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Posted: 6/30/2003 7:39:50 PM EDT
I was scanning through the GD forum tonight. I was very dismayed at the number of inflammatory and locked threads. The bandwith and time from the mods to support a board where the average topic ranges from "why are blacks so good at basketball" to what color tie did al pechino have on in the shootout scene in "Heat".
I suppose my question to everyone else...has the GD forum lost its usefulness? On a firearm board should such precious resources be wasted on rather trivial and sometimes unacceptable content? The GD forum seems to be a troll magnet some days...just sort of frustrating as a regular. What do y'all think...I suppose as a moocher (non-paying member) I really don't have much room to offer up suggestions. |
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You don't like GD? Don't surf GD. No one's putting a gun to your head. |
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You know what...I think you are 100% correct. Bunch of kids in here at times.
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[rolleyes] So what purpose do you think the GD board is for? Even if some folks abuse the system, it's called free speech. If the post warrants a lock it will get locked.
Out lived it's usefulness? Not hardly. |
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It does amaze me the amount of replies that the stupidity gets.
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We strongly prefer to think of all Members as being equally valuable--paying and non-paying. [:)]
As to the GD and its usefulness--it is the heart and soul of ARFCOM. Times such as these are cyclical and fairly easy handled. Besides, that's why we are so well paid. A little bit of "forced discipline" goes a long way to get things back on track. Occasionally we lose a Member over it, but mostly it's just "time outs" to get the point across. Don't worry, we will be back to the "normal" stuff in no time. [:)] |
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It runs though cycles - good and bad. The cycle runs about 30 days ... not tied to the phase of the moon but I'm still working on it.
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Nope, I like it...GD is usually the first place I check. Diverse, perverse, useless, interesting, entertaining, fun, IMNSHO.
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Quoted: We strongly prefer to think of all Members as being equally valuable--paying and non-paying. [:)] As to the GD and its usefulness--it is the heart and soul of ARFCOM. Times such as these are cyclical and fairly easy handled. Besides, that's why we are so well paid. A little bit of "forced discipline" goes a long way to get things back on track. Occasionally we lose a Member over it, but mostly it's just "time outs" to get the point across. Don't worry, we will be back to the "normal" stuff in no time. [:)] View Quote You get paid for this caca?? Damn M, you couldn't get me to mod this forum for nothing less than $30k per year. What a damn headache that task must be.[:|] -T. |
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Quoted: Quoted: We strongly prefer to think of all Members as being equally valuable--paying and non-paying. [:)] As to the GD and its usefulness--it is the heart and soul of ARFCOM. Times such as these are cyclical and fairly easy handled. Besides, that's why we are so well paid. A little bit of "forced discipline" goes a long way to get things back on track. Occasionally we lose a Member over it, but mostly it's just "time outs" to get the point across. Don't worry, we will be back to the "normal" stuff in no time. [:)] View Quote You get paid for this caca?? Damn M, you couldn't get me to mod this forum for nothing less than $30k per year. What a damn headache that task must be.[:|] -T. View Quote That's IT!! No more attempts at humor for me. We are paid all the [nuts] we want, whenever we want it. [:D] |
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I'm new here and certainly don't want to step on any toes, but here my take. When I first came here a couple of months ago I was interested in advertising. I made a coyote hunting video where I used the AR15 rifle. I thought what better place to advertise. These AR guys will eat this up. Well to date I can trace about 3-4 sales from AR15. I've made a few post regarding my video just to have them almost ignored. I had one guy actually buy the video and posted how much he liked it, and by the time I got there the thread was locked. I couldn't even say thanks. They said it was accidentally locked. I guess it could happen. Then I thought hey maybe it's because no body knows me here. I posted another thread "who's your favorite comic book hero", got over 40 replies in just a short time. Ed Avila SR. wrote a review of my video (it's on the home page) then made a post about my video and it was basically ignored.
Like I said earlier I'm new here, and the staff that I've dealt with have been great. Honestly I had the same thought's as sloth. Just wanted to exercise my right to free speech on the subject. No one put a gun to my head either, but when I go to the general forums on a gun board, in my feeble mind it should be at least 60-40 gun related vs. other. I hope I didn't piss anybody off. That's just my answer to the mans question. Thanks again to the staff. I'm hanging in their waiting for hunting season. Have a great week. Byron ps. I really think you guy's will dig my video. [url]www.comingtothecall.com[/url] |
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A tip of the hat to sloth for posting the question. I have been here a lot longer than
my (held in high esteem by others) post count would suggest, and still kick myself in the ass every time I visit the GD forum. I enjoy the visits, but wonder why. Kind of like the 'rubber neckers' that slow down to see what there is to see at a traffic accident. AR15.com would be better off without GD. I would visit AR15.com less if there wasn't a GD. What to do? Is it meds time? DanM |
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The problems between members typically get fired up in the General Forum, I get sucked in and wish the temptation to call someone stupid was gone, but there it is at the top of the list trying to get me to fight.
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The GD forum is the best part of this website and I think a lot of people would leave if it were cut. I say get a sense of humor and stop crying about annoying posts! [slap] I just got rid of cable, I now depend on the AR15.com GD Forum for all of my up-to-the-minute news!
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Sometimes it seems that way... I don't recall things getting nearly as out of hand on the old board as they do here.
Oh, wait... [url]http://web.archive.org/web/20000621022009/forums.ar15.com/cgi/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=General+Discussion&number=3&DaysPrune=10&LastLogin=[/url] |
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There's only two forums here, that I use regularly. General Discussion, and the Equipment Exchange. I don't bitch when I "surf" the other forums.
Catch my "drift"??? [:D] |
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There's plenty of useless threads (as far as *I* am concerned) in GD.
BUT There are plenty of gems (as far as *I* am concerned) too. Gotta take the bad with the good. I spend most of my time in this forum unless I'm pursuing info on something specific. |
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If it weren't for GD, then the feds, state doj, mjtf, and agent provocateurs would lose their one major point of infiltration and initiation of extrapment programs. In addition, if GD were done away with the whole site would go down as the above mentioned comprises of 95-99% of the paid membership of this site.
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AR15 GD is unlike ANYPLACE else on the net.
It's been better and it's been worse. And nobody is making anyone stay. There are more than enough gun specific areas here and tons of other gun forums on the net. If you find it too wild you can go to thehighroad or glocktalk. If you find it too irreverant you cna go to assweb. If you find it to controlled you can go to full-auto or pre-ban. But all of them combined wouldn't give you ar15.com. |
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"All ARFCOM members are created equal, some are just MORE equal than others..."
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If some of that was directed at me.
Please let me clarify what I posted earlier. I think sloth made an interesting observation. I'm not bitching. In fact I think there is some great information to be gained from this board. My writing skills are probably not up to ya'lls standards, and I probably sound like I'm bitching. I'm the new guy here and I was just thinking the same way sloth was. I had my experiences to share, thought I would. now I'm taking heat. There are other boards that talk about all kind of mind less drivel. I was under the impression this was a gun related board. That why I came here and, that's why a lot of the topics struck me as way off. I'll get use to it or I will leave. Simple as that. By the way what color tie did Al Pacino wear in that Shootout scene in Heat. Lighten up and don't be so defensive. The guy just ask what was on his mind. Have a great week. Byron |
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Quoted: I suppose my question to everyone else...has the GD forum lost its usefulness? View Quote It was useful at one point? [:D] [headbang][size=6][blue]+[/blue][red]+[/red][yellow]+[/yellow]1[yellow]+[/yellow][red]+[/red][blue]+[/blue][/size=6][naughty] |
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Quoted: You know what...I think you are 100% correct. Bunch of kids in here at times. SGtar15 View Quote It's summer what the hell do you expect. All the kids are home from school and wasting their summers away getting fat in front of the Computer! DG84 |
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[b]Has the General Discussion forum outlived usefulness?[/b]
Yes |
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... [b]cttc1[/b], I didn't see where any of that was directed towards you. That said, being a long time member here, ARFCOM is [i]not[/i] a hunting leaning board. If anything, must hunting trophy stories and photos get relatively low responses. If fact, if you used guns as the common denominator, ARFCOM (especially GD) is at the opposite end of the spectrum from, say, [url=http://www.huntamerica.com/]Hunt America[/url]. And although we certainly have AR15 hunting aficionados on the site there are by and large many more non hunters. I'd be very interested in your video, and when (and if it seems these days) I finally get home, I'll buy a copy.
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Quoted: I was scanning through the GD forum tonight. I was very dismayed at the number of inflammatory and locked threads. The bandwith and time from the mods to support a board where the average topic ranges from "why are blacks so good at basketball" to what color tie did al pechino have on in the shootout scene in "Heat". I suppose my question to everyone else...has the GD forum lost its usefulness? On a firearm board should such precious resources be wasted on rather trivial and sometimes unacceptable content? The GD forum seems to be a troll magnet some days...just sort of frustrating as a regular. What do y'all think...I suppose as a moocher (non-paying member) I really don't have much room to offer up suggestions. View Quote Sloth, have you ever attended a major shootiing event with fellow AR15.com members? Because GD exists, it allows members to express themselves and talk about anything and everything. It is the heart and soul of what builds the camraderie between members here, so that when we all get together at events like Bulletfest or Gunstock, we are already familiar with the person and can dispense with the formalities. It's like old home week when we all get together. You already somewhat know the people and are more relaxed around those that you consider friends. The hundreds of folks that attended Bulletfest this past weekend should be able to attest to this. |
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GD can be entertaining and/or irritating.
Luckily you can choose what you read. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I was scanning through the GD forum tonight. I was very dismayed at the number of inflammatory and locked threads. The bandwith and time from the mods to support a board where the average topic ranges from "why are blacks so good at basketball" to what color tie did al pechino have on in the shootout scene in "Heat". I suppose my question to everyone else...has the GD forum lost its usefulness? On a firearm board should such precious resources be wasted on rather trivial and sometimes unacceptable content? The GD forum seems to be a troll magnet some days...just sort of frustrating as a regular. What do y'all think...I suppose as a moocher (non-paying member) I really don't have much room to offer up suggestions. View Quote Sloth, have you ever attended a major shootiing event with fellow AR15.com members? Because GD exists, it allows members to express themselves and talk about anything and everything. It is the heart and soul of what builds the camraderie between members here, so that when we all get together at events like Bulletfest or Gunstock, we are already familiar with the person and can dispense with the formalities. It's like old home week when we all get together. You already somewhat know the people and are more relaxed around those that you consider friends. The hundreds of folks that attended Bulletfest this past weekend should be able to attest to this. View Quote Hear Hear BenD! Could you imagine how stiff I would have been if I didnt know you, Tweets and a good portion of the camping gang? GD is the one place where we dont HAVE to talk about shop (guns). There are alot of good gun threads, but it is not the driving force behind GD. |
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Outlived usefulness? NO. I can use threads like this to increase my post count.
edit cuz I cain't speel |
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Quoted: ... [b]cttc1[/b], I didn't see where any of that was directed towards you. That said, being a long time member here, ARFCOM is [i]not[/i] a hunting leaning board. If anything, must hunting trophy stories and photos get relatively low responses. If fact, if you used guns as the common denominator, ARFCOM (especially GD) is at the opposite end of the spectrum from, say, [url=http://www.huntamerica.com/]Hunt America[/url]. And although we certainly have AR15 hunting aficionados on the site there are by and large many more non hunters. I'd be very interested in your video, and when (and if it seems these days) I finally get home, I'll buy a copy. View Quote Most of the people who own weapons that I know, do NOT own them for any "Sporting" reasons, nor are they "sporting" weapons..... That includes me. |
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I thought that there was some really good points brought up here. I know no body is making me surf this forum, btu like was mentioed earlier, its addictive...I don't want to stop by...really, but its like a car accident on the freeway or the fat woman in a thong. You don't want to look, you know you'll regret looking, but damned if you can stop yourself.
It is an interesting place to visit, I just worry at times too many focus on the GD forum and both resources as well as expert opinions are lost int he other forums. Think about it, there is so much knolledge floating around here. The ARFCOM army is a wealth of firearm/reloading/tactical knolledge I'd hate to think that other important forums are being neglected so that we can figure out if we'd hit it or not. I think teh GD forum has its place, btu I'd hope others would make concious effort to visit other forums to offer advice and guidance. I know I'm going to try better myself. |
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GD outlived its usefulness?
Absolutely not. Bendover's opinion is spot-on. This is a fantastic place to hang out. It really is an internet lounge full of people who like chatting about everything, whether the subject matter is important or not. The internet is a wonderful tool! |
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Absolutely not!
Our local shooting club was founded off guys that met here. Thanks to GS we have over 78 active members now from 3 states and are growing every month. If not for GD and arfcom it would never have happened. mike |
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Useful or not is irrellevant. Not everything needs to be useful to be fun. Useful in the traditional sense can be found in the myriad of other forums on this site.
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GD is good for a number of reasons. My reasons are mainly for news, BSing with members about certain topics and beating back the trolls. Just because you think GD is useless, that doesn't mean that others do not benefit.
I'd also consider GD as indispensible. Think of all of the threads that would get deleted if they were started in other forums? GD also provides a forum to discuss anything and everything. Want to tell the world about the whore that left you for the other man? GD it! Want to tell the world about your newborn? GD it! Want to talk about Israel? GD it! Want to talk about heathen muslim maggots? GD it! (And IM me so I can jump in.) Want to talk about homosexuality? GD it! Want to talk about your homosexuality? Call your boyfriend and get back in the closet! Want to bitch about GD? GD it! |
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no way. GD rocks! where else would I have found out who made my tractor or get a pair of boots just for asking where I could buy them? what about johnny renos news pics....etc? Not to mention all the interesting discussions that go on here. I'm here for good, or as long as GB can keep it running.
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GD is cheap entertainment... who said it needed to be "useful"?
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Isn't it called "General" discussion? This is the only board I visit. I don't mind all the flaming, it makes it more interesting. How would you like every thread to go like this:
"Well chaps, I do believe the .223 round is a better choice than the 7.62x39" "I really do have to disagree my good friend, although I do see you have a point! Maybe we can discuss this over tea sometime?" "Very good then!" |
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You have most of the US Gov't to pick on, and you go after GD? [rolleyes]
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Quoted: How would you like every thread to go like this: "Well chaps, I do believe the .223 round is a better choice than the 7.62x39" "I really do have to disagree my good friend, although I do see you have a point! Maybe we can discuss this over tea sometime?" "Very good then!" View Quote putting an end to civil conversation was the whole point of the revolutionary war. being an asshole is your god given american duty. |
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No we like our GD just like our AKs ,sloppy loose and right on! Get in or get out,but we can never change it! Wahoo +1 Bob [:D]
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Quoted: putting an end to civil conversation was the whole point of the revolutionary war. being an asshole is your god given american duty. View Quote [^] That's worthy of being a sigline!! [beer] |
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Quoted: I know I'm going to try better myself. View Quote Change your username, you're a disgrace!!! [;)] |
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Quoted: You know what...I think you are 100% correct. [red]Bunch of kids in here at times.[/red] SGtar15 View Quote aint that the damn truth! |
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You know it is useless when some 40 year old dude asks" What gun for planet of the apes?". Can you say "NEVER GET LAID"
GG |
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