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Posted: 6/14/2003 1:34:53 AM EDT
I did three drug evaluations tonight. Just got back. Keep in mind all these people were driving.
The 1st one was so fucked up on carb cleaner that shit shit and pissed her pants while I was doing the eval and she never knew it. She could barely stand on her own. Edit to add this person was about 40 but her body was so ate up with inhallants she shook constantly like someone with parkinson's. The 2nd wasn't so bad, he just fell asleep at a stop light. His alcohol level was a .03. Big guy had 3 beers. His coordination was very bad and he time perception was way off. He was on marijuana. The 3rd was the worst. 18 yr old girl had a fender bender. (lucky it was not worse) During the eval I found out she has two children, 1-3yrs old and the other 1 1/2 yrs. She is a stripper and she is on probation for dealing crank. She is pretty messed up but keeps telling us she is clean and she just took a piss test today for her PO. When she tried to pee in the cup only blood came out. This is because she just had an abortion. She finally gets some out and guess what. Since she took her drug test today and probably won't take another (she thought) for a while she decided to go crazy. She had benzo, cocaine, meth, and THC on board. It is a sad world out there. At least parts of it. |
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it is very sad. i work at a hotel and we had to finaly stop renting rooms out to indians. they used to allways get paint all over the place. from huffing it for thoes that dont know
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I'm sorry you have to deal with that kind of crap. Sounds like a rough night.
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Indians for some reason do that more than other races. They like silver best and gold 2nd. They say it tastes better.
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Welcome to my world. We dont even bother with testing for Marijuana though. The labs fees are higher than the fines, the DA wont prosecute for under the influence of weed, and possession isnt a bookable offence.
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Quoted: Welcome to my world. We dont even bother with testing for Marijuana though. The labs fees are higher than the fines, the DA wont prosecute for under the influence of weed, and possession isnt a bookable offence. View Quote Where do you live ar15fan? |
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Some drunk/drugged out dude fell asleep at the wheel around the corner from his house. He thought he was parked, he was but he parked in the middle of the street. I thought someone killed him because all I heard was a loud idle and saw some dude slumped over the wheel.
Cops came and gave him a sobriety test. They took him away but were nice enough to park his car for him instead of calling for a tow. |
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Quoted: Welcome to my world. We dont even bother with testing for Marijuana though. The labs fees are higher than the fines, the DA wont prosecute for under the influence of weed, and possession isnt a bookable offence. View Quote This wasn't for possesion it was for DUI-D. Here we don't lab test for possesion of marijuana. We just field test and the court will take that along with the testimony of the officer. |
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Ever since I started selling auto insurance I've learned one important thing - NEVER NEVER drink/do drugs and drive! You cannot begin to imagine how much $$ you'll end up paying for insurance after getting a DUI. Also, never let you insurance coverage lapse, and never drive without insurance.
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Quoted: Quoted: Welcome to my world. We dont even bother with testing for Marijuana though. The labs fees are higher than the fines, the DA wont prosecute for under the influence of weed, and possession isnt a bookable offence. View Quote Where do you live ar15fan? View Quote Southern California |
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AR15fan, how do you feel about the decriminalization of mary jane out there?
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Quoted: The 3rd was the worst. 18 yr old girl had a fender bender. (lucky it was not worse) During the eval I found out she has two children, 1-3yrs old and the other 1 1/2 yrs. She is a stripper and she is on probation for dealing crank. She is pretty messed up but keeps telling us she is clean and she just took a piss test today for her PO. When she tried to pee in the cup only blood came out. This is because she just had an abortion. She finally gets some out and guess what. Since she took her drug test today and probably won't take another (she thought) for a while she decided to go crazy. She had benzo, cocaine, meth, and THC on board. View Quote Wheres the pic? Can I have her phone number?[naughty] |
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Quoted: AR15fan, how do you feel about the decriminalization of mary jane out there? View Quote The only big problems we have with marijuana are people driving while stoned, and people taking risks they otherwise would not take when the are not stoned. Teenagers dont make the greatest descisions to begin with, and marijuana (or alcohol) makes it worse. Unfortunately we have an entire generation of children here that think it's perfectly normal to spend every weekend stoned. |
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Seriously, she could have been kind of cute if she wasn't a 2 child, abortion having, drugged up hoe bag that at 18 is rode hard and put up wet. Blonde so she's not my type anyway.
Sorry, even if I had pics I couldn't post them. |
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Your job must suck sometimes. I only see these people in the hospital after they have been cleaned up a bit not at their finest like you have to.
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You must have the toughest job on the planet. How can people live like that? Stoned and not knowing one thing from another day in and day out. Can't they see what that crap is doing to them let alone to their family.
Crazy is more like it. |
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Quoted: Quoted: AR15fan, how do you feel about the decriminalization of mary jane out there? View Quote The only big problems we have with marijuana are people driving while stoned, and people taking risks they otherwise would not take when the are not stoned. Teenagers dont make the greatest descisions to begin with, and marijuana (or alcohol) makes it worse. Unfortunately we have an entire generation of children here that think it's perfectly normal to spend every weekend stoned. View Quote Let's be realistic, it's been several generations now- kids in the 70's and later, who are now parents and grandparents of the druggies. Drugs are such an ingrained element of American culture, that it is almost impossible to root them out now. That, coupled with lack of parental supervision, help make for a permanently troubled society. And our main solution seems to be, as a society, to forbid them, yet still consume them.... no wonder kids are messed up. And just how have anti-drug laws and the "War on Drugs" helped to solve this problem? Answer: not very much, other than costing us huge amounts of tax money. They created new criminals where there had been none before, and new criminal enterprises to meet the demand. Our courts and police are more numerous and more powerful than they were before. Anti-gun laws also got a big boost from the "War on Drugs"- how have they helped society? They sure haven't helped me. |
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And yet some people still think it's perfectly fine to smoke weed and do drugs. Hey what you do is up to you but as is evidenced by multiple examples your interaction with society is totaly altered frim a non-drug unduced stumor. I don't envy any cop, but especially the ones that deal with all the dregs of society.
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Carb cleaner...holy shit. That's a new one to me.
When I worked in juvie corrections in college, we had a kid whose preferred poison was Scotchgard...he'd spray a pillowcase until it was soaked and put it over his head. I used to tell him he didn't need to shower, he could just wipe down. |
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carb cleaner....check out the ingrediants for meth...it goes in your car, not your body...we have a bad meth problem here...in some way shape or form drugs are involved in about 85% of what I have to deal with...
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Quoted: Quoted: Welcome to my world. We dont even bother with testing for Marijuana though. The labs fees are higher than the fines, the DA wont prosecute for under the influence of weed, and possession isnt a bookable offence. View Quote This wasn't for possesion it was for DUI-D. Here we don't lab test for possesion of marijuana. We just field test and the court will take that along with the testimony of the officer. View Quote Question: Doing a UA for a DUI/D Marijauana in OK? I haven't chased taillights for a while and maybe I've been living a sheltered life in the office for the past few years, but I've never seen a successful prosecution for DUI/D based on a UA in OK because while there was THC26 in the driver's system, we couldn't yet positively determine if the driver was stoned when we pulled them over or if they had used the day before. Kind of like the old routine with DUI/Alcohol when you catch up to them after the fact, like at an accident site, and the driver says that they were sober at the time of the MVA and were so shook up that they went to the trunk of their car, took out a bottle and drank non-stop until you got there, thus leaving you with a good Public Intox charge but a solid defense on the DUI. That happened on one of my cases years ago. A guy seriously injured in a motorcycle accident and way past .08 told us that "a good samaritan who was drunk" stopped to check him out as he lay in the ditch next to his bike. This alleged "samaritan" supposedly gave him some whiskey for the pain and then took off when he saw us coming because it wasn't his accident and he was too drunk to deal with us. They wouldn't prosecute it because the rider had a viable defense that he got drunk AFTER the accident. No BS, I was pissed when they let him go and I couldn't believe it either. No flame, just asking. |
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Quoted: carb cleaner....check out the ingrediants for meth...it goes in your car, not your body...we have a bad meth problem here...in some way shape or form drugs are involved in about 85% of what I have to deal with... View Quote Okay, can one of you drug cops explain the process, in more or less general terms? It seems like everything you can buy at 7-11 is in meth! I know ammonia is a component, because we've had assholes stealing ammonia down at the farm. I seem to recall !lithium batteries! and ephedrine, too? Jesus, what a witches brew. |
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Now I remember just ONE of the many reasons why I decided against going into law enforcement.
It's because the sort of people that you've mentioned disgust me so deeply, and I consider them to be animals not worth saving, that there's at least one tiny neuron in my brain that's sending out this mad little message: "KILL THAT COCKROACH FOR THE GOOD OF SOCIETY." Heaven forbid that I should actually LISTEN to that one neuron's bad advice! I wouldn't want to be put into a position where I could become judge, jury, and executioner. Judge Dredd I don't want to be. I've seen as bad, though, in the year I spent with an ambulance company. CJ |
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"Let's be realistic, it's been several generations now- kids in the [b]18[/b]70's and later...
from the "War on Drugs"- how have they helped society?" Sing it with me. RICO, RICO, cha, cha cha! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Welcome to my world. We dont even bother with testing for Marijuana though. The labs fees are higher than the fines, the DA wont prosecute for under the influence of weed, and possession isnt a bookable offence. View Quote This wasn't for possesion it was for DUI-D. Here we don't lab test for possesion of marijuana. We just field test and the court will take that along with the testimony of the officer. View Quote Question: Doing a UA for a DUI/D Marijauana in OK? I haven't chased taillights for a while and maybe I've been living a sheltered life in the office for the past few years, but I've never seen a successful prosecution for DUI/D based on a UA in OK because while there was THC26 in the driver's system, we couldn't yet positively determine if the driver was stoned when we pulled them over or if they had used the day before. Kind of like the old routine with DUI/Alcohol when you catch up to them after the fact, like at an accident site, and the driver says that they were sober at the time of the MVA and were so shook up that they went to the trunk of their car, took out a bottle and drank non-stop until you got there, thus leaving you with a good Public Intox charge but a solid defense on the DUI. That happened on one of my cases years ago. A guy seriously injured in a motorcycle accident and way past .08 told us that "a good samaritan who was drunk" stopped to check him out as he lay in the ditch next to his bike. This alleged "samaritan" supposedly gave him some whiskey for the pain and then took off when he saw us coming because it wasn't his accident and he was too drunk to deal with us. They wouldn't prosecute it because the rider had a viable defense that he got drunk AFTER the accident. No BS, I was pissed when they let him go and I couldn't believe it either. No flame, just asking. View Quote DRE training, the UA is not going to be used in court it is just so when know what they had onboard quickly. They all had blood drawn that will go to OSBI for the prosecution. |
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Makes you wonder just what the hell can drive someone to do that shit to themselves......[V]
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Quoted: Quoted: AR15fan, how do you feel about the decriminalization of mary jane out there? View Quote The only big problems we have with marijuana are people driving while stoned, and people taking risks they otherwise would not take when the are not stoned. Teenagers dont make the greatest descisions to begin with, and marijuana (or alcohol) makes it worse. Unfortunately we have an entire generation of children here that think it's perfectly normal to spend every weekend stoned. View Quote It's probably because they are pothead babies. Alot of people smoked pot in my generation, now they have kids, with pierced lips and eyebrows, and they think economy cars are race cars. Luckily I did'nt have any offspring. Don't be a Bogart, pass the bong! |
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Quoted: "Let's be realistic, it's been several generations now- kids in the [b]18[/b]70's and later... from the "War on Drugs"- how have they helped society?" Sing it with me. RICO, RICO, cha, cha cha! View Quote |
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Quoted: Quoted: "Let's be realistic, it's been several generations now- kids in the [b]18[/b]70's and later... from the "War on Drugs"- how have they helped society?" Sing it with me. RICO, RICO, cha, cha cha! View Quote View Quote What the Hell are you talking about?[>:/] |
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I don't know,
according to some informal personal surveys I've heard about most folks that take drugs dont have a problem,marajuana is harmless and experimentation with all drugs just expands your horizon's..........Just like eating a Snickers or drinking a Pepsi![rolleyes] Carb Cleaner?? How hard up do you have to be to sniff that shit? |
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This kind of thing is the reason I decided not to become a cop after I got out of the USMC, and after telecom took a shiite on me. I would end up beating to death some scummer meth head who burned his kids up while he cooked up his trash in the kitchen.
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I agree jarhead I wouldn't have the patience.
I'd want to beat some sense into probably a couplea people a day.Especially dope addicts that whine but won't do anything to better their situation.These types are extremely frustrating,not to mention the wife beaters and the women that keep going back to them. I've got a couplea cousins that used to shoot meth.......sounds like a good time eh? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Let's be realistic, it's been several generations now- kids in the [b]18[/b]70's and later... from the "War on Drugs"- how have they helped society?" Sing it with me. RICO, RICO, cha, cha cha! View Quote View Quote What the Hell are you talking about?[>:/] View Quote |
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I must be getting old and out of the loop for drug lingo. What the hell is benzo?
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Quoted: ....Sorry for being incoherent.....After 17 yrs of Catholic school education years ago BS+BA, yes 17! I'm a bit "off" on the "comunication" level maybe. I was exposed to so many HIPOCRITES(sp) that life(adamngoodteacher) I should be sleeping w/cynick*[;)] XCOP RANT here..... after 10/15 you'll know what I'm implying, maybe if you pull over a few influential people in town on same violation as joeshmo. Some people are just "connected" to skate underany circunstance.....who you know and social place (aswellas$$$COUNT), kinda like federal quotas accepting a person because of their race, rather than SMARTS! View Quote Let this be a lesson to you, kids. Don't smoke crack and post! [;D] HSimpson: I took "benzo" to mean benzedrine...speed. Just a guess, though. |
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Quoted: I must be getting old and out of the loop for drug lingo. What the hell is benzo? View Quote It is short for benzodiazepines. They are minor tranquilizers. They are in the depressant class. Some familiar ones are valium, Rohypnol and Serepax. |
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Quoted: Guys like "A.Einstien,(brilliant) Da vinci= michaelangelo(mostartist)=(weed), to say the least. I'd bet B.Gates never smoked weed-[whacko] Granted DRUGS= the third BIGGEST industry WORLDWIDE. "come on out of the confessional" my son, I'd like to try that w/you to bsee if it "feels" like a sin.[:|]. View Quote Please, don't get high and post, for the love of God! |
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Thanks. I'm remembering rohypnol as the date rape drug. Wonder why a girl so obviously easy thinks she needs that? Seems obvious enough she's got some serious issues. Lack of father figure maybe? Too bad she's dragging all these kids into her sorry life.
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Quoted: Thanks. I'm remembering rohypnol as the date rape drug. Wonder why a girl so obviously easy thinks she needs that? Seems obvious enough she's got some serious issues. Lack of father figure maybe? Too bad she's dragging all these kids into her sorry life. View Quote Roofies get used as a "date rape" drug, but that isn't as common as their normal use. many kids buy them at a couple bucks a pill and take one at the begiinning of an evening of partying because it only takes them a few drinks after on Rohypnol to get a pretty good and long-lasting drunk on. It is very common in Texas, mainly because they get purchased legally in Mexico and then smuggled into the States and are available so cheap. |
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I don't know if that is what she was on, I think it was probably valium because she told me her mom had some. I was just giving you some common types. She kept swearing up and down the only thing she had taken all day was ibuprofan.
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Modern society provides no other way to weed out the weak. We have no natural predators and we live in relative peace. So, its facinating that a certain subset of people have developed a way to eliminate themselves from the planet. It's not perfect Darwinism though, because too many times, they breed before they die, dragging out the process for generations. I have to agree with the Libertarians on this one. Make drugs legal- the stronger, the better. After a few generations, the problem will subside. We need to stop surrendering our freedom to the "war on drugs"
I feel for all you guys who work in that world- it must be terribly depressing. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "Let's be realistic, it's been several generations now- kids in the [b]18[/b]70's and later... from the "War on Drugs"- how have they helped society?" Sing it with me. RICO, RICO, cha, cha cha! View Quote View Quote What the Hell are you talking about?[>:/] View Quote View Quote Ok is this English? What the fuck are you talking about? |
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Quoted: It seems like everything you can buy at 7-11 is in meth! I know ammonia is a component, because we've had assholes stealing ammonia down at the farm. I seem to recall !lithium batteries! and ephedrine, too? Jesus, what a witches brew. View Quote It gets even better Over-the-counter cold and asthma medications containing ephedrine or pseudoephedrine, red phosphorous, iodine, hydrochloric acid, drain cleaner, battery acid, lye, lantern fuel, and antifreeze are among the ingredients most commonly used. Tasty sounding stuff eh? |
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I have two friends, brothers, who work on different LE Agencies in rural Oklahoma. One is full time drug cases, the other is SWAT in addition to his patrol duties. SWAT does all of the drug lab raids in the AO. There is a huge meth problem where they are (near I-40). I was shocked.
One was almost killed by a stoned driver who crossed the center line and hit him. The druggie died. She was on pot. F the druggies. |
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I dont mean to hijack here but do any of the law enforcement officers believe that steroids should illegal? I have done some research on them for school and I dont think they should be in the same class as the rest of these drugs or illegal at all. The reason I ask is because it is apparent that some officers use, Mr. Olympia for example.
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Quoted: Quoted: I must be getting old and out of the loop for drug lingo. What the hell is benzo? View Quote It is short for benzodiazepines. They are minor tranquilizers. They are in the depressant class. Some familiar ones are valium, Rohypnol and Serepax. View Quote Very popular with stimulant abusers. They need something to bring them down enough to sleep. Unfortunately they are addictive and have some pretty horrible side effects when abused. Just about every Tweeker I arrest is also abusing some tranquilizers along with some mild anti-depressant like Prozac, Paxil, Ect. |
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Want to know what we catch kids with? Huffing whatever they use for air conditioning refigerant these days. (can't remember the name) They valve it right out of the operating system into a plastic bag and inhale. Gold or silver paint is popular, (Look up their nose to identify this) as well as MEK and Acetone. They soak a rag, put it in a bag, and hold it over their face.
As for pills, go into any drugstore and try and buy over the counter asthma, motion sickness, or diet medication. I tried to buy Dramimine for a fishing trip this week and the store would only sell me a single packet of 10 tablets. We also find them taking Viagra. Sometimes to counteract the effects of Ecstacy, but all by itself as well. What on earth would a 17 yr old boy need Viagra for? Why do the girls take it? |
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