Hawkeye, I didn't take it that way. I knew what you meant. Unfortunately, where many businesses (industrial, which is our primary base) are in areas that go totally to hell when the sun goes down. I have even spent the night sleeping on Jerome Ave, in the Bronx. What is hard to believe is that there are many truck stops (actually travel plazas, truckstops don't exist any more. Thank you Greyhound and winnebago) that are much more dangerous than that. I constantly hear of a driver getting robbed as he was walking back to his truck from eating or showering or whatever. In the area that I drive now (roughly 650 mile radius of Nashville with a few little fingers going a bit farther) the worst places are West Memphis and Atlanta. I once had to stop at the Pilot in Atlanta and couldn't even get backed in to a parking space for all the ho's (we call them lot lizards or sleeper leapers among the more affectionate terms) running up to the truck. The TA here in Nashville (the one downtown) has a fence all the way around and roving security. That does no good because the hookers climb the fence and give kickbacks to the bozocops. In Knoxville, the rates have doubled because the cops (real cops, not rent a cops) are taking kickbacks. I have even observed it myself. I was sitting at a TA and the hangout was across the street at an abandoned restaurant. A cop pulls in, the 3 hookers go climb in his back seat and 5 minutes later hop back into their pickup waiting for the next customer. This is why I usually try to avoid the truckstops. I get bothered less sitting parked in a bad neighborhood at a closed business where I will deliver/pickup in the morning than at the truckstop. Oh yeah, Little Rock, on the east side, just outside the bypass, don't plan on getting any sleep there. Indianapolis bypass, exit 4, also bad. I could tell you bad places all day long, but can list the safe/clean places on one hand.