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Posted: 7/1/2003 12:12:29 PM EDT
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"Three have been won"?
What three? Who was the no brain defense attorney who couldn't muster the intelligence to point out the idiocy of the suit's premise? |
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Posted: 7/1/2003 12:18:31 PM EDT
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What a POS.
It makes sense though, job security and all... |
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Posted: 7/1/2003 12:21:56 PM EDT
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I just found this. Here's the guy's website.
[url]http://banzhaf.net/obesitylinks[/url] Oh and here's his email from the home page in case you're interested. [email][email protected][/email] |
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Posted: 7/1/2003 12:24:01 PM EDT
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heart attack
ha ha ha |
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Posted: 7/1/2003 12:31:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: "Three have been won"? What three? Who was the no brain defense attorney who couldn't muster the intelligence to point out the idiocy of the suit's premise? "Hi, I'm Lionel Hutz. The judge here has had it in for me ever since I ran over his dog. Actually, replace the word accidentally with repeatedly, and dog with son." "This suit is just what I need to repair my shattered practice. Care for a belt of scotch? "Mr. Hutz it's 10:00 AM!" Yeah, but I haven't slept in days." |
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Posted: 7/1/2003 12:35:51 PM EDT
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when fat is outlawed only criminals will be fat...
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Posted: 7/1/2003 12:39:05 PM EDT
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That is such a waste of time, I used to be fat, i didnt blame it on mcdonalds or buffet style restaraunts, nobody forces us to PAY to eat out. We can just as well eat something green and nasty. But oh well. I will just blame my parents i guess! :)
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Posted: 7/1/2003 12:41:39 PM EDT
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Quoted: ...teaches a course in public interest law at George Washington University. He calls it his "sue the bastards" class, and students must file a lawsuit to receive a passing grade... [puke] Yale, Stamford, Harvard, Columbia it ain't. GWU ranks somewhere down the list around number 20 in the law school rankings. While it's not exactly a TTT (third tier trash) law school, it isn't in the same league as HYS. I am certain the students who shell out on average 20+k per academic year at law school, appreciate the quality education they are receiving. It is no wonder there are no prerequisites (beyond an undergrad degree majoring in anything from basket weaving to whining)for law school. We currently have more laywers than lab rats in this country, and their count continues to grow. I am reassured that the future of law in this country is solid, based on the quality education at supposed top law schools. As for the professor, he's fat miserable man, who can't keep his mouth shut. TT [wave] |
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Posted: 7/1/2003 1:32:29 PM EDT
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[url]http://banzhaf.net/pottyparity.html[/url]
You gotta check this one out! The guy has a good side tho. He sued to get equal treatment for men in bars that give women free drinks1[;)] |
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Posted: 7/1/2003 1:46:16 PM EDT
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Quoted: Yale, Stamford, Harvard, Columbia it ain't. GWU ranks somewhere down the list around number 20 in the law school rankings. While it's not exactly a TTT (third tier trash) law school, it isn't in the same league as HYS. Anyway, I'm a little surprised that this guy hasn't gotten jammed up on an ethics violation for requiring students to file a lawsuit, even if they don't have a meritorious one. I would think the first judge that had one of these students in front of him stammering that he was wasting everyone's time on a class project would have this joker dragged down and fined and sanctioned. |
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Posted: 7/1/2003 2:00:17 PM EDT
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I think I can see where this guy is going. He will begain by claiming they are not labeling the food with enough information. The strategy will be pretty much the same as tobacco. "This food will make you fat" is not a label any fast food outlet wants on their food but this is the direction he will push. Jeez, he got millions on tobacco for his work and this just builds on the previous extortion.
I suspect the 3 cases won involved making the fast food chains put more dietary information at the point of sale. Just a prelude to trying to pull the wool over the public's eyes and get more cash. These lawyers that got the tobacco settlement are a real danger to our country. The states that have gotten most of the money are spending it to balance deficits, not improve health. You'd think they'd sue about that....fat chance...they are in cahoots with the legislatures and AG's. Quite a Triad. |
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Posted: 7/1/2003 3:30:25 PM EDT
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Quoted: There's little practical real world difference in where people attended law school, helps with the job interviews and getting clerkships, though. Disagree. There is a vast "real" difference between attending Cooley and attending Yale. "Job interviews and clerkships" pave the way for where you want to practice. Which ultimately determines where you live, the hours you work, salary, bonuses, etc. Few TTT grads ever make it to Biglaw or have a prestigious law career. Education is a step to a career. Where you go to law school will start that career. In society lawyers will always be considered & consider themselves part of the "elite" just some more than others. That has been, is, & always will be the state of legal education & the legal profession. Those who attend top law schools have a far greater chance of success in prestigious legal careers. Most job offers for grads of third and fourth tier law schools will be local. Some lower ranked schools have bad reputations and some are not accredited. Some law school graduate students that only 40% of pass the bar exam. Others have very limited law libraries. All factors affect the quality of education at any school. It is not lawyers alone who suffer from school-oriented elitism. An engineer from MIT will be received more positively than an engineer from Appalachian State School of Electronics and Stuff. An MBA from Wharton (UPenn) is much more desirable than an MBA from the University of Tampa. TT |
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Posted: 7/1/2003 5:22:40 PM EDT
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Hey TT, that's "The Thomas M. Cooley School of Law".
I did my bar review class there after Mich, and I thought they were kidding about the wailing wall the same as we did at Hank Hutchins, until I saw some people crying. They gave out Fs like we did AA (affirmative action). Edited to correct syntax (drinking) and spell out what AA means. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 5:59:22 AM EDT
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Quoted: Hey TT, that's "The Thomas M. Cooley School of Law". I did my bar review class there after Mich, and I thought they were kidding about the wailing wall the same we we did at Hank Hutchins, until I saw some people crying. They gave out Fs like we did AA. [rofl2] "The Thomas M. Cooley School of Law" graduating Class of 2003. Proof positive that anyone can be a lawyer. TT [wave] |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 6:21:23 AM EDT
[#15]
We should start sending e-mails to GWU about this tub of shit.
As for the tobacco suits, I heard that before these suits, the taxes on tobacco made up for the health costs shouldered by the states. I'll have to dig that up. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 7:56:01 AM EDT
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Quoted: "Job interviews and clerkships" pave the way for where you want to practice. Which ultimately determines where you live, the hours you work, salary, bonuses, etc. Few TTT grads ever make it to Biglaw or have a prestigious law career. Absolutely true, in the beginning, when you are looking for a job. However, when it comes to litigation, once you start practicing, where you went to school mounts to a big heaping mass of nothing. Once you start practicing, whether you're in an "elite" class or not will depend on your performance in the courtroom and your Martindale-Hubbell peer ratings. NOTHING ELSE really matters. A |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 10:04:19 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: "Job interviews and clerkships" pave the way for where you want to practice. Which ultimately determines where you live, the hours you work, salary, bonuses, etc. Few TTT grads ever make it to Biglaw or have a prestigious law career. Absolutely true, in the beginning, when you are looking for a job. However, when it comes to litigation, once you start practicing, where you went to school mounts to a big heaping mass of nothing. Once you start practicing, whether you're in an "elite" class or not will depend on your performance in the courtroom and your Martindale-Hubbell peer ratings. NOTHING ELSE really matters. A Where you went to law school largely determines where you will practise. If you went to a fourth tier school, it is unlikely you will be practising Biglaw. Instead you will be relegated to a working for a small town firm handling insignificant cases. And while your litigation ability may well be stellar, you will never be afforded the opportunity to work in an environment such as those who are Yale grads are. (Supreme court clerkships are likely out of the realm of possibility as well.) It is easy to excel if the bench mark is low as is the case at TTT schools. You may graduation first in your class and be on the law review, but if you're competing against people with 2.75 ug gpas and 150s LSAT scores, then you cannot compare yourself to the person who graduated first in his class from HLS. That said: that may be fine for many/most. Working slave hours for Biglaw firms like Wachtell or Skadden may not be what everyone wants. TT [wave] |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 10:34:44 AM EDT
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Quoted: Where you went to law school largely determines where you will practise. If you went to a fourth tier school, it is unlikely you will be practising Biglaw. Instead you will be relegated to a working for a small town firm handling insignificant cases. And while your litigation ability may well be stellar, you will never be afforded the opportunity to work in an environment such as those who are Yale grads are. That's bullshit. As I said above, you are right about someone getting thier first job, but so far as actual trial practice or "Biglaw" (whatever that is) once you've been practicing a few years, where you went to school does not mean shit. If you are a good trial attorney and you collect your fees, everyone wants you nowadays. It's more about a business than a profession (sadly). Handling big cases and getting judgeships, including federal judgeships, does not have squat to do with where you went to school. But hey, you are right about a Supreme Court clerkship or getting your foot in the door of a big law firm right out of school (both very boring BTW). I have head hunters try and recruit me all the time- from "Biglaw" firms. I went to a good school, however, they are interested only in my trial practice as a litigator, my billing and my peer reviews in Martindale-Hubbell, not where I graduated, my grades or my frikin LSAT score- that is laughable at best. Again, if you are just starting out, those things matter, but only then. One of my best friends does a lot of recruiting for his firm (top 25 in the country)- he would tell you the same thing. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 11:20:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Where you went to law school largely determines where you will practise. If you went to a fourth tier school, it is unlikely you will be practising Biglaw. Instead you will be relegated to a working for a small town firm handling insignificant cases. And while your litigation ability may well be stellar, you will never be afforded the opportunity to work in an environment such as those who are Yale grads are. That's bullshit. As I said above, you are right about someone getting thier first job, but so far as actual trial practice or "Biglaw" (whatever that is) once you've been practicing a few years, where you went to school does not mean shit. If you are a good trial attorney and you collect your fees, everyone wants you nowadays. It's more about a business than a profession (sadly). Handling big cases and getting judgeships, including federal judgeships, does not have squat to do with where you went to school. But hey, you are right about a Supreme Court clerkship or getting your foot in the door of a big law firm right out of school (both very boring BTW). I have head hunters try and recruit me all the time- from "Biglaw" firms. I went to a good school, however, they are interested only in my trial practice as a litigator, my billing and my peer reviews in Martindale-Hubbell, not where I graduated, my grades or my frikin LSAT score- that is laughable at best. Again, if you are just starting out, those things matter, but only then. One of my best friends does a lot of recruiting for his firm (top 25 in the country)- he would tell you the same thing. Then why spend go to HYS or Columbia, UPenn, Michigan etc? Why not just get a free ride at Cooley or another TTT? If the quality of the education is the same, and the job prospects are the same, then why does elitism exist? Why do prelaw student scramble and obsess about LSAT scores and gpas? Why do they have others edit and write their personal statements and essays? If it's all the same in the end, what a waste of time! TT [wave] |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 12:19:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: . . . Biglaw firms like Wachtell or Skadden may not be what everyone wants. TT [wave] Hey, I got an idea, since you mention those "Biglaw" firms, let's see where some of their newer associates went to law school. I've got a Martindale-Hubbell right here. Let's see, just skimming . . . hmmm, Ilene Gotts, [b]Georgetown Univ.[/b] (not even in the top 10), she's a partner. Let's look at some associates recently recruited . . . hmmm, Steven Kolleeny, [b]University of Texas[/b], Bert Wolff, [b]Albany Law School[/b] (are they even ranked?), Jay Goffman, [b]UNC- Chapel Hill[/b] (we use to be in the top 20, now we're floating somewhere around 25), Neil Rock, [b]Fordham[/b] (not even in the top 30) . . . Anyway, you get he picture. Yes, the bigger firms have the Ivy League grads, but they also have a number of guys and gals who went to Boston College (22), UNC-CH, Univ. of Wash. etc . . . So. . . even the non-Ivy Leaguers can aspire to carry around a partners briefcase and spend his/her weekends in the library! Look at even bigger firms like Hunton & Williams and you'll see "lateral movers"; parnters brought in (without regard to where they went to school) solely based on their practice alone. Not their school or [GASP!] the all important LSAT score. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 12:24:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: Then why spend go to HYS or Columbia, UPenn, Michigan etc? Why not just get a free ride at Cooley or another TTT? If the quality of the education is the same, and the job prospects are the same, then why does elitism exist? Why do prelaw student scramble and obsess about LSAT scores and gpas? Why do they have others edit and write their personal statements and essays? If it's all the same in the end, what a waste of time! TT [wave] Wow, is that what I said, that it's all a "waste of time"? You reading the same post as me? One more time, IT MATTERS WHEN YOU FIRST GET OUT OF SCHOOL. The rest is up to you. BTW, LSAT prep is done to . . . do well on the LSAT so you get into a good school (which is why I busted my ass). Once you get out and are practicing, it's a frikin joke, not a factor for a job. Any 1st year associate will tell you this. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 1:20:30 PM EDT
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I'm interviewing potential associates now. I am concerned about their intellectual horsepower, as evidenced by their grades. They have to want to do the kind of work we do at my firm. They have to be able to get along with people. If the new lawyer is a jerk, then clients probably won't like him/her and juries certainly won't. It would be nice if the candidate spoke Spanish.
As long as the candidate went to an accredited law school, got good grades and passed the bar, it doesn't matter a whole lot which law school it was. Steve-in-Va, are you the NOVA lawyer who formerly practiced in Hawaii? I'm the guy in F'burg who was asking about arbitrators this AM. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 2:15:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: Wow, is that what I said, that it's all a "waste of time"? You reading the same post as me? One more time, IT MATTERS WHEN YOU FIRST GET OUT OF SCHOOL. The rest is up to you. Why do you feel the need to attempt to condescend to me? Are you feeling the need to send a little shit downstream today? Is it impossible for you to share ideas/opinions without attempting to berate someone? It's amusing but... Let's see, just skimming . . . hmmm, Ilene Gotts, Georgetown Univ. (not even in the top 10), she's a partner. Let's look at some associates recently recruited . . . hmmm, Steven Kolleeny, University of Texas, Bert Wolff, Albany Law School (are they even ranked?), Jay Goffman, UNC- Chapel Hill (we use to be in the top 20, now we're floating somewhere around 25), Neil Rock, Fordham (not even in the top 30) . . . Anyway, you get he picture. Yes, the bigger firms have the Ivy League grads, but they also have a number of guys and gals who went to Boston College (22), UNC-CH, Univ. of Wash. etc . . . Not one of the schools you mentioned are TTTs. Sort by: Rank Top 100 1. Yale University (CT) 2. Stanford University (CA) 3. Harvard University (MA) 4. Columbia University (NY) 5. New York University 6. University of Chicago 7. University of Michigan–Ann Arbor University of Pennsylvania 9. University of Virginia 10. Cornell University (NY) University of California–Berkeley 12. Duke University (NC) Northwestern University (IL) 14. Georgetown University (DC) 15. University of Texas–Austin 16. University of California–Los Angeles 17. Vanderbilt University (TN) 18. University of Southern California 19. University of Minnesota–Twin Cities Washington and Lee University (VA) 21. University of Iowa 22. Boston College George Washington University (DC) University of Notre Dame (IN) 25. University of Illinois–Urbana-Champaign Washington University in St. Louis 27. Emory University (GA) 28. Boston University College of William and Mary (VA) University of North Carolina–Chapel Hill 31. Brigham Young University (J. Reuben Clark) (UT) Fordham University (NY) University of California–Davis University of Georgia University of Wisconsin–Madison 36. Wake Forest University (NC) 37. University of California (Hastings) 38. Indiana University–Bloomington Ohio State University (Moritz) 40. George Mason University (VA) University of Colorado–Boulder University of Connecticut University of Utah (S.J. Quinney) 44. University of Arizona (Rogers) 45. Tulane University (LA) University of Alabama University of Florida (Levin) University of Maryland University of Washington 50. Southern Methodist University (TX) 51. Baylor University (TX) University of Cincinnati University of Kentucky University of Pittsburgh 55. American University (Washington College of Law) (DC) University of Tennessee–Knoxville 57. Cardozo-Yeshiva University (NY) Case Western Reserve University (OH) 59. Arizona State University Brooklyn Law School (NY) University of Missouri–Columbia University of Oklahoma University of San Diego 64. Florida State University Indiana University–Indianapolis Temple University (Beasley) (PA) University of Kansas University of Nebraska–Lincoln 69. Illinois Institute of Technology (Chicago-Kent) Lewis and Clark College (Northwestern) (OR) Loyola Law School (CA) Loyola University Chicago St. John's University (NY) University of Houston University of Louisville (Brandeis) (KY) University of New Mexico Villanova University (PA) 78. Rutgers State University–Camden (NJ) Rutgers State University–Newark (NJ) University of Denver University of Oregon University of Richmond (VA) University of South Carolina 84. Catholic University of America (DC) University of Miami (FL) 86. Seton Hall University (NJ) University at Buffalo (NY) University of Hawaii 89. Northeastern University (MA) University of Mississippi 91. Georgia State University Marquette University (WI) Mercer University (GA) Santa Clara University (CA) Seattle University University of Arkansas–Fayetteville 97. Louisiana State University–Baton Rouge Syracuse University (NY) University of San Francisco Wayne State University (MI) While I am certain there are lawyers that went to TTTs currently practising in some of the larger prestigious firms, I suspect that is the exception and not the rule. Quoted: I'm interviewing potential associates now. I am concerned about their intellectual horsepower, as evidenced by their grades. They have to want to do the kind of work we do at my firm. They have to be able to get along with people. If the new lawyer is a jerk, then clients probably won't like him/her and juries certainly won't. It would be nice if the candidate spoke Spanish. As long as the candidate went to an accredited law school, got good grades and passed the bar, it doesn't matter a whole lot which law school it was. Given equal grades and both being personable people, would you elect to hire a Cooley grad or a Harvard grad? TT |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 2:21:46 PM EDT
[#24]
No shit? Hey, there's nothing like a good lawsuit to liven up the day!
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Posted: 7/2/2003 3:26:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: Steve-in-Va, are you the NOVA lawyer who formerly practiced in Hawaii? I'm the guy in F'burg who was asking about arbitrators this AM. No, I'm licensed in HI but I'm not your guy. I live and work in Va Beach- been practicing here since 91. I'm a partner in a general litigation firm. TT, So TTT meaning "not in the top 100" and that's what you are referring to when talking about "Biglaw"- are you serious? Did not sound that way according to your posts regarding "Yale" and "Harvard" and the top ten schools you referenced. You said this: And while your litigation ability may well be stellar, you will never be afforded the opportunity to work in an environment such as those who are [red]Yale[/red] grads are. So . . . I guess now you mean any of the top 100 ranked schools? That's what you meant to say when you referenced "Yale"? LOL. And so when you said, "[b]Then why spend go to HYS or Columbia, UPenn, Michigan etc[/b]", the "etc" is the other 120 or so schools on the list? Hmmm. Why do you feel the need to attempt to condescend to me? Are you feeling the need to send a little shit downstream today? Wow, little touchy aren't we? I'm just correcting laughable statements (no shit, some of my law partners laughed out loud when they read your posts), sorry if I upset you. Is this where you tell me to "fuck my mother" en espanol? I can't wait for that . . . While I am certain there are lawyers that went to TTTs currently practising in some of the larger prestigious firms, I suspect that is the exception and not the rule. Hmm, see that quote above where you say [b]"you will[/b] [red]never[/red] [b]be afforded the opportunity . . ."[/b]? So now it's an exception to the rule? Good thing you never went to law school. If you still can't see the light, re-read Catsmeat's post- he's right, you're not. Stick to medicine, "doc". |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 3:50:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: TT, So TTT meaning "not in the top 100"? Is that what you were talking about? Not according to your posts regarding "Yale" and "Harvard" and the top ten schools you referenced. You said this: And while your litigation ability may well be stellar, you will never be afforded the opportunity to work in an environment such as those who are [red]Yale[/red] grads are. So . . . I guess now you mean any of the top 100 ranked schools? That's what you meant to say when you said "Yale"? LOL. I stand by that comment. But many of my comments made specific references to TTTs, which you failed to address. Your Yale comment is simply ridiculous. Yale is in a league of its own. TTT is a common reference to third tier trash. Perhaps check the US News rankings for a clearer picture of which law schools are 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th tier - according to US News, if you believe them. Wow, little touchy aren't we? I'm just correcting laughable statements (no shit, some of my law partners laughed out loud when they read your posts), sorry if I upset you. Is this where you tell me to "fuck my mother" is espanol? I can't wait for that . . . Your spanish is rusty too! I never said that! Actually if you bother to read your posts, you're the one who started flinging BS at me, not me towards you. I am glad I can amuse your fellow cubicle mates. While I am certain there are lawyers that went to TTTs currently practising in some of the larger prestigious firms, I suspect that is the exception and not the rule. Hmm, see that quote above where you say [b]"you will[/b] [red]never[/red] [b]be afforded the opportunity . . ."[/b]? So now it's an exception to the rule? Good thing you never went to law school. Stick to medicine, "doc". With admission into law school as easy as obtaining a mediocre LSAT score, and the country filling more lawyers than lab rats, who knows who you might find as opposing council someday! Question for your brilliant legal mind: If what law school you go to does not matter once you're out practising for more than a year, then why does it matter for your first year? Could it be that your first year out lays the paving stones for the balance of your career to be built upon? If not, then why is the first year important? If your first year out does lay the groundwork for your future career and the first year is dependent on which law school you go to and how you do there, then how can it ultimately not matter? You admit you busted your ass for a decent (subjective) LSAT score so you could go to a decent law school and subsequently I assume this paved the way into a decent clerkship and your career was launched. I am assuming your Supreme Court clerkship and biglaw experience helped your career. Scroll back to where you stated they were "boring". Boring is a subjective term that could only be used if one experienced something personally. Or are you relating what others have told you? Now before you go and get your panties in a bunch, why not actually answer my questions with something other rhetoric and failed attempts at condescension. TT BTW how did you do on the games portion of the LSAT? Not well I suspect! [:D] |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 4:01:14 PM EDT
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You need to go back and re-read my posts. Actually, I made my point with your contradicting quotes in my last post; but you don't seem the type that likes to be confused with the facts. [;)]
Let me try again. GRANTED, a good school and good grades (I had both just in case you ask me more rhetorical questions)will help you get your foot in the door of a big firm. MY POINT was that, regarding LITIGATION, once you are established in a good practice and you have shown yourself to be a good (or better) trial attorney, where you graduated might not mean shit to a big firm. You continued, until recently, to absolutely disagree with this. Problem is, I actually know what I'm talking about. Now, go re-read and get back to me when you "get it". [wave] Oh, and I have no clue how I did on the game section of the LSAT- I took it in 1987 and did quite well. I had no reason to review my results since I only took it once. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 4:10:12 PM EDT
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MAN, how did I miss this bit of brilliance?
Quoted: Scroll back to where you stated they were "boring". Boring is a subjective term that could only be used if one experienced something personally. [ROFL2] Wow, seriously, don't go to law school. So "boring" is a subjective term that can only be "used" if "experienced"? M'kay, so if I were to extrapolate and use this little gem of an argument in the medical field, you cannot state a certain medical condition/disease is "painfull" unless you "experience" it yourself? I hope you're not an OBGYN!! [naughty] You must have really shitty bedside manner. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 6:47:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: MAN, how did I miss this bit of brilliance? Quoted: Scroll back to where you stated they were "boring". Boring is a subjective term that could only be used if one experienced something personally. [ROFL2] Wow, seriously, don't go to law school. So "boring" is a subjective term that can only be "used" if "experienced"? M'kay, so if I were to extrapolate and use this little gem of an argument in the medical field, you cannot state a certain medical condition/disease is "painfull" unless you "experience" it yourself? I hope you're not an OBGYN!! [naughty] You must have really shitty bedside manner. Pain is subjective. I would never state that anything was or wasn't painful unless I had personally experienced it. I might state that based on the experiences of others a certain condition may be painful. But unless I've experienced something I generally don't assume that which others feel, I will as well. So yes, if you tell me something is boring, then I should be able to assume you've experienced it, versus telling me that you're colleagues tell you it is boring. Why not differentiate? Or was your response simply an attempt to negate my comments rather than present accurate information? As for my bedside manner, I sincerely hope you never find out, since in order to do so you would have to be in an unfortunate situation that I would not wish on anyone. TT BTW childbirth does not need to be painful if you're intelligent enough to explore alternatives such as regional anesthesia. Edited to add: It's unfortunate you continue to feel the need to attempt to condescend to me. Your pathetic attempts are only reflective of your own insecurities. It is apparent that you are incapable of presenting an argument without becoming personal so I won't respond to you further. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 6:58:57 PM EDT
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Quoted: ..., once you are established in a good practice and you have shown yourself to be a good (or better) trial attorney, where you graduated might not mean shit to a big firm... I agree with Steve on this. If I'm a client, I would pick a lawyer with a great track record and help me win. I don't care if he went to TTT ( tenth tier trash law school)and educational background doesn't mean squat if he loses my case. Good discussion guys/gals. |
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Posted: 7/2/2003 7:06:06 PM EDT
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Quoted: Edited to add: It's unfortunate you continue to feel the need to attempt to condescend to me. [img]http://stores.wholesalecentral.com//Images/amazer/380414%2Ejpg[/img] ----"You're black!"---->[img]http://store5.yimg.com/I/kkapers2_1744_151180222[/img] |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 3:21:53 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted: Your spanish is rusty too! I never said that! There you go again. Seriously, you need to stop while you are behind. You wrote this: My spanish is rusty but.... Si, conosco completamente chinga tu madre. Are you saying you don't know what you wrote? Either way, not very bright- sort of a lose/lose, dontcha think? Edited to add: It's unfortunate you continue to feel the need to attempt to condescend to me. What Aimless said. Also, my discection of your dribble goes beyond mere "condescending" you. If you can't back up what you say (with such arrogance btw), then you're fair game. You still have yet to rap your grey matter around my very simple and specific point- I raised it in my first post. The closest you've come is your contradiction in your "exception to the rule" statement. Your pathetic attempts are only reflective of your own insecurities. Wow, thanx a lot Dr. Laura- I'll run along and explore my "insecurities". Grow up. If your net pycho-babble rang true, you would be a basket case given your actions on this board and others (Habla espanol?). It is apparent that you are incapable of presenting an argument without becoming personal so I won't respond to you further. Smartest thing you've said so far. You should just stop the madness now while you look just a little silly; it could get worse. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 4:50:59 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted: Edited to add: It's unfortunate you continue to feel the need to attempt to condescend to me. Your pathetic attempts are only reflective of your own insecurities. It is apparent that you are incapable of presenting an argument without becoming personal so I won't respond to you further. No doubt, you'll be back for another dose of Steve-in-VA sooner or later. The pattern I've seen is that [i]you[/i] initiate the personal attacks and insults more often than not. The height of your conceit is only overshadowed by your apparent need for an audience. Do you derive some sort of perverse pleasure in being the provocateur? [>:/] |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 4:51:52 AM EDT
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All things being equal, I'd hire the Harvard grad over the Cooley grad. It's just that when dealing with people all things are never equal.
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Posted: 7/3/2003 6:35:40 AM EDT
[#35]
Quoted: As for my bedside manner, I sincerely hope you never find out, since in order to do so you would have to be in an unfortunate situation that I would not wish on anyone. TT Yep, you as our Doctor. Jeez, STFU. Listen to the lawyers. It's like listening to an auto mechanic argue with a doctor about how their jobs are similar. The engine is the heart of the car. I went to lincoln tech, that's the Havard of auto mechanics. Your board certified? Me too, ASE. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 7:38:57 AM EDT
[#36]
Quoted: All things being equal, I'd hire the Harvard grad over the Cooley grad. It's just that when dealing with people all things are never equal. So it appears that, after all the blow-hard name calling is over, where you go to school does matter, at least to some managing partners..... The Lawyer's Credo: "If conflict exists, exploit it! If conflict doesn't exist, create it!" Too bad we can't generate some billable hours! [:D] Addendum: The above words of wisdom brought to you courtsey of the Nolo Press. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 7:52:04 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted: So it appears that, after all the blow-hard name calling is over. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 12:01:01 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted: Quoted: All things being equal, I'd hire the Harvard grad over the Cooley grad. It's just that when dealing with people all things are never equal. So it appears that, after all the blow-hard name calling is over, where you go to school does matter, at least to some managing partners..... The Lawyer's Credo: "If conflict exists, exploit it! If conflict doesn't exist, create it!" Too bad we can't generate some billable hours! [:D] Addendum: The above words of wisdom brought to you courtsey of the Nolo Press. Did you read any of these posts? Her hypo has nothing to do with my point because, as Catsmeat points out, her rediculous hypo is unrealistic- just read the rest of his statement beginning with "It's just that . . ." See where he says "never"- he's right. For an experienced LITIGATION position, where you went to school means nada- it's your practice, clients and reputation. Her hypo is nice for lay ppl or wannabes to bat around in a classroom; it's different in the real world. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 2:37:18 PM EDT
[#39]
Alright, the good news is that the school I went to is still top 10 (just barely!)!
Speaking from my own experience, if I needed a litigation attorney, or was asked to refer someone to an attorney, I would pick an attorney who is effective in court, with a good track record, and a good reputation among judges and peers. Results and reputation count way more than the law school you went to. |
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Posted: 7/3/2003 5:12:57 PM EDT
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Quoted: Alright, the good news is that the school I went to is still top 10 (just barely!)! Speaking from my own experience, if I needed a litigation attorney, or was asked to refer someone to an attorney, I would pick an attorney who is effective in court, with a good track record, and a good reputation among judges and peers. Results and reputation count way more than the law school you went to. So spill it; where'd you go? Cornell? UVA? Both great schools (although UNC and UVA sort of have a rivalry, sorta). |
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