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Posted: 12/17/2016 4:31:53 AM EDT
Together almost 20yrs. Have 4 great kids. One minute I'm great. Next I'm a heartless bastard. She tried to argue that I don't love her. I have put up with her crap 20yrs. That proves it. Then she says I only stick with it because it is the right thing to do. Not that I love her. I can't win.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:33:38 AM EDT
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Sorry brother but they are all the same
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:34:35 AM EDT
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It's a gender thing.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:35:47 AM EDT
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Its called a shit test. 
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:41:03 AM EDT
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My wife has called me heartless for years. I don't love her etc...   Oh and I spoil the kids and not her.  I think it's hormones or something.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:42:36 AM EDT
[#5]
Last night must have been a long, drag out argument if you came on this late to ask why. Sorry for you having to go through that. Fortunately when I was there there were no kids involved. Hope you can work it out.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:44:06 AM EDT
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She gets mad at me because she just knows I would cheat given the right chance. Not that I did ever but I might. How fair is that. Anyone might do the wrong thing if it was tempting enough. I never had sisters and my dad was the ass in the house. Never knew it was so hard to just be cool and content
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 4:50:11 AM EDT
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Her grandma died a week ago. It doesn't help she drinks 6 beers most nights.  You just can't work your way through stuff that doesn't make sense.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:03:04 AM EDT
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She sounds like a live wire. Those are some seriously asinine accusations. 
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:06:17 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:07:33 AM EDT
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After 23 years, happily divorced for 3 years. Should've dumped her 10 years ago. She remarried almost immediately to some poor dumb SOB.

Now a crazy X girlfriend I broke up with was calling and texting late last night, after I dumped her crazy ass last August.

Alone with just me and my dog ain't too bad. Not too bad at all.  

Picking up my new Shield 45 today. :)
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:08:58 AM EDT
[#11]
Mine has been accusing me of cheating since day one, you're lucky.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:13:22 AM EDT
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Other than these crazy spells there is a lot of good. She doesn't blow money. Never wants much. Let's me do what I want. Is not the type to cheat. Has kept in decent shape.  I don't think I could do better but sometimes I would like to try.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:23:00 AM EDT
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The grass always seems greener on the other side but remember you still need to cut it.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:34:10 AM EDT
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Yes. I know a lot of guys that would gladly trade.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:49:33 AM EDT
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Don't start drinking. Just trying to cheer you up

Dirty Work - There Is Always Beer
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:53:08 AM EDT
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This man has the answers you seek.

Link Posted: 12/17/2016 5:56:30 AM EDT
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Sure is.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 6:00:32 AM EDT
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another fpni
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 6:38:58 AM EDT
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I let stuff roll off my back. I don't argue over stupid shit. I'm married 19 years with two teenage daughters. I get it from all sides. Nitpicking.  It drives them more nuts when I refuse to escalate anything.
All women are like this. "We are emotionally divorced."  My wife told me that once. What on god's green earth does that even mean??
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 6:39:30 AM EDT
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This man has the answers you seek.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 6:46:39 AM EDT
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Aunt Flow show up for visit? + Christmas shopping, work stress, husband / kids dragging mud through house....

It happens. All wives hate their husbands for a little while. Get a big fat gift vcertificate to one of those lady spas and drop her off for the day.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 10:57:42 AM EDT
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My mother calls it woman-o-stop, rather than men-o-pause.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:13:11 AM EDT
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Other than these crazy spells there is a lot of good. She doesn't blow money. Never wants much. Let's me do what I want. Is not the type to cheat. Has kept in decent shape.  I don't think I could do better but sometimes I would like to try.
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FYI, based on your glowing review of her I can see why she apparently feels the love and passion is lacking.  

She needs to cut that drinking out.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 11:57:11 AM EDT
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A & A
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:08:35 PM EDT
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FYI, based on your glowing review of her I can see why she apparently feels the love and passion is lacking.  <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_rofl.gif border=0 align=middle>

She needs to cut that drinking out.
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Other than these crazy spells there is a lot of good. She doesn't blow money. Never wants much. Let's me do what I want. Is not the type to cheat. Has kept in decent shape.  I don't think I could do better but sometimes I would like to try.



FYI, based on your glowing review of her I can see why she apparently feels the love and passion is lacking.  <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_rofl.gif border=0 align=middle>

She needs to cut that drinking out.


The delivery was all wrong and he left out a few other key items to a truly successful marriage. But all quality traits with the modern American married woman. Greed, infidelity, and gluttony run rampant in today's society.

If you took out the money problems, wife banged so and so, or she quit trying and got hella fat, what else could possibly go wrong in a marriage? I mean, OPs sounds like he has this all completely figured out.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:19:25 PM EDT
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It probably has something to do with the absence of a Y chromosome.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:22:01 PM EDT
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It's in the owner's manual.  Sorry.


ETA:  The troubleshooting section is utterly worthless.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:24:28 PM EDT
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FPNI again

- Jaded 56 y/o lifelong bachelor that has met and been with them all (not that some of them weren't fun for a while )
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:32:24 PM EDT
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Together almost 20yrs. Have 4 great kids. One minute I'm great. Next I'm a heartless bastard. She tried to argue that I don't love her. I have put up with her crap 20yrs. That proves it. Then she says I only stick with it because it is the right thing to do. Not that I love her. I can't win.
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Did you miss Dude 101 class?

That is her saying in womanese language that she wants your attention.
Movie....nice
Dinner.....nice

Thugfuckin"......that's what she's sayin' and wanting in womanese language. She wants to be desirable as she was 20 yrs  & 4 kids ago.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:38:48 PM EDT
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If it wasn't for the vagina they'd all have been hunted to extinction years ago
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:42:38 PM EDT
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I mean, if you're going to catch shit for cheating you're not doing, you may as well catch shit for cheating you are doing.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:43:48 PM EDT
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Proverbs 21:19

It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.
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Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:44:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:48:02 PM EDT
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Together almost 20yrs. Have 4 great kids. One minute I'm great. Next I'm a heartless bastard. She tried to argue that I don't love her. I have put up with her crap 20yrs. That proves it. Then she says I only stick with it because it is the right thing to do. Not that I love her. I can't win.
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Sorry, man.

At about 15-20 years in, a lot of women do this.  It's their mid-life crisis.

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Did you miss Dude 101 class?

That is her saying in womanese language that she wants your attention.
Movie....nice
Dinner.....nice

Thugfuckin"......that's what she's sayin' and wanting in womanese language. She wants to be desirable as she was 20 yrs  & 4 kids ago.
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The problem comes when what they want is unrealistic.... "I want to look like I did 20 years ago, but I don't want to eat better and exercise" type of thing.  Then they sit their and spew all of their anger and frustration with themselves out on you, but nothing you can do will work, because the person they're really unhappy with themselves.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:49:35 PM EDT
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I let stuff roll off my back. I don't argue over stupid shit. I'm married 19 years with two teenage daughters. I get it from all sides. Nitpicking.  It drives them more nuts when I refuse to escalate anything.
All women are like this. "We are emotionally divorced."  My wife told me that once. What on god's green earth does that even mean??
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It means she doesn't respect you as a husband/man,  but she's too financially and materialistically comfortable to leave you.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:52:41 PM EDT
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A six pack every night; how much does she drink between breakfast and dinner?

I'm tolerant, mostly too tolerant, but I would have cut that off years ago.
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I was thinking that too. That's a red flag right there.

Also in the realm of physical problems - don't negate the power of monthly hormones and menopause. As much as it sucks to be married to someone having hormone swings it also  really sucks to BE that person having the swings.
Frankly, if reincarnation is true I am NEVER coming back as female again. Its truly terrible when you feel like you are on fire, like you have ants crawling on your skin and your emotions go from hysterical laughing to sobbbing in 15 minutes. Its torture and it can go on daily for YEARS, and a little compassion from those around goes a long way.  

It helps if the female of the pair can explain herself in rational terms.   A simple rational and calm  explanation of how/why I am feeling a certain way has helped a lot.  It doesn't always resolve things but at least both sides know where the other is coming from without a lot of drama .

Try sitting down and talking to her when she's not acting crazed.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 12:54:13 PM EDT
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I must've gotten a broken one.

been married 12 years, and I put her through a lot of unnecessary shit for four of those, with multiple infidelities, alcohol abuse, and a general poor attitude.

She's still super loving and supportive, a great mother, and tries to improve herself every day.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:00:35 PM EDT
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The delivery was all wrong and he left out a few other key items to a truly successful marriage. But all quality traits with the modern American married woman. Greed, infidelity, and gluttony run rampant in today's society.

If you took out the money problems, wife banged so and so, or she quit trying and got hella fat, what else could possibly go wrong in a marriage? I mean, OPs sounds like he has this all completely figured out.
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Nobody wants someone who's with them just because they aren't horrible.  

Like these videos that get shared praising people for doing, literally the bare minimum, things one should do as a decent human being.  There was one recently about a dad sitting in his car crying about how happy and proud his little girl was that he came to her daddy and daughter breakfast at school.  It was like a fucking revelation to him that doing what he SHOULD be doing anyway is what really matters.  The thousands of comments holding him up as father of the year and a great man were just ridiculous.  That's how low the standards have gotten for people.  No wonder everybody feels like they're God's gift to everyone else.  

Sorry for the tangent.  

OP. the only thing I know for sure about your wife is that she drinks too much.  Everything else could be her fault, could be your fault but it's probably a combination of both.  

Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:01:53 PM EDT
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That's hilarious
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:05:44 PM EDT
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She gets mad at me because she just knows I would cheat given the right chance. Not that I did ever but I might. How fair is that. Anyone might do the wrong thing if it was tempting enough. I never had sisters and my dad was the ass in the house. Never knew it was so hard to just be cool and content
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Sorry bro, you're on your own on that one.

Never ever though of cheating on my wife.........ever.

I appreciate hot women and I enjoy talking to them, but I'd never fuck another woman unless I was single.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:06:20 PM EDT
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That is some truth on fire.
Yes sir ...hormones.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:10:00 PM EDT
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She conditioning you for a pegging

Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:14:49 PM EDT
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Nobody wants someone who's with them just because they aren't horrible.  <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle>

Like these videos that get shared praising people for doing, literally the bare minimum, things one should do as a decent human being.  There was one recently about a dad sitting in his car crying about how happy and proud his little girl was that he came to her daddy and daughter breakfast at school.  It was like a fucking revelation to him that doing what he SHOULD be doing anyway is what really matters.  The thousands of comments holding him up as father of the year and a great man were just ridiculous.  That's how low the standards have gotten for people.  No wonder everybody feels like they're God's gift to everyone else.  

Sorry for the tangent.  

OP. the only thing I know for sure about your wife is that she drinks too much.  Everything else could be her fault, could be your fault but it's probably a combination of both.  
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The delivery was all wrong and he left out a few other key items to a truly successful marriage. But all quality traits with the modern American married woman. Greed, infidelity, and gluttony run rampant in today's society.

If you took out the money problems, wife banged so and so, or she quit trying and got hella fat, what else could possibly go wrong in a marriage? I mean, OPs sounds like he has this all completely figured out.



Nobody wants someone who's with them just because they aren't horrible.  <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif border=0 align=middle>

Like these videos that get shared praising people for doing, literally the bare minimum, things one should do as a decent human being.  There was one recently about a dad sitting in his car crying about how happy and proud his little girl was that he came to her daddy and daughter breakfast at school.  It was like a fucking revelation to him that doing what he SHOULD be doing anyway is what really matters.  The thousands of comments holding him up as father of the year and a great man were just ridiculous.  That's how low the standards have gotten for people.  No wonder everybody feels like they're God's gift to everyone else.  

Sorry for the tangent.  

OP. the only thing I know for sure about your wife is that she drinks too much.  Everything else could be her fault, could be your fault but it's probably a combination of both.  


I'm not all that horrible as a husband and parent (in my professional unbiased opinion)... Where is my award?

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Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:14:56 PM EDT
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"How do I know you love me?"

Because I would have cashed in my retirement and disappeared years ago if I didn't
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:16:34 PM EDT
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I'm not all that horrible as a husband and parent (in my professional unbiased opinion)... Where is my award?

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I'll take burritos for being mediocre.  That's a pretty good deal.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:18:14 PM EDT
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The menopause.  She has it.

If......if you can stick it out the crazy levels off on the other side.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:22:09 PM EDT
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After 20 years of a job and a wife, which one sill sucks ?
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:25:04 PM EDT
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this..... and I am nearing the summit with my SO. I can see the promised land not too far away now
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:26:27 PM EDT
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No, they're not. OP is it menopause? Does she need some HRT?  Hormones are powerful stuff.
Link Posted: 12/17/2016 1:27:14 PM EDT
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She's an alcoholic - stop drinking.
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