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Posted: 1/29/2017 5:44:40 PM EDT
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A Buddy bought the top of the line Panamera. 550 hp and 0 to 60 in about 3.4 seconds. He did a couple of speed runs using the launch control mode where you stand on the brake and floor the gas to build up turbo boost. Oh my God! I can understand how people with super fast cars can wipe out and kill themselves. This one has four wheel drive and tracked straight but things are happening so fast that if something went wrong I wouldn't have time to react. He took it up to 170 mph before he backed off. I would love to own one myself. It sure would make passing on the freeway fun. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 5:47:48 PM EDT
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Two many doors
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Posted: 1/29/2017 5:47:58 PM EDT
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And ugly as sin while doing it. I didn't think it looked bad at all. The only way I could begin to justify spending that kind of money is because of the back seat. I do have Grand-kids. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 5:52:01 PM EDT
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Too bad it's such an unfortunate looking car...
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Posted: 1/29/2017 5:53:11 PM EDT
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I didn't think it looked bad at all. The only way I could begin to justify spending that kind of money is because of the back seat. I do have Grand-kids. 911s have back seats that fit slender women and grandchildren... Just sayin. 
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Posted: 1/29/2017 5:54:53 PM EDT
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The Panamera is an amazing car.
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Posted: 1/29/2017 5:56:05 PM EDT
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They are awesome cars but one of the ugliest Porsche has produced!
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Posted: 1/29/2017 5:57:05 PM EDT
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911s have back seats that fit slender women and grandchildren... Just sayin. A "no fat chics" car
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Posted: 1/29/2017 5:59:51 PM EDT
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The spoiler deployment on the new Panamera is a thing of beauty, however I can't get comfortable with the fastback 4-door coupe aesthetic. Second gen much better looking than the first, but that's not saying much.
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:00:35 PM EDT
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You forgot the legless adults.
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911s have back seats that fit slender women and grandchildren... Just sayin. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:05:28 PM EDT
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I was going to post a thread about buying one. It's between that and an M5. Either will be nice. Either will be expensive to maintain.
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:07:08 PM EDT
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You forgot the legless adults. There is actually quite a bit of leg room in the back. It's the head room the suffers. I was kind of hoping this thread would be more about the speed and handling of this car as opposed to style especially since style is subjective where performance is quantitative. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:07:25 PM EDT
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Aren't most cars sold in the US electronically governed at 155? Also, purchase or lease? I wouldn't waste my money on one of those German shit boxes.
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:07:56 PM EDT
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It has twice as many doors as any good, self-respecting Porsche ought to.
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:08:31 PM EDT
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4 door fail.
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:11:24 PM EDT
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Seems to me that the M6 GC is a better rival for the Panamera. If you are set on the M5 and are looking to purchase new, then wait because the new one is dropping this year.
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I was going to post a thread about buying one. It's between that and an M5. Either will be nice. Either will be expensive to maintain. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:14:55 PM EDT
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It's funny, my wife loves them, I hated them when they first came out. After years of looking at them I finally like them. Don't want one, but like how they look now.
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:15:42 PM EDT
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Aren't most cars sold in the US electronically governed at 155? Also, purchase or lease? I wouldn't waste my money on one of those German shit boxes. To answer the first question, no. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:16:35 PM EDT
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The spoiler deployment on the new Panamera is a thing of beauty, however I can't get comfortable with the fastback 4-door coupe aesthetic. Second gen much better looking than the first, but that's not saying much. https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1F6MiBQv--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/nxjhkp1pz841domx6217.gif It's a Decepticon! |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:18:12 PM EDT
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And ugly as sin while doing it. Beyond. 
I have driven one and it is awesome to drive though. 
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:20:43 PM EDT
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I like them. If I didn't need a car and HD truck it would get a serious look.
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:21:32 PM EDT
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And ugly as sin while doing it. One of the worst looking cars around today. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:22:53 PM EDT
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Seems to me that the M6 GC is a better rival for the Panamera. If you are set on the M5 and are looking to purchase new, then wait because the new one is dropping this year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Seems to me that the M6 GC is a better rival for the Panamera. If you are set on the M5 and are looking to purchase new, then wait because the new one is dropping this year. Quoted:
I was going to post a thread about buying one. It's between that and an M5. Either will be nice. Either will be expensive to maintain. Thanks. The m5 and m6 have been my dream cars for 30 years. I owned an m3 in my early 20s. Luv me a real full size sport sedan. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:24:39 PM EDT
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It's funny, my wife loves them, I hated them when they first came out. After years of looking at them I finally like them. Don't want one, but like how they look now. Same here. BUT! If I wanted a Porsche, I'd get a 911. If I wanted a sedan, I'd get an S63. The Panamera is neither a sports car, nor sedan. It's an amazing machine, but I'll pass. TC |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:29:47 PM EDT
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Thanks. The m5 and m6 have been my dream cars for 30 years. I owned an m3 in my early 20s. Luv me a real full size sport sedan. The older V10's sound GLORIOUS. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:30:20 PM EDT
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A Buddy bought the top of the line Panamera. 550 hp and 0 to 60 in about 3.4 seconds. He did a couple of speed runs using the launch control mode where you stand on the brake and floor the gas to build up turbo boost. Oh my God! I can understand how people with super fast cars can wipe out and kill themselves. This one has four wheel drive and tracked straight but things are happening so fast that if something went wrong I wouldn't have time to react. He took it up to 170 mph before he backed off. I would love to own one myself. It sure would make passing on the freeway fun. You there are people with skills at driving fast . It is on the other hand easy to buy a car and not have the skills to drive it . 
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:32:11 PM EDT
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The older V10's sound GLORIOUS. I agree. My wife's M5 sounded amazing. Until the transmission exploded...that experience took a little shine off the apple. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:33:03 PM EDT
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Haters gonna hate. I like the Panamera.
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:34:39 PM EDT
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I like Porsche. Congrats to your buddy.
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:38:38 PM EDT
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One of the worst looking cars around today. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And ugly as sin while doing it. One of the worst looking cars around today. I wonder how common and strong this opinion would actually be if Top Gear hadn't relentlessly made the point about how ugly they thought the Panamera was. 
My wife actually like the first gen model better than the new second gen. Porsche did send us a very nice hard-cover coffee table book about the new Panamera, hoping to sell us one, no doubt. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:42:05 PM EDT
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There are more attractive Hyundais and Skodas.
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:42:27 PM EDT
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I know a guy who leasing a Panamera. (Apparently nobody actually buys cars that that, they all lease them. Go figure...)
He said it was fun to drive but the whole car was one giant continuous blind spot to the sides and the rear. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:46:40 PM EDT
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A Buddy bought the top of the line Panamera. 550 hp and 0 to 60 in about 3.4 seconds. He did a couple of speed runs using the launch control mode where you stand on the brake and floor the gas to build up turbo boost. Oh my God! I can understand how people with super fast cars can wipe out and kill themselves. This one has four wheel drive and tracked straight but things are happening so fast that if something went wrong I wouldn't have time to react. He took it up to 170 mph before he backed off. I would love to own one myself. It sure would make passing on the freeway fun. You would get used to the acceleration pretty quickly and it wouldn't seem so uncontrollable. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:46:40 PM EDT
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It has twice as many doors as any good, self-respecting Porsche ought to. the non-self-respecting Porsches are the reason you can still buy a new Porsche. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:51:26 PM EDT
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the non-self-respecting Porsches are the reason you can still buy a new Porsche. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It has twice as many doors as any good, self-respecting Porsche ought to. the non-self-respecting Porsches are the reason you can still buy a new Porsche. Exactly. Porsche is profitable because of the re-badged VW and Audi SUVs they sell, not because of 911 sales. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:54:06 PM EDT
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I wonder how common and strong this opinion would actually be if Top Gear hadn't relentlessly made the point about how ugly they thought the Panamera was.
My wife actually like the first gen model better than the new second gen. Porsche did send us a very nice hard-cover coffee table book about the new Panamera, hoping to sell us one, no doubt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And ugly as sin while doing it. One of the worst looking cars around today. I wonder how common and strong this opinion would actually be if Top Gear hadn't relentlessly made the point about how ugly they thought the Panamera was.
My wife actually like the first gen model better than the new second gen. Porsche did send us a very nice hard-cover coffee table book about the new Panamera, hoping to sell us one, no doubt. Yes, Top Gear bashed the looks heavily, but when they test drove it were quite positive in the reviews. A proper two door Porsche is best, but I sure as shit would take a Panamera over many other four door cars if I needed the room and had the spare $$$ |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:57:39 PM EDT
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I wonder how common and strong this opinion would actually be if Top Gear hadn't relentlessly made the point about how ugly they thought the Panamera was.
My wife actually like the first gen model better than the new second gen. Porsche did send us a very nice hard-cover coffee table book about the new Panamera, hoping to sell us one, no doubt. Despite how much they ranted about its looks they went on about how much fun it was to drive. Even Clarkson had to admit it. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:57:56 PM EDT
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Yes, Top Gear bashed the looks heavily, but when they test drove it were quite positive in the reviews. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yes, Top Gear bashed the looks heavily, but when they test drove it were quite positive in the reviews. Driving it is a joy. Quite honestly, unless you are on a track, it is actually a better drive than a 911 - in my opinion. A proper two door Porsche is best, but I sure as shit would take a Panamera over many other four door cars if I needed the room and had the spare $$ It's interesting how practical it can be. With the hatchback and back seats that can lay down, you can actually shove a LOT of crap into it - and the trunk by itself is impressively large. As an aside, the back seats are the most comfortable and luxurious back seat I have ever seen in a car. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 6:58:27 PM EDT
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A Buddy bought the top of the line Panamera. 550 hp and 0 to 60 in about 3.4 seconds. He did a couple of speed runs using the launch control mode where you stand on the brake and floor the gas to build up turbo boost. Oh my God! I can understand how people with super fast cars can wipe out and kill themselves. This one has four wheel drive and tracked straight but things are happening so fast that if something went wrong I wouldn't have time to react. He took it up to 170 mph before he backed off. I would love to own one myself. It sure would make passing on the freeway fun. He parked at a store one day and some fucking punks keyed it, made me sick, he had to ship it out of state to get it repainted, over $30 grand |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 7:02:05 PM EDT
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The spoiler deployment on the new Panamera is a thing of beauty, however I can't get comfortable with the fastback 4-door coupe aesthetic. Second gen much better looking than the first, but that's not saying much. https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1F6MiBQv--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/nxjhkp1pz841domx6217.gif Funny thing is the way the car looks would be just fine.... if it wasn't a Porsche. It just looks out of character for the company, I think that is what makes it offputting to many, myself included. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 7:06:43 PM EDT
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The older V10's sound GLORIOUS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks. The m5 and m6 have been my dream cars for 30 years. I owned an m3 in my early 20s. Luv me a real full size sport sedan. The older V10's sound GLORIOUS. I got to drive a 2009? M5 with a V10 once. Crazy fast! Crazy expensive to maintain or repair, too. But dat V10 howl.... 
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Posted: 1/29/2017 7:09:04 PM EDT
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Funny thing is the way the car looks would be just fine.... if it wasn't a Porsche. Was going to ask if people would like the design if it was another make. I think that thing is gorgeous, and that it is a beautiful 4-door. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 7:10:58 PM EDT
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The Grand Tour had a great segment this week on launch control using a Porsche GT3
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Posted: 1/29/2017 7:15:42 PM EDT
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I dunno. I think it is more of a general issue of a coupe silhouette with four doors. The A7 still looks weird to me but the CLS/M6 GC make it work IMO.
It is a very polarizing body shape, but you do have a point that Porsches tend to have a more unified design aesthetic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Funny thing is the way the car looks would be just fine.... if it wasn't a Porsche. It just looks out of character for the company, I think that is what makes it offputting to many, myself included. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 7:17:58 PM EDT
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The transmission in the V10 was brutal at city speeds. Much more refined on the current generation with the dual-clutch but alas no more V10 NA goodness.
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I got to drive a 2009? M5 with a V10 once. Crazy fast! Crazy expensive to maintain or repair, too. But dat V10 howl.... http://cdn3.teen.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/cash-me-outside-howbow-dah-gif.gif |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 7:26:01 PM EDT
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The Panamera is an amazing car. It is, it is amazingly ugly, but I understand why you have to say what you say.
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Posted: 1/29/2017 7:34:55 PM EDT
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Seems to me that the M6 GC is a better rival for the Panamera. If you are set on the M5 and are looking to purchase new, then wait because the new one is dropping this year. "Dropping"??!!?? LoL |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 7:39:31 PM EDT
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I'd rather buy an rs7
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Posted: 1/29/2017 8:15:23 PM EDT
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It is, it is amazingly ugly, but I understand why you have to say what you say. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Panamera is an amazing car. It is, it is amazingly ugly, but I understand why you have to say what you say. Trust me, my wife does not read ar15.com. It is absolutely incredible to drive. |
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Posted: 1/29/2017 8:19:39 PM EDT
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I guess I'm in the minority. I think they look fantastic.
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