:43:09 PM EDT

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yay

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:44:00 PM EDT

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with preemption, forbidding states and local governments from imposing taxes and registration. Which I don't remember being in the original.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:44:49 PM EDT

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Its going to be like 86 all over again..

Huh?

"Compromise"

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:45:44 PM EDT

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No NFA or suppressor shit though.

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I was under the impression that they rolled the HPA into the SHARE bill. So the HPA would pass with it.

Maybe I'm way off though.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:45:55 PM EDT

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Read it again.

Suppressors will be over the counter like a firearm.The manufacturer will pay the 10% tax.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:46:37 PM EDT

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Posted: 6/12/2017 5:46:57 PM EDT

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FIFY.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:48:17 PM EDT

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If it means 7.62x25 comes back, I'll be a happy camper. The Ppsh will live again. Also, does it mean WW2 german rifles G43, G41 will start being importable from Russia again?

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:48:18 PM EDT

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I was under the impression that they rolled the HPA into the SHARE bill. So the HPA would pass with it.

Maybe I'm way off though.

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No NFA or suppressor shit though.

I was under the impression that they rolled the HPA into the SHARE bill. So the HPA would pass with it.

Maybe I'm way off though.

Yep, title XVII is the HPA rolled in.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:48:36 PM EDT

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But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:48:44 PM EDT

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oh, i was going off what the OP posted, not the entirety of the bill

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:48:48 PM EDT

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Read it again.

Suppressors will be over the counter like a firearm.The ~~manufacturer~~ consumer will pay the 10% tax.

FIFY.

Yeah,but you don't even notice it.

Kind of like when people look at their paycheck-no one pays attention to all the taxes taken out,only what they are getting.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:48:53 PM EDT

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Posted: 6/12/2017 5:49:54 PM EDT

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Yep,there's only a handful of people in the US that could possibly make suppressors.............

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:50:05 PM EDT

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Yeah,but you don't even notice it.

Kind of like when people look at their paycheck-no one pays attention to all the taxes taken out,only what they are getting.

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Oh, don't get me wrong. I'll pay 10% more for a can, save the $200, and walk right out with it.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:50:30 PM EDT

[#23]

Subscribed

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:50:46 PM EDT

[#24]

In for the surprise ass fucking.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:50:53 PM EDT

[#25]

Here's a direct link to the draft

Also to those having trouble

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:51:45 PM EDT

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Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese $200 cans.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:52:17 PM EDT

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Oh, don't get me wrong. I'll pay 10% more for a can, save the $200, and walk right out with it.

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Yeah,but you don't even notice it.

Kind of like when people look at their paycheck-no one pays attention to all the taxes taken out,only what they are getting.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I'll pay 10% more for a can, save the $200, and walk right out with it.

Don't forget it is also 100% legal to manufacturer your own title I firearm.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:52:19 PM EDT

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Oh, don't get me wrong. I'll pay 10% more for a can, save the $200, and walk right out with it.

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You won't though...Economies of scale much? The sheer number of suppressors that will flood the market and the innovation involved with new brands finding their market niche will make the floor fall out of the suppressor market.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:52:56 PM EDT

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Posted: 6/12/2017 5:53:50 PM EDT

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You won't though...Economies of scale much? The sheer number of suppressors that will flood the market and the innovation involved with new brands finding their market niche will make the floor fall out of the suppressor market.

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yup they will be disposible/rebuildable which will make them super cheap..

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:53:51 PM EDT

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I swear, some of you guys would complain if you were hung with a new rope.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:53:55 PM EDT

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Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese $200 cans.

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But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.

Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese $200 cans.

Glock makes a disposable suppressor.Under 50.00 IIRC.

Read an article on them a few years back.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:54:12 PM EDT

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Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese $200 cans.

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I'm fine with this, or something like Primary Arms forays into the red dot world.

I don't need SEAL Team Six cans if I can pick them up and leave with them.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:54:53 PM EDT

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Glock makes a disposable suppressor.Under 50.00 IIRC.

Read an article on them a few years back.

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But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.

Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese $200 cans.

Glock makes a disposable suppressor.Under 50.00 IIRC.

Read an article on them a few years back.

Damn, if I wasn't a Glock fanboy before, I will be then.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:54:56 PM EDT

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I swear, some of you guys would complain if you were hung with a new rope.

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But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.

I swear, some of you guys would complain if you were hung with a new rope.

And some guys will never get sarcasm.....................

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:56:18 PM EDT

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Damn, if I wasn't a Glock fanboy before, I will be then.

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IIRC its all plastic.. Rather cool disposible unit..

I like they have entrys about Lead use in ammo.. about time..

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:56:49 PM EDT

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Direct link added to OP. Thx.

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:57:30 PM EDT

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That last one I'm hazy on, maybe buying handguns across state lines?

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Currently you are only allowed to temporarily loan a firearm to a resident of another state for a "sporting purpose". ATF has interpreted sporting purpose as traditional hunting and sport shooting (trap & skeet) purposes. They don't consider self protection, IDPA, 3gun, etc as a "sporting purpose"

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:57:53 PM EDT

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The real question is this, what are the odds it will pass?

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:58:47 PM EDT

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I think it means Chinese (Norinco?) AK47's (Mak90's) and M1A's will be allowed to be imported again to the US....

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The ban on Chinese firearms is due to a Presidential Order issued by Bush1.

Bush sanctions on China

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:59:05 PM EDT

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Damn, if I wasn't a Glock fanboy before, I will be then.

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But the prices will still be $800 or more because a tube with caps on the end is damn near impossible to manufacture.

Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese $200 cans.

Glock makes a disposable suppressor.Under 50.00 IIRC.

Read an article on them a few years back.

Damn, if I wasn't a Glock fanboy before, I will be then.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/Hnahn3D2sAc[/youtube]

Posted: 6/12/2017 5:59:55 PM EDT

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With the RINOS in running congress, low to very low. They are too busy conspiring against the president.

Posted: 6/12/2017 6:00:02 PM EDT

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IN for the disappointment

Posted: 6/12/2017 6:00:08 PM EDT

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725 to 1

Posted: 6/12/2017 6:00:49 PM EDT

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Shhhhhhh

Posted: 6/12/2017 6:00:57 PM EDT

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so..once this passes will all the dickface whiners shit up about trump?

Posted: 6/12/2017 6:00:59 PM EDT

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I think it means Chinese (Norinco?) AK47's (Mak90's) and M1A's will be allowed to be imported again to the US.

I also think that that 5.45X39 ammo called 7N6 will be allowed to be imported again.

Maybe we can get Saiga 12s in an already converted over or non-sporterized versions??

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Does that mean Harbor Freight will be getting their FFL and slinging Norinco goodies by the container ship load?

Posted: 6/12/2017 6:03:48 PM EDT

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FIFY.

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Read it again.

Suppressors will be over the counter like a firearm.The ~~manufacturer~~ consumer will pay the 10% tax.

FIFY.

Unless they build one

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Patiently waiting for PSA to release shitty Chinese ~~$200~~ $70 cans.

FIFY

Posted: 6/12/2017 6:04:17 PM EDT

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You must have never searched "solvent trap" lol

I could be wrong, but title one means that we can 80% them.

Posted: 6/12/2017 6:06:00 PM EDT

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Nice, but still won't pass.

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