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Posted: 6/26/2003 12:30:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 12:34:48 PM EDT
[#1]
Well, do you think the company is going to take off?  If you honestly do, then you can recruit people with a clean conscience.  You may want to be more up front with them than the company was with you, but as long as you have a good faith belief that the company can succeed, and you're honest with the recruits, what's the problem?
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 12:35:05 PM EDT
[#2]
As long as you get paid, who gives a rat ass
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 12:45:51 PM EDT
[#3]
Is it a publicly traded company??
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 12:48:06 PM EDT
[#4]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 12:50:13 PM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 12:53:48 PM EDT
[#6]
Have an on the job injury and collect workers comp  [:D]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 12:57:49 PM EDT
[#7]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 1:09:25 PM EDT
[#8]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 1:23:07 PM EDT
[#9]
Does this job involve eventual jail time?
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 1:42:24 PM EDT
[#10]
I never thought I'd recommend this to ANYONE.

LT, you should pull a FFL. You'll still be just as broke and struggle to make neds meet but at least it's honorable and you will enjoy the guns you see other people buy.

Besides it's not like you got anything better going. [;)]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 1:48:39 PM EDT
[#11]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 2:06:06 PM EDT
[#12]
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Besides it's not like you got anything better going. [;)]
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Yeah seems my career as a trader has gone down the toilet since I moved to TX. I think I will start looking at selling cars again.
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I sure miss selling cars every now and then.  I've been teaching for 7 years now, but still get the urge to work on the car lot every now and then.  It was a lot of fun talking to so many people.  It was always a new challenge every day; convince someone that you weren't a crook, and that the deal was good.  I loved it.  Big surge of adreniline every time I put together a deal.  I finally made as much money teaching as I did my first year selling two years ago!

Go for it LT, nothing wrong with selling cars.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 2:38:13 PM EDT
[#13]
[b][red][size=6]MOVE BACK TO CALIFORNIA!!![/size=6][/red][/b]

Link Posted: 6/26/2003 2:42:34 PM EDT
[#14]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 2:45:00 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
As long as you get paid, who gives a rat ass
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Your lack of ethics is stunning.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 3:22:17 PM EDT
[#16]
Posted by Phil_In_Seattle:

Have you seen the movie Boiler Room?
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More like "Have you seen "Falling Down"?
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 3:40:38 PM EDT
[#17]

I have to agree with 82nd, be honest with the recruits and be prepared to give some of them a chanch. There are a lot of people looking for jobs out there, and this may be the break some of them need. Good luck... fullclip

Link Posted: 6/26/2003 4:28:40 PM EDT
[#18]
Karma is a bitch!
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 4:29:16 PM EDT
[#19]
Car salesman are the scum of the earth. The trash men a better people! Please dont start selling cars. You dont want to be "one of them".
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 4:59:57 PM EDT
[#20]
[s]IBTL!!!![/s]

Oh that's right, this isn't a botd thread......
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:03:46 PM EDT
[#21]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:17:48 PM EDT
[#22]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:19:47 PM EDT
[#23]
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Car salesman are the scum of the earth. The trash men a better people! Please dont start selling cars. You dont want to be "one of them".
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How could anyone that sells cars go to bed at night with a clear conscience. I rank that job right up there with being a serial rapist.
Not saying that I would never do it, a fella has got to make a living somehow.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:21:02 PM EDT
[#24]
Do you recognize any of these names in management:

Ken Lay
Jeffery Skilling
Dennis Kozlowski
Richard Scrushy

My advice to you will depend on your answer.

Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:25:27 PM EDT
[#25]
Sounds like a pyramid scam company.  Maybe. you should seek employment in a different field.

Anything that involves selling or marketing or commisions usually requires some form of lying scumbag to do it well.  If you want the big bucks, you better learn to be a piece of shit, just like the lying sack of crap that hired you.  He knew this and lied to you as well.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:28:38 PM EDT
[#26]
Better do your job, but be LOOKING BIG TIME.
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:33:23 PM EDT
[#27]
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Have an on the job injury and collect workers comp  [:D]
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[nuts] and [nuts]

Sgtar15
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 5:52:14 PM EDT
[#28]
Solve the 20mil dilemma yourself, go postal [:D]
Link Posted: 6/26/2003 6:31:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Ethics in "financial services" is an oxymoron.  At least as a car salesman you give them SOMETHING.  In the end, do what YOU are comfortable with.
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 7:03:32 AM EDT
[#30]
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 7:55:47 AM EDT
[#31]
I thought we were going to get more detailed info?
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 7:58:32 AM EDT
[#32]
Since you are commission based with a base salary and this "NEW" news will affect your production. I would ask to have my base pay bumped to compensate. If you cant get what you need to do your job. How can you produce what YOU promised.
Link Posted: 6/27/2003 8:29:48 AM EDT
[#33]
Hey LT -

I always like to read your threads about your work/ladies issues. Gives me some kind of vicarious drama. I kind of like it.

Seriously, no matter which way it goes...we're pulling for you.

Before I go, let me put on my MBA hat here for a sec...ethics? financial services? ha,ha,ha!

-Z
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 9:06:12 AM EDT
[#34]
Link Posted: 6/28/2003 12:10:28 PM EDT
[#35]
[b]LT[/b]:

I hope this doesn't come off sounding like patronizing, empty advice, but by all means try to make this at least a learning experience for your future career - whatever it is. My wife once worked for a very shady guy, and I know that in the long run, she's a morally richer woman for having endured a couple of years of this guy's shenanigans. If nothing else, this experience will teach you that the world is not as it seems - ever. I wish I had the magic words to write to make it all better, but in the real world, it just doesn't work that way. You are being tested right now, and I for one believe that you will ultimately pass the test. Who knows where your future lies? Texas, California, New York, Kansas? Could be anywhere, although if you really feel like your future leads you to Kansas, you might be worse off than I thought! [;D]

All you can do, I think, is to keep working as hard as you can to do [i]your[/i] part to get this company going. If it doesn't work out, you will be in a position to see a company come apart from the inside out - a position usually reserved for those who are instrumental in the destruction. You, however, are not part of the history of the failure (if that's how it pans out) of this company. You can, though, be part of the history of the success of the company if it goes that way. Either way, you will receive a lifetime's education in Business Management that would cost a fortune to obtain through an MBA program.

You are faced with a difficult situation right now, to be sure. For that, I do not envy you. However, you're young, smart and motivated, and armed with the further experience that you continue to gain every day, you [i]will[/i] be a valuable asset to whatever organization is eventually wise enough to add you to its staff.

Good luck, brother. Please keep us posted.
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