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Posted: 5/31/2003 10:50:33 PM EDT
I never would have watched it if I knew they were gonna kill Data.

From now on, I'm gonna read the spoilers. I'd rather hear about it than see it.

That's so fucked up.
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 10:51:36 PM EDT
[#1]
They left themselfes an out. The stupid droid!
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 10:52:16 PM EDT
[#2]
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 10:58:18 PM EDT
[#3]
Yeah, I see the potential for "sequel Data's".

But damn! They could kill all them fuckers, I don't care! They shouldn't have goddamn killed Data!

He was about the only conservative on the whole damned show!

Oh shit. That's why they killed him.
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 11:08:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 11:09:43 PM EDT
[#5]
I have no doubt we'll get the real Data back if they make a new movie.  They'll find a way to unlock the crap he downloaded into the dumb one, and poof it will be Data again.  Of course that is assuming they make another one, I'm not sure this one made them enough money.

I was sure hoping for some fleet battle action when they started heading toward the fleet. Now that would have rocked.  The oh-to-short fleet battle in First Contact was sweet.  They need to basically make a TNG movie that is all war, Federation is about to fall, etc.  Oh boy...
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 11:25:30 PM EDT
[#6]
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Quoted:
Yeah, I see the potential for "sequel Data's".

But damn! They could kill all them fuckers, I don't care! They shouldn't have goddamn killed Data!

He was about the only conservative on the whole damned show!

Oh shit. That's why they killed him.
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Curious, how do you know that he is conservative? Are you talking about the charachter he plays or that Brent Spiner himself is conservative. (I know that the charachter data advocates self defense).
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I'm talking about the character. He was constantly fighting for his rights.

Remember when he "made" a kid? Remember when they said he had to give her up, because the state thought they could take better care of her?

Remember when some guy stepped in to say that the state isn't always right, and I'll put my ass on the line because I'm doing what's right?  

Link Posted: 5/31/2003 11:32:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I have no doubt we'll get the real Data back if they make a new movie.  They'll find a way to unlock the crap he downloaded into the dumb one, and poof it will be Data again.  Of course that is assuming they make another one, I'm not sure this one made them enough money.

I was sure hoping for some fleet battle action when they started heading toward the fleet. Now that would have rocked.  The oh-to-short fleet battle in First Contact was sweet.  They need to basically make a TNG movie that is all war, Federation is about to fall, etc.  Oh boy...
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Look on Kazaa for some of the later DS9 episodes. It's all out war (the Dominion War) with huge fleet battles, I can't remember the names of the episodes but you should be able to find it online pretty easily.

BTW, What about Worf? he seemed pretty conservative, at least, he was when he didn't listen to the damned humans too much [:D]
Link Posted: 5/31/2003 11:34:30 PM EDT
[#8]
Hell, I wouldn't have seen it myself if I knew it was going to suck as bad as it did.  I think it was the worst Star Trek movie to date with possible exception for Star Trek V.  After killing Data, I kinda wished they had killed the rest of the crew too.

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Link Posted: 5/31/2003 11:43:20 PM EDT
[#9]
Yeah, it sucked that they killed Data. It was a good way to go though.

The reason I heard that they did it was because Data is getting old(and you can tell in that movie- imagine in the future- and since he was a android, and androids don't age, it wouldn't look right. That's what I heard anyway.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 7:13:33 AM EDT
[#10]
How do you know that Data was killed?

He merely was passing through a ship that happened to explode a few seconds after we saw him on it.

If Spock could be brought back from the dead...

[:)]
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 8:37:04 AM EDT
[#11]
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Yeah, it sucked that they killed Data. It was a good way to go though.

The reason I heard that they did it was because Data is getting old(and you can tell in that movie- imagine in the future- and since he was a android, and androids don't age, it wouldn't look right. That's what I heard anyway.
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data has a dreaming program, discovered after he was shot by some silly device in which he stood on the very apparnt buisness end of... which also happened to be aimed DIRECTLY at the warpcore... ahh what brilliant senior staff they have! oh and it was doc bashir that brought the thing aboard and hooked it up in eng without auth.. he shoulda been nailed for that.

so who is to say data doesnt have a ageing program?
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 12:41:08 PM EDT
[#12]
That show STILL exists?!  Kill it already.  It died with Shatner's hair.
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 12:56:38 PM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 1:05:32 PM EDT
[#14]
Where the hell have you been?

Bilster
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 1:50:56 PM EDT
[#15]
Somewhere other than sitting in front of a screen watching a rehash of a rehash of a rehash of a rehash?
Link Posted: 6/1/2003 4:35:05 PM EDT
[#16]
Now they need to kill the rest of those passive A-holes.[ROFL2]

Phasers on full.[headbang]
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 2:29:59 AM EDT
[#17]
They've milked the concept for all its worth.

"Enterprise" has been a huge dissapointment for me.  I wish they'd create a weeklong miniseries that concludes the whole Trek franchise.

It could start with an incident taking place in Captain Archer's time, carry over to Kirk, Spock, and company, then conclude with the Borg kicking the Alfa quadrant's ass taking Picard, Cisco, and Janeway with it.

Throw in some Klingons for glorious battle seens, and Romulans for good old fashioned tactics.  Make it HUGE!  Go out with an ending that will floor everyone!

Link Posted: 6/2/2003 6:00:17 AM EDT
[#18]
I gave up on the Trek movies long ago.  I think the writers "dumb it down" too much, and throw series continuity out the window.  By no means is th normal series "too cerebral" for a mainstream audience, and I don't think people go to see Trek films if they didn't already like Trek.
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 6:16:26 AM EDT
[#19]
They killed Data!  You bastards!
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 6:21:20 AM EDT
[#20]
Nerds...
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 6:25:47 AM EDT
[#21]
That also bothers me.  USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D would have been lost countless times without data! How do they repay him?  They kill him off.

bastards!
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 11:38:42 AM EDT
[#22]
WHAT!!!???
Aw no, I've not seen it yet.
When Tasha Yar died it was black underpants for a week.
[:K]
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 11:55:47 AM EDT
[#23]
What, you don't like retard-data?
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 12:25:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Troi - "How's your art project coming along Data?"

Data - "It is an access console.  It is accurate to .02 percent."

Data rocks!
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 2:19:22 PM EDT
[#25]
Troi - How does that make you feel?
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 2:47:22 PM EDT
[#26]
"Star Trek - Data Rebooted"


You heard it here first.

TRG
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 2:48:50 PM EDT
[#27]
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 3:20:34 PM EDT
[#28]
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Troi - How does that make you feel?
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"horny, Troi, you make me feel horny. There, you made me say it. Are you happy now?"[:P]
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 3:55:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Here is my take on Star Trek.

I wish they would make a series based on a lone deap space freighter.  This guy spends so much time alone, he has long hair, a scruffy beard, and bad teeth.  He's thin.  He wears glasses.  He chain smokes from an ancient stash of Pell Mells unfiltered.  He drinks at least a six pack of Genesee Cream Ale a day (Jenny Screamers).  When he is not drinking, and even when he does, he looks at porn.  The good stuff from the 1970's, 80's, and 90's.  You might say he is addicted to cheep beer, cigarettes, and porn.  He swears to himself constantly.  Usually a lot of f*** this and f*** that followed by "man."  He also has other bad habits when he can get it.  There are roaches in all his ash trays as well as on the floor.  He is also a persistant and chronic mastrabator.  The star frieghter is a complete mess, inside and out.  It needs serious maintenance most of time.  Half of every thing is down.

One day, when this guy is travelling near the Delta Quad, he is over taken by the Borg.

"WE ARE THE BORG.  YOUR UNIQUENESS WILL BE ADDED TO THE COLLECTIVE.  LOWER YOUR SHIELDS AND SURRENDER.  RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."

"Yeah yeah, what the f*** man.  I'm unarmed so f*** you man!"

"RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."

"You guys are assholes.  Just f***ing come on over and take whatever the f*** what you want man.  Just f***ing let me finsh my f***ing beer and f***ing cigarettes man."

"YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED."

"Yeah, bite me.  F***ing asshole machine f***s."

They come onboard and start the assimilation process.

"HEY!  F*** YOU MAN!  Watch it with those f***ing pointy things man!"

They inject the nanoprobs into his neck.

"Wow man!  What a f***ing rush!"

Months later:

"What is it Number One?"
"Borg sir.  Long range scanners just found them."
"What is there heading?"
"Their current course brings them right to us."
"They are picking up speed."
"They want a confrontation?  We'll give them one!  Red Alert!  Battle Stations!  Arm all phazer banks and quantum topedo bays.  Maximum spread!"
"Aye aye!  Captain!"
"Sir, they are hailing us.  They have a visual."
"Hmmmm... that's unusual.  Put them on."

A visual is displayed showing a borg on screan.  He is unshaven, baggy eyed, and smoking a cigarette.  Behind him one can see the absolute mess the ship is.  Garbage on the floor, lots of cigarrete butts, beer bottles, magezines, and other assorted junk.  It appears some of the borg behind the speaker are watching old porno avi's on a consol.  One appears to be jibbling his johnson.  Another appears to be rolling a blunt.

"Yeah...uhhh...yeah man.  WE ARE THE BORG. LOWER YOUR SHIELDS AND SURRENDER YOUR BEER, CIGARETTES, AND PORN."
"Ummm...you forgot to say, resistance is futile, man."
"F*** YOU MAN!  JUST F*** YOU!  WHO IS IN CHARGE HERE?"
"Man, I'm Just tryin' to help, you f***ing asshole!"
"ED, JUST SHUT THE F*** UP MAN.  JUST SHUT THE F*** UP!  I AM TIRED OF YOUR F***ING BULLS***!"
"Man, you don't have to so f***ing hostile man.  Prick!"

It goes down hill from here.

Bilster

Link Posted: 6/2/2003 4:16:31 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Here is my take on Star Trek.

I wish they would make a series based on a lone deap space freighter.  This guy spends so much time alone, he has long hair, a scruffy beard, and bad teeth.  He's thin.  He wears glasses.  He chain smokes from an ancient stash of Pell Mells unfiltered.  He drinks at least a six pack of Genesee Cream Ale a day (Jenny Screamers).  When he is not drinking, and even when he does, he looks at porn.  The good stuff from the 1970's, 80's, and 90's.  You might say he is addicted to cheep beer, cigarettes, and porn.  He swears to himself constantly.  Usually a lot of f*** this and f*** that followed by "man."  He also has other bad habits when he can get it.  There are roaches in all his ash trays as well as on the floor.  He is also a persistant and chronic mastrabator.  The star frieghter is a complete mess, inside and out.  It needs serious maintenance most of time.  Half of every thing is down.

One day, when this guy is travelling near the Delta Quad, he is over taken by the Borg.

"WE ARE THE BORG.  YOUR UNIQUENESS WILL BE ADDED TO THE COLLECTIVE.  LOWER YOUR SHIELDS AND SURRENDER.  RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."

"Yeah yeah, what the f*** man.  I'm unarmed so f*** you man!"

"RESISTANCE IS FUTILE."

"You guys are assholes.  Just f***ing come on over and take whatever the f*** what you want man.  Just f***ing let me finsh my f***ing beer and f***ing cigarettes man."

"YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED."

"Yeah, bite me.  F***ing asshole machine f***s."

They come onboard and start the assimilation process.

"HEY!  F*** YOU MAN!  Watch it with those f***ing pointy things man!"

They inject the nanoprobs into his neck.

"Wow man!  What a f***ing rush!"

Months later:

"What is it Number One?"
"Borg sir.  Long range scanners just found them."
"What is there heading?"
"Their current course brings them right to us."
"They are picking up speed."
"They want a confrontation?  We'll give them one!  Red Alert!  Battle Stations!  Arm all phazer banks and quantum topedo bays.  Maximum spread!"
"Aye aye!  Captain!"
"Sir, they are hailing us.  They have a visual."
"Hmmmm... that's unusual.  Put them on."

A visual is displayed showing a borg on screan.  He is unshaven, baggy eyed, and smoking a cigarette.  Behind him one can see the absolute mess the ship is.  Garbage on the floor, lots of cigarrete butts, beer bottles, magezines, and other assorted junk.  It appears some of the borg behind the speaker are watching old porno avi's on a consol.  One appears to be jibbling his johnson.  Another appears to be rolling a blunt.

"Yeah...uhhh...yeah man.  WE ARE THE BORG. LOWER YOUR SHIELDS AND SURRENDER YOUR BEER, CIGARETTES, AND PORN."
"Ummm...you forgot to say, resistance is futile, man."
"F*** YOU MAN!  JUST F*** YOU!  WHO IS IN CHARGE HERE?"
"Man, I'm Just tryin' to help, you f***ing asshole!"
"ED, JUST SHUT THE F*** UP MAN.  JUST SHUT THE F*** UP!  I AM TIRED OF YOUR F***ING BULLS***!"
"Man, you don't have to so f***ing hostile man.  Prick!"

It goes down hill from here.

Bilster

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Still wiping away tears!

TRG
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