New toy - Winchester 1866 made in 1870 .................

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Posted: 12/17/2016 3:34:46 PM EDT

In the same family since being purchased in 1870.

Uses 44 Rimfire, so won't be firing this one ...............

Seller photos:

Posted: 12/17/2016 3:36:06 PM EDT

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Nice.

I wonder where it has been and what it has seen.

Posted: 12/17/2016 3:39:01 PM EDT

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Probably not a whole lot - original owner was a Tennessee logger from the mid-1860"s.

Handed down: great-grandfather ---> grandfather ----->father----> son.

Son is in his 70's.

Posted: 12/17/2016 3:39:40 PM EDT

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Have it drilled and tapped, and put a nice Barska on it.

Posted: 12/17/2016 3:41:06 PM EDT

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Nice! How much did to you pay if you dont mind

Posted: 12/17/2016 3:43:07 PM EDT

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Very nice.

Posted: 12/17/2016 3:45:00 PM EDT

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Don't want to start a shit-storm, so I'll pass on your request ..................

What's a Reising MG cost these days ....................

Posted: 12/17/2016 3:45:09 PM EDT

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That is really nice!

Posted: 12/17/2016 3:48:00 PM EDT

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Very nice...Hope you find some ammo to shoot on Independence Day...

Posted: 12/17/2016 3:52:20 PM EDT

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Polish out the brass until it's gleaming, chrome the rest and then find a black plastic stock set. That bitch would be tight yo!

Posted: 12/17/2016 3:59:28 PM EDT

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First thing is sand down and refinish the stock. Then reblue it.

Posted: 12/17/2016 4:00:05 PM EDT

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Here's some reasonably priced ammo to go with it. $40/round.

Ammo-one 44 Rimfire

Posted: 12/17/2016 4:07:31 PM EDT

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Ummm....$40 / round, not $.40

Posted: 12/17/2016 4:11:35 PM EDT

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If you can find it cheaper...show me.

Posted: 12/17/2016 4:13:16 PM EDT

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Gorgeous!!!

I wonder how much it cost back in 1870 in today's money. It must have been a pretty high tech piece of machinery at the time.

Posted: 12/17/2016 4:16:56 PM EDT

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Wow.. very nice. Would be cool to put a few rounds through it.

Posted: 12/17/2016 4:23:41 PM EDT

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perfect example of people who don't buy enough ammo.

I cant shoot my gun, cause ammo for it is extinct... they should have bought it cheap and stacked it deep, when they could.

Posted: 12/17/2016 5:10:11 PM EDT

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Wouldn't that suck to buy it and it was a dud.

Posted: 12/17/2016 5:14:04 PM EDT

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Wow that is in good shape, its been well taken care off.

Posted: 12/17/2016 5:15:18 PM EDT

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Please tell us you aren't going to polish the brass frame.

Posted: 12/17/2016 5:19:58 PM EDT

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Looks like you bid to $6500 and reserve was not met. That is a gorgeous rifle and knowing the history makes it more so imho.

Nice purchase!

Posted: 12/17/2016 5:23:37 PM EDT

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I'll probably run a couple of patches down the barrel.

Wipe it down with a lightly oiled cloth and spray it down with Birchwood Casey Baracade.

That's it

Posted: 12/17/2016 5:25:42 PM EDT

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Looks like you bid to $6500 and reserve was not met. That is a gorgeous rifle and knowing the history makes it more so imho.

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Yea, I asked the seller for a "buy now" price and we came to an agreement.

Posted: 12/17/2016 5:29:11 PM EDT

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I've heard that you can put an 1873 bolt in one and shoot 44 center-fire ?????????

Posted: 12/17/2016 5:29:23 PM EDT

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This^
As was mentioned earlier, get some Brasso and shine that baby up. It's a bit dull.

Posted: 12/17/2016 6:16:27 PM EDT

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Very cool.

Posted: 12/17/2016 6:22:49 PM EDT

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Here's some reasonably priced ammo to go with it. $40/round.

Ammo-one 44 Rimfire

Ummm....$40 / round, not $.40

I hear its not so bad if you reload.

Posted: 12/17/2016 6:23:53 PM EDT

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Nice, high condition, 3rd model carbine. Only about 127,000 carbines made and I doubt very few are still in that condition.

You did well.

Posted: 12/17/2016 6:25:27 PM EDT

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Nice looking, I have an 1873 in 38-40 cal.

Posted: 12/17/2016 6:33:31 PM EDT

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If you can find it cheaper...show me.

I've heard that you can put an 1873 bolt in one and shoot 44 center-fire ?????????

Something like that absolutely could be done. The only issue is that the firing pin is off-set, to hit the rim instead of the center, and that is built into the bolt. Other than that, center fire or rim fire, there is no difference: the hammer whacks the back of the firing pin the same in either case. Have a center fire bolt fitted, keep the orig, of course, and have fun with some low-powered, BP loads.

ETA: ask around in the Cowboy Action Shooting forums. Someone will know of a gunsmith that can do the work.

Posted: 12/17/2016 6:44:08 PM EDT

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What?

Posted: 12/17/2016 6:46:35 PM EDT

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I hear its not so bad if you reload.

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He's pulling your leg.

Posted: 12/17/2016 6:48:08 PM EDT

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might want to check this out, used by museums

Renaissance Wax

Posted: 12/17/2016 6:54:44 PM EDT

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Posted: 12/17/2016 6:56:57 PM EDT

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Grip pod, gripzone it! Cerakote muddy girl, and some molle cordura attachments, or just make it into a lamp

Posted: 12/17/2016 7:53:40 PM EDT

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Nice rifle.

Posted: 12/17/2016 8:16:55 PM EDT

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That would be sacrilege!

He should SBR it and put an AR stock and grip on it with at least 4 rails on the front of it!

Posted: 12/17/2016 9:55:27 PM EDT

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there was a thread about this the other day.

Posted: 12/17/2016 10:10:56 PM EDT

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Yeah, that old-school wood furniture, tho.

Needs moar Tapco.

Posted: 12/17/2016 10:18:21 PM EDT

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That would be sacrilege!

He should SBR it and put an AR stock and grip on it with at least 4 rails on the front of it!

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Thread the barrel for a suppressor too

Posted: 12/17/2016 10:20:18 PM EDT

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You can find a sling and some studs on Amazon.

Posted: 12/17/2016 10:20:54 PM EDT

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Of course!!!

Posted: 12/17/2016 10:31:20 PM EDT

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And have that thing reblued, the receiver looks almost brass.

Maybe ceracote it?

Posted: 12/17/2016 10:37:26 PM EDT

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Something like that absolutely could be done. The only issue is that the firing pin is off-set, to hit the rim instead of the center, and that is built into the bolt. Other than that, center fire or rim fire, there is no difference: the hammer whacks the back of the firing pin the same in either case. Have a center fire bolt fitted, keep the orig, of course, and have fun with some low-powered, BP loads.

ETA: ask around in the Cowboy Action Shooting forums. Someone will know of a gunsmith that can do the work.

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If you can find it cheaper...show me.

I've heard that you can put an 1873 bolt in one and shoot 44 center-fire ?????????

Something like that absolutely could be done. The only issue is that the firing pin is off-set, to hit the rim instead of the center, and that is built into the bolt. Other than that, center fire or rim fire, there is no difference: the hammer whacks the back of the firing pin the same in either case. Have a center fire bolt fitted, keep the orig, of course, and have fun with some low-powered, BP loads.

ETA: ask around in the Cowboy Action Shooting forums. Someone will know of a gunsmith that can do the work.

Thats exactly what I would do. As long as there's no permanent changes to the gun and original parts, it's a win-win

Posted: 12/18/2016 11:09:40 AM EDT

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You guys laugh, but rimfire reloading is a thing. There are people out there doing handloads of .44 rimfire. .22LR kits are easily available.

Reload your .22LR!

I know that Handloader magazine did an issue on reloading the .44 rimfire. Might be worth looking into.

Posted: 12/18/2016 11:23:25 AM EDT

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You guys laugh, but rimfire reloading is a thing. There are people out there doing handloads of .44 rimfire. .22LR kits are easily available.

Reload your .22LR!

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That's a lot of effort to save a penny.

Posted: 12/18/2016 11:33:27 AM EDT

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Beautiful score op!

Posted: 12/18/2016 11:37:54 AM EDT

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Yeah, no way would I do it with .22LR. But for obsolete rimfires like the OP's, it can begin to make sense.

Either way. Very nice rifle OP. Any reason why they were selling it? No heir (or worthy heir)? I would be hard pressed to let something like that leave the family.