Chronology of events of April 19[edit]
Time
Event
05:50
Agents call Branch Davidian compound to warn they are going to begin tank activity and advise residents "to take cover". Agents say the Branch Davidian who answered the phone did not reply, but instead threw the phone and phone line out of the front door.
05:55
FBI Hostage Rescue Team deploys two armored CEVs to the buildings. CEV1 goes to the left of the buildings, CEV2 to the right.[69]
06:00
FBI surveillance tapes from devices planted in the wall of the building record a man inside the compound saying "Everybody wake up, let's start to pray", then, "Pablo, have you poured it yet?" ... "Huh?" ... "Have you poured it yet?" ... "In the hallway" ... "Things are poured, right?" CEV1 receives orders to spray two bottles of tear gas into left corner of building.[69]
06:04
Armored vehicle with ram and delivery device to pump tear gas into building with pressurized air rips into front wall just left of front door, leaving a hole 8 feet (2.4 m) high and 10 feet (3.0 m) wide. Agents claimed the holes not only allowed insertion of the gas, but also provided a means of escape. Agent sees shots from inside the compound directed at CEVs.[69]
06:10
FBI surveillance tapes record "Don't pour it all out, we might need some later" and "Throw the tear gas back out." FBI negotiator Byron Sage is recorded saying "It's time for people to come out." Surveillance tapes record a man saying "What?", and then "No way."
06:12
FBI surveillance tapes record Branch Davidians saying "They're gonna kill us", then "They don't want to kill us."
06:31
The entire building is gassed.[69]
06:47
FBI fires plastic, nonincendiary tear gas rounds through windows.[69]
07:23
FBI surveillance tapes record a male Branch Davidian saying, "The fuel has to go all around to get started." Then a second male says, "Well, there are two cans here, if that's poured soon."
07:30
CEV1 is redeployed, breaching the building and inserting tear gas. Branch Davidians fire shots at CEV1.[69]
07:48
On FBI tapes of agents recorded during the siege, FBI agent requests permission to fire military-style tear gas shells to break through underground concrete bunker. Gets permission, fires two shells.[69]
07:58
CEV2, with battering ram, rips hole into second floor of compound and then minutes later another hole is punched into the backside of one of the buildings of the compound. The vehicles then withdraw.[69]
08:08
Three pyrotechnic military tear gas rounds are shot at the concrete construction pit (not the concrete bunker), away and downwind from the main quarters, trying to penetrate the structure, but they bounce off.[70]:28–32 Agent in CEV reports that one shell bounced off bunker, did not penetrate.[69][70]:30
08:24
Audio portion of FBI videotape ends, at request of pilot.[69]
09:00
The Branch Davidians unfurl a banner which reads "We want our phone fixed."
09:13
CEV1 breaks through front door to deliver more gas.[69]
09:20
FBI surveillance records a meeting starting at 7:30 am between several unidentified males.[71]
UM: "They got two cans of Coleman fuel down there? Huh?"
UM: "Empty."
UM: "All of it?"
UM: "Nothing left."
10:00
A man is seen waving a white flag on the southeast side of the compound. He is advised over loudspeakers that if he is surrendering he should come out. He does not. At the same time, a man believed to be Schneider comes out from the remains of the front door to retrieve the phone and phone line.
11:30
Original CEV2 has mechanical difficulties (damaged tread), replacement breaches through back side of compound.[69]
11:17 – 12:04
According to the government, a series of remarks such as "I want a fire", "Keep that fire going", and "Do you think I could light this soon?" indicate that the Branch Davidians have started setting fire to the complex around 11:30.[70]:15–19[71]:287 Surviving Branch Davidians testified that Coleman fuel had been poured, and fire experts in Danforth's report agree "without question" that people inside the complex had started multiple accelerated fires.[70]:15–19, appendixes D and E
11:43
Another gas insertion takes place, with the armored vehicle moving well into the building on the right rear side to reach the concrete interior room where the FBI believe Branch Davidians are trying to avoid the gas.
11:45
Wall on right rear collapses.[69]
12:03
Armored vehicle turret knocks away first floor corner on right side.
12:07
First visible flames appear in two spots in the front of the building, first on the left of the front door on the second floor (a wisp of smoke then a small flicker of flame) then a short time later on the far right side of the front of the building, and at a third spot on the back side. An FBI agent reported seeing a Branch Davidian member igniting a fire in the front door area.[70]:18
12:09
Ruth Riddle exits with computer disk in her jacket containing Koresh's Manuscript on the Seven Seals. Third fire detected on first floor.[69]
12:10
Flames spread quickly through entire building, fanned by high winds. The building burns very quickly.
12:12
Emergency call placed for Waco Fire Department. Two Waco FD trucks are dispatched. Shortly after, Bellmead FD dispatches two trucks.
12:22
Waco fire trucks arrive at checkpoint, where they are halted;[citation needed] Bellmead follows shortly after.
12:25
There is a large explosion on the left side of the compound. One object hurtles into the air, bounces off the top of the white bus and lands on the grass.
12:30
Part of the roof collapses. Around this time, there are several further explosions and witnesses report the sound of gunfire, attributed by the FBI to live ammunition cooking off throughout the buildings because of fire.
12:43
According to fire department logs, fire trucks arrive at compound.
12:55
Fire begins to burn out. The entire compound is leveled.
15:45
Law enforcement source says David Koresh is dead.

That was mighty fine work, boys.

Mighty fine.

Clinton Whitehouse 

Who trusts the FBI to do the right thing anymore?  See:  Comey and Underlings.  Or for that matter, anyone in federal establishment.

Fuck Janet Reno.

He's dead Jim.

I hope Satan is ass raping her with fire.

Fidelity.

Bravery.

Integrity.  





In.

That bitch is in Hell with the Devil and his angels. I hope she sees the faces of the Waco children.

So...they poured the gas and lit the fires themselves?

Burn
All
Toddlers
First

what a pity

Attached File

.

Waco thread.

Fuck yeah, I'm in!

08:24 Audio portion of FBI videotape ends at request of pilot

I liked yesterday's "The Redcoats crossing the river" thread better. 

That was much better, I agree.

None of this would have happened if they just complied with the lawful orders of the sworn officers and agents right?

Operation Showtime.

Yeah.

Today is also the OKC Murray Bombing anniversary

Yes it is.

This should be fun

What do you think?

Or not set themselves on fire.

Am I missing something here?

Pour gas on yourself and light a match and it is the government's fault?

They were made an example of.

I remember those days well. I think the prepper community really started to come together about that time.

dead, burning in hell, with a whole special hotel for waiting for Hillary and Ginsberg

Yeah... the part where they were just trying to live free.

These threads are great.  The JBT's pour in and justify cremating toddlers. 

I wondered about that too...why...what was he hearing? Two tapes would be harder to doctor than one?

I've been to the compound, have a broken burned brick on my desk as a reminder. Spoke to the caretaker for hours. He was a Davidian, lost his wife and child on that day. Says the Davidians didnt burn themselves. I believe him.

Burning your kids to death is part of living free?

Ok.

Question, has the FBI HRT actually RESCUED A HOSTAGE?
They seem to mostly kill people instead.

If a shit ton of agents and armored vehicles show up at my house I'm not going outside.

I could see the exhaust from the tanks first, then saw larger columns of black smoke. I knew something was wrong and zoomed our camera in. It was a windy day and the building was fully involved. A couple of minutes later the FD came racing by our camera position, but it was already too late.

Let's not forget to wish the alcoholic dope head Ann Richards a good day in hell for her part in the entire thing.

Speechless, still speechless after all these years. Your government is full of mercy.....Bill Clinton and Reno can burn in hell!

Okc bombing,  2 years later

Tapes are doctored.

They didn't commit suicide. 

Ah what the hell, in. 

They had to get it on.

Reading this got me thinking of that fucking dirt bag nasty cunt Janet Reno, hope she's shaking in hell.

Were you working for KWTX at the time?

They seemed to me to be the only local station that was at least impartial and somewhat fair to the Davidians.

Soft Cover.

Years ago these threads were really great.
It was JIA and Pato against GD.

They were makin' a move, man!

Extremely careless.

(I was in Waco that day)

Yep.

I guess Pato is gone. JIA should be along soon though.

Federal Government

They rescued the fuck outta Randy Weaver's wife.

Lon Horiuchi can burn, too...

TC

Clinton really went after those he didn't like. Hated prepper types and guns/gun culture. 

And she got to live out the rest of her life with no accountability.No accountability for anyone in that clusterfuck.

A couple guys out of 250 million went for payback (NOT justifying it).


And what has changed since then?We still see the gov doing whatever the fuck they want with no accountability.

Holy sh*t. A lot of bad things happened during Bubba's reign in office. Thank goodness we don't have Herr Hitlery as the occupier in chief of the Whine Haus.

Almost forgot about Pato and his duck avatar (if I'm remembering correctly).

There was of course a reprisal to April 19, 1993...it occurred two years later.

I like the ATF's BS claim of how many "Machineguns" they seized.

Here is a pile of melted, blown up, fucked up guns.  But they just happened to all be illegal MGs, wink wink.