Mission to Africa: Are we going to Liberia?

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Posted: 7/3/2003 11:48:34 AM EDT

CNN:
C. Rice in press conference: "President has made no decision on Liberia yet, but is considering his options. Bush believes stability important for Africa. We have historical special relationship with Liberia. Charles Taylor source of problems, needs to leave Liberia."
Marines now in Spain for possible mission.

Posted: 7/3/2003 11:54:09 AM EDT

[#1]

I'd say there is a good chance.

Posted: 7/3/2003 12:01:04 PM EDT

[#2]

I sure hope not, but the State Department doesn't pay much attention to my recommendations anyway. <>

Posted: 7/3/2003 12:15:12 PM EDT

[#3]

[b]BIG mistake[/b] if we do

Posted: 7/3/2003 12:18:40 PM EDT

[#4]

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[b]BIG mistake[/b] if we do

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ditto.

GW thinks he is going to win black voters with this and his AIDS initiative. Blacks won't vote for him anyway but some good men will probably die and this country will be worse off for the effort.

GW seems to have learned little from his father's attemtps at liberal appeasement.

Posted: 7/3/2003 12:29:16 PM EDT

[#5]

God forbid.

Posted: 7/3/2003 12:33:47 PM EDT

[#6]

There is NO reason we should be going there.

Posted: 7/3/2003 12:35:37 PM EDT

[#7]

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[b]BIG mistake[/b] if we do

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ditto.

GW thinks he is going to win black voters with this and his AIDS initiative. Blacks won't vote for him anyway but some good men will probably die and this country will be worse off for the effort.

GW seems to have learned little from his father's attemtps at liberal appeasement.

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Gotta agree with you on this one! It all stinks to high heaven!!

Posted: 7/3/2003 12:36:13 PM EDT

[#8]

Those people over in that 3rd world shithole aren't worth the life of ONE of our soldiers[V]

Posted: 7/3/2003 12:37:19 PM EDT

[#9]

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There is NO reason we should be going there.

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War on Terror my man!

Regime CHANGE!

This tyrant is brutalizing the people!

Posted: 7/3/2003 12:52:11 PM EDT

[#10]

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There is NO reason we should be going there.

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War on Terror my man!

Regime CHANGE!

This tyrant is brutalizing the people!

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I hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise, you've swallowed the the BS before it was even uttered. (Unless, of course, those are the so-called reasons all the talking heads are already spouting.)

Anyways, I [i]hope[/i] we don't send any troops over there. If we lost anyone there, what would the reason be? They died for "regime change?" That just ain't right.

Posted: 7/3/2003 1:40:02 PM EDT

[#11]

To hell with Liberia.

Euro nations pressured our gov't to send troops there, while all they did was sit back and bitch. The other nations of this world can go fuck themselves IMHO unless they want to get off their asses and help.

I think that if we get another somalia, our goverment may finally realizes that helping 3rd world shit-pits aint getting anyone anywhere.

Posted: 7/3/2003 1:46:04 PM EDT

[#12]

After Liberia, there will be another shithole waiting to be liberated. And another. And another. And another.

It will never stop until we are out of men and money. Then, the blue helmets from the UN will arrive on our shores to keep the peace here.

Posted: 7/4/2003 1:13:55 AM EDT

[#13]

The reason I think in part that we are going to Liberia is because it's very name was formed meaning Liberty,and it was the place that all freed slaves that wanted to go back to Africa were sent!

I seem to remember the name Monroe somehow connected to this! Maybe just maybe instead of dealing with Aparti and reparations,GW will use this to anchor his black vote in 04!

This all came about after the Civil War(what a name for such an uncivil war)!

Saw it on the History Channel(heard it in a Looove Sooong so it can't be wrong)! Marshall Tucker!

Bob [:D]

Posted: 7/4/2003 1:17:46 AM EDT

[#14]

Go to bed, bobbyjack, you sound, uhm, tired. ;)

Posted: 7/4/2003 6:50:30 AM EDT

[#15]

I was listening to a story about the Liberia situation on NPR (yes, I do listen to that) yesterday. They actually used a BBC reporter based in the Ivory Coast. The report was a good summary of what is going on there between the govt. and the two rebel groups.

What I found most interesting was the perspective of the BBC reporter. He gave the history of how Liberia was started and ended the piece with the fact that the people are crying out for US troops and that he "sensed" that it was time for the Americans to "give back some" to the people of Liberia. Can someone tell me when we incurred this debt of gratitude to Liberia?

Posted: 7/4/2003 6:56:39 AM EDT

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...the people are crying out for US troops and that he "sensed" that it was time for the Americans to "give back some" to the people of Liberia. Can someone tell me when we incurred this debt of gratitude to Liberia?

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Don't you realize? We owe everybody.

Posted: 7/4/2003 6:58:30 AM EDT

[#17]

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After Liberia, there will be another shithole waiting to be liberated. And another. And another. And another.

It will never stop until we are out of men and money. [red]Then, the blue helmets from the UN will arrive on our shores to keep the peace here.[/red]

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Ands with that action there would be no peace

Posted: 7/4/2003 7:52:31 AM EDT

[#18]

Bush will enter Liberia only if he wants to eliminate any chance at re-election - the majority of the people (Democrat or Republican) in the US will not support nation building in Africa, because like it or not, they are Third World blacks, and we are largely racist.

I don't support it because Africa has been lost for over 200 years, and we can't change it.

From Thomas Paine's [i]Common Sense[/i] (1776):

[b]O ye that love mankind! Ye that dare oppose, not only the tyranny, but the tyrant, stand forth! Every spot of the world is overrun with oppression. Freedom hath been hunted round the globe. Asia, and Africa, have long expelled her - Europe regards her like a stranger, and England hath given her warning to depart. O! Recieve the fugutive, and prepare in time an asylum for mankind.[/b]

(Okay, I don't care much for that last statement, unless the fugitive is willing to get a job and pay taxes so I don't have to suppport another low life parasite.)

We also should reveiw George Washington's warning in his farewell address (Sept 1796) to "steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foriegn world."

Posted: 7/4/2003 8:21:23 AM EDT

[#19]

Let's send all the prisoners over there.

Posted: 7/4/2003 10:06:31 AM EDT

[#20]

My uncle was the US State Department law enforcement advisor in Monrovia, the capital, from 1966-75. He's passed on, now, but I think he'd shake his head over what has been going on for the last few years.

It's terrible, but we don't need to go into a place unless UNITED STATES interests are involved. I don't see how that argument can be made, as we've been gone awhile.

Posted: 7/4/2003 10:47:09 AM EDT

[#21]

Liberia - part of our never ending world tour..........our military is spread so thin across the globe its scary.....What are we the @#$#$#%$%^$% UN!!! I'm sure SOMEONE here will jump to praise George W. and all the supposedly great virtues of our current administration. I know - Klinton he's not - but George W., who some have God-like reverance for, is just another socialist.....