How Do You Feel About The Mods And Staff At AR15.Com Over The Past 2 Years?

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Posted: 7/3/2003 2:02:42 PM EDT

Personally I think they have become quite a bit too PC and a bit excessive with the locked topics and banning of people. It seems a mod or two cant keep their finger off the Lock/Ban button. The mods should have their leash yanked a bit. Quite a few of the so called questionable topics seem to be a backlash against the mods. If they would just ease up a tad things could be alright. IMO this site is going down hill.

My .02

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:09:26 PM EDT

[#1]

Do you think your opinion has anything to do with the respones you get from your negative and often times insulting posts?

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:10:36 PM EDT

[#2]

IBTL.

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:15:28 PM EDT

[#3]

Well, 1776, that's what makes horse races....differences of opinion.

I think they do a great job. I like the rules here. I think they serve a good purpose. And seeing the stuff that gets locked, I have never, that's right, never, seen a lock that I thought was wrong.

If you don't like the rules, start your own site.

And, as someone recently said, don't let the url hit you in the back.

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:22:44 PM EDT

[#4]

Feel free to discuss this with the boss.
His name is EdAvilaSr and he happens to be home right now.

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:26:39 PM EDT

[#5]

I think overall they have done an outstanding job of enforcing the rules set by the private owner of this board, and have to deal with a lot of needless crap.
I am honored to be [red]allowed[/red] to post here, as I sure as heck dont have a [red]right[/red] to. I think too many forget that. This is not a govt owned place. You have no rights here, other than those given by the owner. No different than if you were physically in his house. He doesnt HAVE to let you be here. He can make whatever rules he wants. You either abide by them, or exercise your right to go somewhere else with rules more to your liking. No one forces anyone else to be here.

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:28:59 PM EDT

[#6]

seems like some people just LIKE to get shoed in the nuts. ask natalie maines, she knows all about it. shoot yourself in the foot then reload and do it again.

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:34:06 PM EDT

[#7]

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Personally I think they have become quite a bit too PC...

IMO this site is going down hill.

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[b]1776
Member
Registered: Jun 2003
Posts: 67 of 68[/b]

Sooooo... what name did you USED to post under?

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:35:12 PM EDT

[#8]

They all suck................me included [smoke]

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:35:57 PM EDT

[#9]

You registered last month, have 68 posts, and are giving opinions about the past two years? Hmm... [?]

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:36:09 PM EDT

[#10]

Well, thanks for letting me into your house. I think I'll plop down here in the leather Barcalounger and put my feet up on the antique coffee table. Is that your wife? Woohoo, she's got a helluva rack on her, don't she? What color panties does she have on under them jeans? Hey honey, got get me a cold beer, will you? What is this? Keystone Light? You expect me to drink this crap??!! Sure, I know it's free and all, but come on! Hey, I know you're watching the game, but put on channel 5. Access Hollywood is about to start. Is that your daughter? Hmmm. Hey darlin' come and sit on my lap.

What do you mean watch my mouth?
What do you mean get my feet off the table?
What do you mean get my hands off your women?
What do you mean get outta your chair?
What do you mean change the channel back?

Yeah, I know this is your house, but you got some nerve, pal!!

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:36:09 PM EDT

[#11]

Well I have heard the same thing before. I have never had any problems but I not the kind of guy that tells people to "take a lap around my sack."(sometimes your just too much,Mark[:D]) One thing I did find strange was the removal of all racy female avatars,because people get in trouble at [red]WORK[/red] for viewing them. I guess I'm missing something with the [red]WORK[/red] thing. It is not my site to run and to tell you the truth I'm not sure I would want the job anyway,judging by some of the clowns you see pass thru here. There are a lot of sites you can go to for the pissing matches,let me know if you need directions,good luck in your travels.

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:36:49 PM EDT

[#12]

To tell you the truth we have had an influx of new members,therefoir with the samne amount of Mods, they have more of a workload and are going to be locking more threads than before.

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:40:56 PM EDT

[#13]

i think they do a hella good job..i mean there is sum controversy on here sumtimes and they do fine in monitoring. considering there are a gazillion ppl registered here.

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:46:09 PM EDT

[#14]

care to elaborate on some specifics?

I admit i have locked a few that were borderline. The times i did it i was frankly tired of the crap. Mods get several im's a day complaining about this post or that. At first i tried to reason, i quickly found out that a nice reasoned reply was generaly not what i got in response. I usually wait until i get a response from the offending poster. Or at least a few hours after i im them before locking.

Sometimes it can't wait. ie.. personal threats etc. If folks would behave themselves locking threads wouldn't be needed.

On a side note i have zero problems with someone restarting a locked thread. so long as the new one stays within the CC. Sometimes all it takes is one asshole to ruin a good discussion. A restart without the offending moron can continue.

I also have no problem discussing a lock. If i jump the gun and you can prove your case i would be happy to admit a bad lock and reopen a thread. So far no one has even asked. Therefore i am assuming no one has taken issue.

mike

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:46:46 PM EDT

[#15]

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[b]1776
Member
Registered: Jun 2003
Posts: 67 of 68[/b]

Sooooo... what name did you USED to post under?

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Heheheheh. Good one.

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:47:48 PM EDT

[#16]

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Personally I think they have become quite a bit too PC and a bit excessive with the locked topics and banning of people. It seems a mod or two cant keep their finger off the Lock/Ban button. The mods should have their leash yanked a bit. Quite a few of the so called questionable topics seem to be a backlash against the mods. If they would just ease up a tad things could be alright. IMO this site is going down hill.

My .02

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[b] No seriously , tell us how you really feel ?

IBTL [):)][/b]

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:50:17 PM EDT

[#17]

As for the avatar rule i really think that had more to do with goatboy's employer than anything else. From what i understand he was allowed to work on the site from work but his boss was nervous about the girlie pics on the company systems.

I consider it a fair decision considering all the work he puts in around here.

mike

ps..... i still miss the sexy avatars also.

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:51:45 PM EDT

[#18]

I think most of you are missing the point. Its irrefutable that a few of the mods are a bit over zealous. I also don't think anyone has a "RIGHT" to post here. That being said the point I am trying to make is the questionable activity that has been going on that gets topics locked or menbers banned is a result of the "ATTITUDE" of a select few staff/mods.
I don't hate this place, just a bit disappointed is all. Things could EASILY be better with minimal effort.

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:54:15 PM EDT

[#19]

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...i still miss the sexy avatars also.

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You're not the only one.

Posted: 7/3/2003 2:57:03 PM EDT

[#20]

ok let me ask again. Give some specifics. I am more than willing to discuss this and maybe we can actually make things better.

Give me some threads you objected to or banned members you think were wronged?

mike

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:02:47 PM EDT

[#21]

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ok let me ask again. Give some specifics. I am more than willing to discuss this and maybe we can actually make things better.

Give me some threads you objected to or banned members you think were wronged?

mike

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There are no specifics. Just the general feeling of the board compared to what is was a year or so ago and what it is now. We are all well aware of the recent rash of locked topics and such.

I am of the opinion that some of the mods seem to be a bit quick and heavy handed is all.
A bit of a power trip for lack of a better term. Its really not a big deal I was just wondering how some of the regular guys felt. Be honest is all. This is a good place but surly you cant think its perfect. Lets hear your gripes.

This is meant to help the site not tear it down.

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:07:03 PM EDT

[#22]

RichardCranium

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:07:21 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
Personally I think they have become quite a bit too PC and a bit excessive with the locked topics and banning of people. It seems a mod or two cant keep their finger off the Lock/Ban button. The mods should have their leash yanked a bit. Quite a few of the so called questionable topics seem to be a backlash against the mods. If they would just ease up a tad things could be alright. IMO this site is going down hill.

My .02

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I agree completely. Hopefully it will get better before it gets worse... (although, we'll probably both be banned before then)

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:16:24 PM EDT

[#24]

This is the best site on the net.

As for your $0.02

I think they feel out of the change bag when DeNiro was making his getaway in HEAT.

IBTL
+1

ED

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:17:10 PM EDT

[#25]

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RichardCranium

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Huh...?

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:17:42 PM EDT

[#26]

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I think most of you are missing the point. Its irrefutable that a few of the mods are a bit over zealous.

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I'm not sure I agree with this. There is a pretty clear set of guidelines in the code of conduct. When a thread is locked, in most cases it is pretty apparent why it was shut down. Just because you don't personally agree with the locking of a certain topic does necessitate that the mod that pulled the trigger is over zealous.

Is it possible that the mods that you think are over zealous might just be doing a better job of adhering to the code of conduct, and that your problem isn't really with them, but with the rules in general?

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:18:19 PM EDT

[#27]

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...I am trying to make is the questionable activity that has been going on that gets topics locked or [red]menbers[/red] banned is a result of the "ATTITUDE" of a select few staff/mods....

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WTF is a menber?

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:18:45 PM EDT

[#28]

i agree with the a liitle to pc for my taste as well. But i have a CC to follow and that dictates what is locked.

As for having a power trip, i'd seriously doubt it. The current mods we have in GD are a good bunch of guys. We usually post in the mod forums when we lock a thread so the other mods will be aware of what happened. I have not seen one yet that wasn't locked for a reason.

When a thread degenerates into a pissing match or a race war what would you prefer we do? I have watched other staff and mods edit an individuals posts in an effort to keep the thread alive. This usually lasts 3-4 more posts and then gets locked as no one seems to get the hint.

Don't lump all staff and mods into one category. We all will let things slide to a point. some are more strict than others but thats life.

I for one have NO problem with anyone calling me on the mat for something i do here. i am not perfect and like everyone else will make a mistake.

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:19:55 PM EDT

[#29]

They're doing a fine job.

Now listen Rookie...go sit on the bench for a while and spend some time watching some pros at work. Maybe you'll LEARN a bit about your fellow man...like NO WHINING!

We are a small society made up of a several hundred members with generally common interests. In any society, certain rules are necessary to ensure the continued, well ordered existance of that society. Spend a minute or two reading some of the Code of Hammurabi or ancient Roman Law and you'll see what I mean. Since there are among us those who would destroy for the mere amusement of doing so, we need those nasty rules or we get anarchy. Believe it or not, I don't agree with all of the [rather anal] rules we live under here...but then I've seen what happens with certain of our bomb-thrower members decide to rant off and do evil on this web site.

The Avilas and the mods do a good job overall. If you don't like it here...other neat sites are just a mouse click away! [;D]

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:23:18 PM EDT

[#30]

I dont think the mods are on a power trip. They obviously have to enforce the rules. Maybe you should focus the post on the rules and not the people that have agreed to make sure we follow them.

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:23:28 PM EDT

[#31]

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Now listen Rookie...go sit on the bench for a while and spend some time watching some pros at work. Maybe you'll LEARN a bit about your fellow man...like NO WHINING!

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Your pathetic!! Do you even READ before you post?

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:51:31 PM EDT

[#32]

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RichardCranium

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Huh...?

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Richard=Dick
Cranium=Head

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:54:41 PM EDT

[#33]

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Things could EASILY be better with minimal effort.

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I didn't bother reading all the posts in this garbage thread, but I will say this:

Nobody is stopping you from getting a server and hosting your own perfect little web site :)

Posted: 7/3/2003 3:58:36 PM EDT

[#34]

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I dont think the mods are on a power trip. They obviously have to enforce the rules. Maybe you should focus the post on the rules and not the people that have agreed to make sure we follow them.

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Exactly.

I've been here for about four years including the old board. I can't remember a stretch of more than three months when someone wasn't complaining about the mods. This place isn't going down hill, it is exactly the same as it ever was. We go through cycles, but that is normal. Though there have been a few lockings I've thought questionable, I think the mods do a pretty good job for the most parts. Like anything in life: you take the good and dismiss the bad. If the bad outweighs the good, move on. Life goes a lot easier that way. [:)]

Posted: 7/3/2003 4:00:12 PM EDT

[#35]

Yeah that EdSr guy really chaps my hide...
He let me come to HIS site and hang out...
The whole time learning about a great weapon and meeting some nice guys.
The kicker and the straw that broke the camels back is that it was all offered for...
FREE..........
That darn EdSr guy...
He makes me wanna buy a membership or something.

Posted: 7/3/2003 4:13:41 PM EDT

[#36]

Did I say something bad?[;)]
edited to add:
Whatsamatter 1776? Your boss at Micky Dee's yell at you or sumpin?

Posted: 7/3/2003 4:20:31 PM EDT

[#37]

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RichardCranium

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Huh...?

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Richard=Dick
Cranium=Head

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I was responding. Click my "User Info"...

Posted: 7/3/2003 4:20:48 PM EDT

[#38]

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Now listen Rookie...go sit on the bench for a while and spend some time watching some pros at work. Maybe you'll LEARN a bit about your fellow man...like NO WHINING!

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You[red]'[/red]r[red]e[/red] pathetic!! Do you even READ before you post?

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Do you proofread before you post?

Look, no one here is on a powertrip. EdSr would kick their ass to the curb if they were. Most people come here to have a good time and share an interest, as well as drop in on the GD forum and talk a little smack and discuss air conditioning, tipping, turbocharger vs supercharger and topics like that. Occasionally we get some nazi punk crawling out of the woodwork, or some dummy posts someone's personal information, but there's a code of conduct here that says they can't, and everyone knows it. This isn't hardcoretalk.com where anything goes. People here want to be able to let their kids and wives on here without worrying about what they'll be exposed to. Why would you come to someone else's website, where the [b][i]vast[/i][/b] majority of the membership likes it the way it is, and cry about some perceived megalomania on the part of the people who run the place?

As has already been said, if you don't like the way this place is run, feel free to start your own forum or find another you do like.

Posted: 7/3/2003 4:28:16 PM EDT

[#39]

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There are no specifics. Just the general feeling of the board compared to what is was a year or so ago and what it is now. We are all well aware of the recent rash of locked topics and such.

I am of the opinion that some of the mods seem to be a bit quick and heavy handed is all.
A bit of a power trip for lack of a better term. Its really not a big deal I was just wondering how some of the regular guys felt. Be honest is all. This is a good place but surly you cant think its perfect. Lets hear your gripes.

This is meant to help the site not tear it down.

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You are entitled to your opinion, and have the ability to post it here. Unlike you, who chooses to hide behind a fake moniker, and refuses to get specific, most of us stand by our words and deeds every day. If you are seriously trying to help the site, then do this: name names, and give examples. I don't give a damn who you really are, but to come here with a new account and wax poetic over the "good old days" of two years ago is silly and makes you look like an imbecile. We are adults and can take a little constructive criticism. You will NOT have your account(s) locked for posting in the manner you have in this thread. You have my word on that. You can even gain at least a modicum of respect if you have the balls to provide names and examples. We are here doing our best every day. If we can improve anything, for the benefit of the membership, then we are all ears. If you just want to piss and moan, and refuse to be more specific, then I'd refer you to the excellent posts by [b]Jarhead_22[/b] above.

Posted: 7/3/2003 4:31:09 PM EDT

[#40]

... They are the best, they [b]ROCK[/b]!

Posted: 7/3/2003 4:33:34 PM EDT

[#41]

[b]This is a good place but surly you cant think its perfect. Lets hear your gripes.[/b]

They may be surly but they are nearly perfect otherwise.

Posted: 7/3/2003 4:40:00 PM EDT

[#42]

and what about the staff? have to watch that beekeepeer guy, he is merciless. he almost had to yell at me once

seriuously, the mods and staff have a shithouse full of duties and responsibilities. they are human ( i hear) and have to do all of them in their free time. doens't leave much time for them to do their own thing. eat dinner with wives/ loved ones, spend time with friends, family, girlfriends, or both. i have met tbk1's wife and if i where married to her, last thing i would be doing is hanging on a puter after work into the middle of the night babysitting whinning middle aged computer comando's

no matter what every day, even if they don't want to go online they have a responsibility of checking this site. reading every post, answering im's and e mails from members.
seems to me it would be a major pain in the ass. and no one wants to cut them some slack.... seems to me they are fair and will give everyone a chance to justify themselves.
when they lock a thread or trash it, its to give them breathing room to consider what action should be taken.

just my opinion, what the hell do i know, just a biker dude with a blue hand that has learned a lot abbout a lot of things since comming here. and i appreciate the site,

and i want to say thanks to the mods and staff and ed and gb for putting up with all the bs.

Posted: 7/3/2003 4:40:05 PM EDT

[#43]

frankly, i suck.

i've locked 2, maybe 3 threads and even had the unmitigated gall to ask guys to edit their own posts.

Posted: 7/3/2003 4:49:37 PM EDT

[#44]

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frankly, i suck.

i've locked 2, maybe 3 threads and even had the unmitigated gall to ask guys to edit their own posts.

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You [b]do[/b] suck! You totally need to step up production, Campy! You're falling behind. How is the MightyModeratorMafia going to keep the fear of God instilled in the peasants with you slacking like that!?? [:(!]

Aw geeze, maybe I should have sent this in an IM..... [:O]

Posted: 7/3/2003 4:52:22 PM EDT

[#45]

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I think overall they have done an outstanding job of enforcing the rules set by the private owner of this board, and have to deal with a lot of needless crap.
I am honored to be [red]allowed[/red] to post here, as I sure as heck dont have a [red]right[/red] to. I think too many forget that. This is not a govt owned place. You have no rights here, other than those given by the owner. No different than if you were physically in his house. He doesnt HAVE to let you be here. He
can make whatever rules he wants. You either abide by them, or exercise your right to go somewhere else with rules more to your liking.
No one forces anyone else to be here.

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Well put.Ditto for me.

Posted: 7/3/2003 4:53:57 PM EDT

[#46]

Every single one of them is a "RED DIAPER DOPER BABY!"

theBEEKEEPER excluded!

Posted: 7/3/2003 5:04:58 PM EDT

[#47]

IMNSHO:

They are like a good boss at work....unless something is wrong, they don't screw with it.

No micromanaging here, that's why I like AR15.com so much. [:D]

Posted: 7/3/2003 5:06:44 PM EDT

[#48]

As for the avatar rule i really think that had more to do with goatboy's employer than anything else. From what i understand he was allowed to work on the site from work but his boss was nervous about the girlie pics on the company systems.

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Well that makes sense, stupid me was thinking it was just members siting around at work surf'n the web... Cnatra,I sure miss you.[;)]