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Posted: 7/3/2003 6:23:24 AM EDT
[b]Traditionalists say I was born of a woman's hand -- fashioned from bits of colored cloth by a seamstress in a small house in Philadelphia, a year after the new country was born.

Historians are less certain of my origin. Yet, no one doubts my existence. I was created out of necessity to serve as the emblem of a people whose experiment in nationhood was as unique as the arrangement of my stars and stripes.

I have proved my adaptability to change. I've accommodated growth. I've stood up to time and troubles. I fluttered in the Fall air with General Washington and his loyal French allies at Yorktown. My fabric was shredded by cannonballs from British frigates in the War of 1812. I was carried in triumph by Andy Jackson at New Orleans. The British could see me clearly in the mists of "dawn's early light," waving from the standards at Fort McHenry.

I've witnessed turmoil and bitterness, even lost some of my glory in mid-century in a war between brothers, but I was restored as a nation's emblem at Appomattox.

I traveled West with the new frontier. I flew from the headlamps of the Iron Horse in Utah. I was with the prospectors at Sutter's Mill, with the cavalry against cattle rustlers, with the Rough Riders at San Juan Hill.

I crossed the Marne with the doughboys anxious to make the world safe for democracy. I was with brave GIs storming the beaches at Normandy. I was raised over a shell-pocked hilltop at Iwo Jima and I stood by the grim-faced negotiators at Panmunjom. I was on that last helicopter from Saigon and with the men and women of Operation Desert Storm.

I have been around in victory and defeat. I've seen pleasure and pain. I was raised over the rubble of the World Trade Center and at the Pentagon. I've been folded smartly by soldiers and handed to weeping widows. I've covered the coffins of those who've served country and community.

I also decorate bandstands and concert halls. I am saluted in parades, in schools and at ball parks.

I am part of political campaigns, high holidays and ice cream socials. I fly from skyscrapers and bungalows. I've been to the moon and the ocean floor.

I am everywhere my people are. I am saluted and, occasionally, scorned. I have been held with pride and I have been ridiculed, because I am everything my people are: proud, angry, happy, sad, vengeful, argumentative, ambitious, indifferent.

I was created to serve a people in struggle and a government in change. There are now more stars in my blue field than there were in the beginning and, if need be, there's room for more.

But, those red and white stripes remain as they've always remained: clearly visible through the struggle -- the symbol of the "land of the free and the home of the brave."

I am your past. I am your future. I am your flag.[/b]



[USA]
Link Posted: 7/3/2003 6:43:32 AM EDT
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I also find it a bit hypocritical when the very people who proclaim love for the virtues for which I stand, wish to Arrest people who desecrate me in political protest.
Link Posted: 7/3/2003 7:18:14 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/3/2003 7:20:42 AM EDT
[#3]
I also find it a bit hypocritical when the very people who proclaim love for the virtues for which I stand, wish to Arrest people who desecrate me in political protest.
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It pisses me off to see someone desecrate the flag...  I don't know that they deserve arrest, maybe just a good ass kicking...  The flag is a NATIONAL symbol, not just for whatever administration is in office.  You can protest all you want, but don't desecrate the flag.  Many brave men have, are, and will continue to die for that flag...
Link Posted: 7/3/2003 7:39:03 AM EDT
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I also find it a bit hypocritical when the very people who proclaim love for the virtues for which I stand, wish to Arrest people who desecrate me in political protest.
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It pisses me off to see someone desecrate the flag...  I don't know that they deserve arrest, maybe just a good ass kicking...  The flag is a NATIONAL symbol, not just for whatever administration is in office.  You can protest all you want, but don't desecrate the flag.  Many brave men have, are, and will continue to die for that flag...
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EXAXCTLY!

Some people don't seem to get this. I could care less (for the most part) WTH you're protesting. If/when you desecrate the flag you've crossed the fuckin line! I will do everything in my power to kick the ever living shit out of you!
Link Posted: 7/3/2003 8:51:50 AM EDT
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I was intentionally harsh to bring out these opinions.  I agree that desecrating the flag, is a foul act.  One that is quite close to renouncing ones citizenship.

This being said, a law to protect it, is counterintuitive to the very freedoms it stands for.  You have my permission to kick the ass of anyone burning it, but however unfortunate, the law protects the burner from such attacks.  This is America, dissident acts are permitted.  If you want them arrested, cite them for lighting an open fire in a public space(illegal in most places).

There is a big difference between stealing a flag from a Vets cemetary and burning it, than burning a cheap do-dad flag off the shelf from Walmart.  Laws already in theory cover the desecration of the former.  Even if one could get such a protective law passed, it's application, and room for judicial discretion would render it all but useless.
Link Posted: 7/4/2003 9:52:37 AM EDT
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